posted January 05, 2014 07:59 AM            

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Originally posted by summerlite:
i feel like an old soul. but how do u check it?

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When you look in the mirror and let your eyes haze over, you can see all the people you've been in the past...

Just playing

posted January 05, 2014 08:31 AM            

Regarding Twilight. And no, Bella and Edward are NOT twin flames or soulmates. Edward is not an old soul, Bella is not an young soul. They are karmic soulmates who happened to be in love. Just because Edward has died at age 17 and became a vampire who experienced THE MUNDANE life that doesn't make him an old soul. His soul has experienced the same life for a century and so and while in a dead body cannot complete or keep the reincarnation cycle on going. His soul is trapped in that dead body no matter how many years or centuries has lived. That's not how the karma works. The soul is a SPIRITUAL thing. Bella and Edward are both DEAD living an IMMORTAL life HERE ON EARTH. Their connection with God is NONEXISTENT.

posted January 05, 2014 08:50 AM            

But, let's not forget, they CHOSE it.

posted January 05, 2014 09:04 AM            

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Originally posted by incognito:
Rosalind, with all due respect... I think you're full of sh*t. You state things like you know them for a fact. How do you know we cant have a cycle of 400 reincarnations. Are you God?

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posted January 05, 2014 09:21 AM            

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Originally posted by incognito:
brat. you must be 12

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posted January 05, 2014 09:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Ann7:
Of course! They can both benefit and learn from each other.

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posted January 05, 2014 10:16 AM            

You can tell how far you've evolved by your Ascendant sign.

Now to the question, Not all souls have to come back, sometimes they choose to, to help another. So the answer to your question is yes I can see and old soul helping out a newbie.

If you want to understand Astrology, Karma, and Reincarnation you should read Martin Schullmann's series on Karma.
I highly recommend this series, it is an eye opener and should be mandatory for all serious students.

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posted January 05, 2014 10:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
As long they share a POSITIVE karma. You forgot to add that.

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posted January 05, 2014 10:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:

Young souls are born to LEARN. Old souls to LEARN AND TEACH.
They need to live and to experience the live on Earth. Old souls are here to live and experience their LAST lifetime on Earth. And usually is the most painful. Not only because of the karma but also because their soul bears the past lifetimes experiences which are both good and bad.
The young souls are the rebel ones. The souls that don't know anything and that must gain experience over their lifetime cycle. Old souls are the disciplinate ones who are wise and know what life is.
You can make the difference between them by observing people. Usually, people who are REALISTIC and who live their lives according to the Earth plane and rules are young souls. Their mission is not easy. While they live their mundane lives, their soul is searching for the invisible plane, for the spiritual side, to go back there, to God. Old souls are already on that path. Their last mission is to spread their knowledge on spiritual matters, to spread God's will and that means : love, kindness, acceptance, peace etc. Example: Nelson Mandela was an old soul. Dalai Lama is an old soul. Mother Teresa etc.
The thing with like and dislike regarding people, has NOTHING to do with old and young souls. Has to do with KARMA. If in a past life someone has harmed you, in this life you are gonna dislike that person and you are gonna be reluctant towards that person but not because of fear but because your soul knows what that person did to you and doesn't want to repeat the same pattern. Karmic relationships have one sole purpose: TO FORGIVE AND MEND THINGS. If things cant be mended, that's alright, the meeting itself has cleared the karma. That person was brought into your life with the purpose for you to FORGIVE.

Young souls usually live their first lifetimes being confused and amazed by the Earth plane. They rarely accomodate to this plane, wanting to go back on the other side. Earth plane is a CHALLENGE, A TEST from God which happens to be AT ALL easy.
Old souls know their lifetime cycle has come to an end and their know one day they will go back to the SOURCE (or God).
They have karma to clear as well, their are challenged and tested probably worse than young souls but that is only to make them realize that what really matters is the spiritual plane, the come back to God where everything is well. Where there is no more suffering and pain. Because like young souls they are born without a memory, until they realise their purpose on Earth, a certain stage of their mundane life is filled with resistance.
To be an young soul is not easy because there is no guidance except life itself.
To be an old soul is not easy either because your mission is greater that other might think. You have experience and you must be a guide for others.

