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LovelyAries86
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posted January 19, 2014 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AlexDern:

It's better to look at the number of aspects, houses, signs, and planets in whole.


I have the most planets in the Third House - Mars, Uranus, Neptune.

I have a Grand Trine in Water, all three in the Fire Houses.

I have the most aspects to my Moon - six.

So I guess all of those factors are very significant. What's your take on these?

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posted January 19, 2014 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by chargeomentum:
Except the fact that most of the people don't like to be called "followers", "someone with no personallity of their own", or w/e it is.


I most certainly am not a follower. Can I be a Team Player? Of course, I'm a fair person. But I can also be a great leader! I do & say what I feel...it's never dictated by someone else.


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Originally posted by IMoppedtheFloor:
This is inherently nonsensical.

Everybody has an identity or there would be on "sun" in their natal chart.

Come again. *rimshot; chucks mic at your fat head*


Love it or hate it - you surely have an Identity lol.

As do I.

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posted January 19, 2014 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrofan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it depends on the rest of the chart
e.g. which house is ruled by Leo in your chart
I don't have this placement
I have Leo sun in the 10th and SN in 7th

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posted January 19, 2014 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by astrofan:
it depends on the rest of the chart
e.g. which house is ruled by Leo in your chart



I have zero planets in the 11th. But LEO rules that House.

What does this mean?

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posted January 19, 2014 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrofan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is just how I see it. not necessarily the right description. I think you like to do things your way and for a time this might have proved the best way, but eventually you will learn how to work with other people, combine efforts (NN 7th house). So instead of relying on yourself, or allowing other people rely on you, you will work with them on equal footing, a partnership. At heart you care about what other people think or feel about you, your actions, words. Perhaps care too much that you feel the need to defend your image, your actions/words. If you can accept that no one human is free of flaws, you will attract more cooperation and less aggression from others (the 7th house also rules rivals, competitors). This is important because over the course of your life, you will often be required to put aside personal interests/personal agenda, and focus on a much larger goal, perhaps humanitarian cause.

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posted January 19, 2014 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by astrofan:
This is just how I see it. not necessarily the right description. I think you like to do things your way and for a time this might have proved the best way, but eventually you will learn how to work with other people, combine efforts (NN 7th house). So instead of relying on yourself, or allowing other people rely on you, you will work with them on equal footing, a partnership. At heart you care about what other people think or feel about you, your actions, words. Perhaps care too much that you feel the need to defend your image, your actions/words. If you can accept that no one human is free of flaws, you will attract more cooperation and less aggression from others (the 7th house also rules rivals, competitors). This is important because over the course of your life, you will often be required to put aside personal interests/personal agenda, and focus on a much larger goal, perhaps humanitarian cause.


For me, the part about flaws & attracting aggression is false. I openly admit my flaws & I encourage others to be open enough to do the same - knowing each other for who we REALLY are. I loathe pretension!

I do agree though, that I'm here on this earth to build strong partnerships. To be a catalyst for change & growth in others, to create balance for them...and for myself.

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posted January 19, 2014 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlexDern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lovelyaries...

With a third house having mars, Neptune, and Uranus in it I would guess that your day to day affairs are commingled with your initiative and drive, or focus, neptunian ideals, and uranian ideals.

For example you may join a sorority or a group or have sibling like associations, or neighbors, or short journeys which are either innovative or rebellious, and or confusing, illusion, or in art, film, cinema, or the medical fields, such as doctor or nurse. Frequently the healing professions are on a continuum with the arts.

The third house is siblings, short travels, and neighbors...I call this the house of the popular person. With a lot of planets here you could end up having a lot of focus on those in your immediate surroundings, or objects even.

My brother has many planets here and he is frequently the one we go to but he also likes to spend time alone. Inevitably, he can't help but make new friends.

With a water house trine, I would guess that you were born in this life with gifts from before which involve something along the lines of being a natural psychologist. You under stand how emotions work, are sustained, change, and initiated...the three water houses, and how this effects action or interfaces with fire - passion and intuition.

With a north node in the seventh house I would guess that your task in this life is going to have to deal with partnerships and associations, not necessarily following, but situations that involve equal exchanges, where both parties benefit.

You may find that you are often abandoned either for being too selfish or too generous.

With many aspects to your moon, I would guess that you have great emotional strength. If they are squares you will harness this strength over the course of your life, if they are oppositions, they will be a sort of balancing act which pulls you forward, and if they are trines, natural talents whgich you may sleep on.

The sex-tiles are opportunities such as can be recognized when issues of quitting or changing tracks present themselves....they present difficult decisions which may or may not change your life, or simply help you get there.

The moon rules many things but it is difficult to say for sure without at-least a chart.

Uranus in the third house could mean rebellious siblings, I would guess one of your siblings is an innovator, the other an artist, or healer of some sort, and if you have no siblings, you may yourself manifest these qualities in your immediate presence.

I take it you may even have some ambitions in writing.

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posted January 19, 2014 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlexDern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You may also seek freedom from such groups, and be a total loner who spends their time aligning or finding people with similar ideals.

Uranus does not like restriction, and neptune may cause you to befriend seedy types that are either prone to drugs or day dreaming instead of doing...

Positively, it refines your character and makes you more selective.

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posted January 19, 2014 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"You may find that you are often abandoned either for being too selfish or too generous."

That sounds horrible. But to an extent, it's true. I always feel like I should strike the perfect BALANCE w/ people. Most of the time, it all comes pretty natural to me. But occasionally...things can get out of whack. I try my best to be fair & kind to people, while also being fair to myself and what I need.

Alex thank you for your in-depth response! I'll reply to the rest shortly.

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posted January 20, 2014 03:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, I'm back.

As for my Moon, it's all very diverse! I have 2 trines, 2 oppositions, 1 square & 1 conjunction. I'm literally *BOTH* tough & tender...which I actually do love that about myself. I'm definitely in tune w/ my emotions - in a healthy way. I sometimes analyze my feelings but I never *deny* them. I've been told since I was a child that I was a "Mini Oprah" so I've always played the role of psychologist or whatever.

My siblings are indeed a bit quirky. So Uranus is present LOL. I don't mind quirky though - it's the "detachment" quality that I do not care for w/ Aquarius in general.

I do like writing. But just short projects, and it must be on things that I'm passionate about. It cannot feel like 'work' it must feel natural for me.

I like having my Sun in the 7th. As CatMote stated earlier...it's truly the perfect balance for Aries. I do realize it may be difficult for some people to be *both* a Leader & a Team Player...but honey, I'm actually damn good at it.

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posted January 21, 2014 06:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey LA86

We have many similar placements. I also have Sun, NN and Jupiter in 7th.

Which decan your Aries Sun is in? (degree of the sun)

Take care

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posted January 21, 2014 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
Hey LA86

We have many similar placements. I also have Sun, NN and Jupiter in 7th.

Which decan your Aries Sun is in? (degree of the sun)

Take care


I don't know too much about decans but this is what I found:

"3rd Decan » 10th - 20th April: Influenced by Jupiter, you're a true individualist. Aries dynamism combines with a strong moral sense: you might be a preacher, politician, healer, hell raiser or saint. You stir others profoundly. Lovers must learn to share you with your other worldly passions."

I do agree with this! My Sun is at 25 degrees Aries. What is your decan?

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posted January 21, 2014 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrofan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
For me, the part about flaws & attracting aggression is false. I openly admit my flaws & I encourage others to be open enough to do the same - knowing each other for who we REALLY are. I loathe pretension!

I do agree though, that I'm here on this earth to build strong partnerships. To be a catalyst for change & growth in others, to create balance for them...and for myself.


that's just based on your Sun and NN 1st house with Leo 11th house. your whole chart obviously has to be taken into consideration. you can post your chart in Personal Reading and have it read in its entirety if interested.

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posted January 21, 2014 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Second Decan.

I find the Decan description suits me better than the plain Sun sign description.

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posted January 22, 2014 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by astrofan:
that's just based on your Sun and NN 1st house with Leo 11th house. your whole chart obviously has to be taken into consideration. you can post your chart in Personal Reading and have it read in its entirety if interested.


Oh you'll read my whole chart?!

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posted January 22, 2014 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
Second Decan.

I find the Decan description suits me better than the plain Sun sign description.


After looking at mine, I would have to agree with you! I feel my Moon strongly also.

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posted March 09, 2019 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leo-Cancer98     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
Just curious. Do you relate more to your Sun or your Moon?


Great question, I'm curious to know too.

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posted September 01, 2020 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leo-Cancer98     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I see all those people as very sociable and other oriented as opposed to being focused on self. Seventh house sun is a good placement for anyone who seeks fame or influence because it's a lead-up to the tenth house which indicates the public life and if someone is suited for it. Seventh house people can handle a busy social life while someone with sun in first house, for instance, might find it uncomfortable. First house is more loner type while seventh and tenth are the ones who seek out others, want to influence or be with them. That's the difference between ascendant and descendant. You only have to look at the difference between the sign Aries and Libra that correlate with these cardinal points. Aries is the self while Libra is others. So, the seventh house sun will focus on others, the first house one, on themselves.