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Superb!
Nicely put Rosalind.

posted January 05, 2014 11:24 AM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
No offense Rosalind but you don't know what you're talking about, there are no set number of reincarnations just a set number of lessons to be mastered. Each of these lessons are mastered through each sign of the Zodiac. You master one, you move on to the next.

You can tell how far you've evolved by your Ascendant sign.

Now to the question, Not all souls have to come back, sometimes they choose to, to help another. So the answer to your question is yes I can see and old soul helping out a newbie.

If you want to understand Astrology, Karma, and Reincarnation you should read Martin Schullmann's series on Karma.
I highly recommend this series, it is an eye opener and should be mandatory for all serious students.

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No offense, but I know PERFECTLY what I am talking about. Its not my fault that you prefer to read books written from others instead of accesing the knowledge from your own mind and soul. Don't blame me for you refusing to LEARN and only copy pasting things written over and over again by people who don't know ANYTHING about karma and reincarnation.

posted January 05, 2014 11:47 AM            

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Originally posted by CatMote:
conviction and passion are great.
claiming they're fact isnt. and that goes for anything.

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posted January 05, 2014 01:22 PM            

One thing I noticed about you Rosalind is how closed minded you are about anybody's opinion that differs from your own. You attack them.

The one thing Astrology is not is set in stone, interpretation is individual.
That is not to say everyone is always correct but those with the gift use their insights and continue learning instead of making judgment calls while labeling it incorrect if it doesn't mesh with their own interpretation.
That is always a bad sign for an Astrologer.

You say you're almost finished with this forum?
well when exactly will that be?

If you want to throw away that chip on your shoulders and treat others with respect, well then stay for awhile...here have an Astro Cookie.

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posted January 05, 2014 01:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
First of all, you need to know that new souls and old souls are VERY RARE. What exists on Earth are middle aged souls because karma is keeping them here until its cleared.
Now, NO SOUL lived 400 lives. That's impossible because the soul doesn't reincarnate so many times and because it depends solely on the degree of the karma. There is a cycle of 9 reincarnations. I think most of you heard and read about it. The first and last reincarnation is the most important.
To answer your question in short the answer is that we don't know that. Young souls and old souls have special missions aside from regular souls who keep reincarnating to clear the karma. Young souls are born to LEARN. Old souls to LEARN AND TEACH.
Young souls since are like babies rarely go and share lives with old souls and that because they must live their own mission. They need to live and to experience the live on Earth. Old souls are here to live and experience their LAST lifetime on Earth. And usually is the most painful. Not only because of the karma but also because their soul bears the past lifetimes experiences which are both good and bad.
The young souls are the rebel ones. The souls that don't know anything and that must gain experience over their lifetime cycle. Old souls are the disciplinate ones who are wise and know what life is.
You can make the difference between them by observing people. Usually, people who are REALISTIC and who live their lives according to the Earth plane and rules are young souls. Their mission is not easy. While they live their mundane lives, their soul is searching for the invisible plane, for the spiritual side, to go back there, to God. Old souls are already on that path. Their last mission is to spread their knowledge on spiritual matters, to spread God's will and that means : love, kindness, acceptance, peace etc. Example: Nelson Mandela was an old soul. Dalai Lama is an old soul. Mother Teresa etc.
Children who have a superior intelligence, who are misunderstood, bullied from early stages of their life. People who are DIFFERENT from other people. Those are RARE and ARE old souls.
The thing with like and dislike regarding people, has NOTHING to do with old and young souls. Has to do with KARMA. If in a past life someone has harmed you, in this life you are gonna dislike that person and you are gonna be reluctant towards that person but not because of fear but because your soul knows what that person did to you and doesn't want to repeat the same pattern. Karmic relationships have one sole purpose: TO FORGIVE AND MEND THINGS. If things cant be mended, that's alright, the meeting itself has cleared the karma. That person was brought into your life with the purpose for you to FORGIVE.

Regarding Twilight. And no, Bella and Edward are NOT twin flames or soulmates. Edward is not an old soul, Bella is not an young soul. They are karmic soulmates who happened to be in love. Just because Edward has died at age 17 and became a vampire who experienced THE MUNDANE life that doesn't make him an old soul. His soul has experienced the same life for a century and so and while in a dead body cannot complete or keep the reincarnation cycle on going. His soul is trapped in that dead body no matter how many years or centuries has lived. That's not how the karma works. The soul is a SPIRITUAL thing. Bella and Edward are both DEAD living an IMMORTAL life HERE ON EARTH. Their connection with God is NONEXISTENT.

Young souls usually live their first lifetimes being confused and amazed by the Earth plane. They rarely accomodate to this plane, wanting to go back on the other side. Earth plane is a CHALLENGE, A TEST from God which happens to be AT ALL easy.
Old souls know their lifetime cycle has come to an end and their know one day they will go back to the SOURCE (or God).
They have karma to clear as well, their are challenged and tested probably worse than young souls but that is only to make them realize that what really matters is the spiritual plane, the come back to God where everything is well. Where there is no more suffering and pain. Because like young souls they are born without a memory, until they realise their purpose on Earth, a certain stage of their mundane life is filled with resistance. I am an old soul and I didnt want to accept my reality until a few years ago. Its not that I have a choice, anyway. When I started to remember my past lives, when I started to realised the purpose of my lifetime and found out that this is my last lifetime on Earth, I cried. I felt like I didnt do enough for myself and others. I felt and still feel that I didnt experience too many things and that my life is gonna be short without much joy. What can I say? Its God's will, not mine. Since I was a little child I felt I was different. I was looking at other kids of my age and I felt older than them. My mind was very different from theirs. They were anxious to learn new things about life and I was feeling exhausted about it. Everytime someone was trying to teach me something I was getting bored. I was feeling that nothing I was told was new.
All my karmic relationships are with young souls including the members of my family. God wanted me to see how I lived in my past lives through these people. God wanted me to accept and forgive. Its not easy, especially if these people keep doing bad things towards me. I can only accept that this is a part of God's plan and hope that one day will be better.
To be an young soul is not easy because there is no guidance except life itself.
To be an old soul is not easy either because your mission is greater that other might think. You have experience and you must be a guide for others. You must teach, you must guide people that might NOT accept or understand your purpose. Nelson Mandela is a perfect example. Martin Luther King another.

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posted January 05, 2014 01:49 PM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Hello Sulkyarcher! Welcome to LL

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Yay! I get a hello! :.jumps up and down:.

posted January 05, 2014 01:49 PM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
I'm not really a copy and paste person unless it is called for, nor did I read a book and call myself an Astrologer I'm actually fully accredited and have been since 1981 now how about you Rosalind?

One thing I noticed about you Rosalind is how closed minded you are about anybody's opinion that differs from your own. You attack them.

The one thing Astrology is not is set in stone, interpretation is individual.
That is not to say everyone is always correct but those with the gift use their insights and continue learning instead of making judgment calls while labeling it incorrect if it doesn't mesh with their own interpretation.
That is always a bad sign for an Astrologer.

You say you're almost finished with this forum?
well when exactly will that be?

If you want to throw away that chip on your shoulders and treat others with respect, well then stay for awhile...here have an Astro Cookie.

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posted January 05, 2014 01:50 PM            

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Originally posted by CatMote:
conviction and passion are great.
claiming they're fact isnt. and that goes for anything.

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I agree.

posted January 05, 2014 01:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Ann7:
Of course! They can both benefit and learn from each other.

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posted January 05, 2014 02:25 PM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
I'm not really a copy and paste person unless it is called for, nor did I read a book and call myself an Astrologer I'm actually fully accredited and have been since 1981 now how about you Rosalind?

One thing I noticed about you Rosalind is how closed minded you are about anybody's opinion that differs from your own. You attack them.

The one thing Astrology is not is set in stone, interpretation is individual.
That is not to say everyone is always correct but those with the gift use their insights and continue learning instead of making judgment calls while labeling it incorrect if it doesn't mesh with their own interpretation.
That is always a bad sign for an Astrologer.

You say you're almost finished with this forum?
well when exactly will that be?

If you want to throw away that chip on your shoulders and treat others with respect, well then stay for awhile...here have an Astro Cookie.

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Yes, darling, whatever you say.

posted January 05, 2014 03:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Yes, darling, whatever you say.

PS: Respect is EARNED not given. And I don't think being told I'm full of **** I'm respected.

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Like you say, respect is earned. Maybe if you came back from the other side with perfect recall you and every other "karmic astrologer" would have some claim to being taken seriously, but as you haven't, it's all opinion and nothing else. You don't have perfect recall, do you?