Seventh house suns are not followers as much as they are people persons. You hear people describe certain others it just means they are skilled at handling others and really enjoy being with them, hate being alone. That's the seventh house sun. They are not here to be loners and if they find themselves in that situation, chances are they are not happy or comfortable, just like the first house sun might feel out of sorts when they have to deal with others.


Haha, true!

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posted December 18, 2022 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a friend with sun in 7th i think ones sense of self is connected to idea of partnerships , marrige etc - she loves being in relationships AND even on job she works she has PERTNERS shes a policewoman so shes always PARTNERED up lol its her identity

My sun is in 11 and i think people recognize me through my friendships and social life, maybe social media and humanitarian actions

People with sun in 1st would probably be noticable in a way they dress or act

10th suns are somhow always associated with their carrer, accomplishments OR father

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posted December 19, 2022 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hemilla:
I have a friend with sun in 7th i think ones sense of self is connected to idea of partnerships , marrige etc - she loves being in relationships AND even on job she works she has PERTNERS shes a policewoman so shes always PARTNERED up lol its her identity

My sun is in 11 and i think people recognize me through my friendships and social life, maybe social media and humanitarian actions

People with sun in 1st would probably be noticable in a way they dress or act

10th suns are somhow always associated with their carrer, accomplishments OR father


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posted December 19, 2022 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hemilla:
I have a friend with sun in 7th i think ones sense of self is connected to idea of partnerships , marriage etc - she loves being in relationships AND even on job she works she has PERTNERS shes a policewoman so shes always PARTNERED up lol its her identity

My sun is in 11 and i think people recognize me through my friendships and social life, maybe social media and humanitarian actions

People with sun in 1st would probably be noticable in a way they dress or act

10th suns are somhow always associated with their carrer, accomplishments OR father


Yes. ...

With Sun in 7th, I have often noticed that life circumstances occur or result in the native being in the position of being "the diplomat" or play the referee for two opposing/adversarial sides.

Maybe they come from divorced Mom/Dad? Are themselves divorced / sharing custody? Or have to deal with the spouses ex/family as an arbitrator?

I recall reading how Tom Brady (on the cusp of his break-up) got his ex pregnant. And how Giselle had to learn to "merge" the child from the relationship, with the children from their current marriage.

I thought "She must have some Libra/7th house placements". And sure enough, she has Mars/Plu in Libra and Sun Cancer in 7th(Asc Cap).

With Sun in 11th, i often find 2 types who fall under here.

The 1st types are where the natives have their identity or life experience tied up to a collective group (11th) or cause that reflects their life experiences. And then the latter (through its similarity with their life)becomes the reference point to self identity.

So they may catch feelings about their identity being attacked, when that reference group/cause is attacked or threatened. And many may become activist or "representatives" for that group/ cause so that that they can defend against those threats/attacks as if they are defending themselves.

Typically, it could be that their life will bring them into early childhood situations where they felt that they were treated unfairly? That there was nobody to stand up for them? That they felt their needs alienated /ignored /oppressed or misunderstood? Or they were the bullied minority in some fashion?

So these experiences make them extremely sensitized and empathic to the plights of minority groups/causes(11th) that share similarities with their life experience. And then they merge their sense of identity (Sun) on to these groups/causes- seeing their liberation as an answer to their own liberation. i.e "they(11th) are being oppressed, just like I(Sun) was/am oppressed. So if i set them free/make things right for them. Then all will be right and well with me" etc.

I call the above "The Activist".

An example of these types is Malala Yousafzai. Asc in Virgo, Sun in Cancer.

The 2nd types are the "social influencers" who have an incredible impact on the group they are a part of. They may have the ability to influence the "group think " through getting the group to follow their lead or gain popularity via their associated group or clique.

For these people, who they associate with in terms of friends/contacts matters. Because such people can elevate or degenerate their status or public persona-thus affecting their social influence.

There is an overall preoccupation with friendships(atleast when it comes to managing powerful contacts) and this could mean honouring invites or gatherings that further cement these bonds etc.

I call these the "social capitalists".

An example if this is Kim Kardashian. Asc in Sag, Sun in Lib

Donald Trump is another. Asc in Leo, Sun in Gemini.

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posted December 19, 2022 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

With Sun in 7th, I have often noticed that life circumstances occur or result in the native being in the position of being "the diplomat" or in play the referee for two opposing/adversarial sides.


Yep - you already know! 💯

I'm often viewed as the Mediator, the Diplomat or "The Bridge" between two opposing parties. As it comes pretty naturally to me.

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