posted January 05, 2014 02:22 AM            

Cazimi planets.

Planets that are 'under the Sun beams'.

Let's discuss them. Do you have planets that are in aspect with your natal sun?

What are they?

How do you feel them?

posted January 05, 2014 02:56 AM            

I don't feel those planets individually.
They all seem to be part of my identify.

I think of it like a stu, the sun is the boiling pot and the planets are the ingredients.
Those planets mixed together are actually kinda sweet.
So it's not too bad I guess.

Plus I read somewhere that Mercury and Venus are like handmaids to the sun so it's usually not so bad.
Venus-mercury conjunctions are common phenomenon.

posted January 05, 2014 03:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Lunae:
Scorpio mars and pluto in combust with my sun in the 5th house. The only aspect it makes aside from these conjunctions is a trine to my moon (and a square to chiron if you'll count that too).

How do I experience it? I think that I have innate strength, talent and confidence. However, since my chart ruler is debilitated as the apex of a t-square, I have difficulty expressing it to the world.

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Hey,

posted January 05, 2014 03:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
moon is cazmi.
mercury 1 degree
Venus 3

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hmmm I forgot what is your sun sign

what's the dispositor of the sign doing in your chart?

posted January 05, 2014 03:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Hey,

I have read somewhere that Mars is the only planet that gets strengthened by its proximity to the Sun.

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posted January 05, 2014 03:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
gemini.
Mercury is dispositor.

HBU?

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WTH does that mean?

Anyways, I noticed your mercury is almost in complete conjunction with the Sun and since he is the dispositor of your sun sign, is in its own house,it however manages to retain its power vis a vis the sun.

posted January 05, 2014 03:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Lunae:
Yeah I remember reading it somewhere too. Isn't it the same in vedic? Or maybe I got that from a vedic astrology site? Haha

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posted January 05, 2014 03:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
"how about you?"
don't you have a stellium near your sun?

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OMG. I am so out of touch with these abbreviations

Yeahhhhhhhhh K, another one of my obsession lately

I have a stellium with the Sun. Sun conjunct Venus,Mercury,Saturn,Ceres. Mercury-Venus conjunct Saturn.

What type of chart you said you had in my previous thread?

There's something about ''close pairs'' planets. You have to look it up ( if you haven't already). It talks about 3 or 4 planets that are in conjunction with each other in a localized part of a natal chart.

posted January 05, 2014 03:25 AM            

What is sun conjunct saturn in leo like?

posted January 05, 2014 03:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
It's actually funny that combust planets are only talked in Vedic and Western astrology speaks of combust significators only in Horary astrology. I'm guessing you must have read it on a vedic page.

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Yeah most likely

Doesn't a stellium show a particular "area of expertise"? I think that in people with a stellium, they express the traits of the house they reside more than the sign.

posted January 05, 2014 03:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Interesting!!!
May I ask what your love life is like?
I'm just curious if such qualities actually manifest in peoples charts
You can choose not to answer
I read when sun (in your case which is in leo) dries up venus.
While someone who has Sun conjunct Venus in taurus or libra.
Weakens the sun.

What is sun conjunct saturn in leo like?

Oh yeah those planets conjunct my ascendant.

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Well, I don't see it like that tbh. I think the qualities of Venus gets 'brighter' so bloody bright that sometimes she is overwhelmed by the attention she receives and doesn't know HOW to respond since she is also in conjunction with saturn so she is very cautious and very attentive to any signs of frivolity.Might I add that Taurus is my 5th house.

As for the other qualities of Venus, I am really blessed in that department. So that's why I want to fully understand the term 'under the sun's beams'.

How is Sun conjunct Saturn in leo like?

posted January 05, 2014 03:46 AM            

I don't want Venus to be a major focus in my life... I just don't like her.. to be honest. She can go far away from my luminaries.
Relationships in my life are so important to me yet I feel so delicate and helpless so I just close off my heart to most people even if I want them to love me.

posted January 05, 2014 03:53 AM            

Conjunctions (within a 17 degree orb)
Venus
I don't notice this conjunction much because it is 12 degrees away and in another sign. Both planets are in the 8H however. Venus is in Scorpio and my Pluto is in Libra, so it probably just adds an additional zing to my Sun's experience of the 8H.

Combust
Neptune & Ceres
I feel both heavily. Neptune is 4 degrees from my Sun and Ceres is 5 degrees away. It would take long to explain though, so let's say I get all the fun of Neptune in the 8H with a strong desire to devote that energy toward nourishing others.

Trine
Mars (Partile)
Eris, SN, ASC
The Sun forms a grand fire trine with Mars and Eris/SN/ASC. Mars gives me a lot of energy and Eris/SN(12H)/ASC adds a desire for spiritual exploration.

posted January 05, 2014 04:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
That's nice!! I suppose venus and amplified by a domicle sun huh?
I don't feel sun combust venus is a blessing at all.
I'd rather have sun conjunct mars!!
I love people with luminaries conjunct mars.
They are so fearless and motivated to move forward.

I don't want Venus to be a major focus in my life... I just don't like her.. to be honest. She can go far away from my luminaries.
Relationships in my life are so important to me yet I feel so delicate and helpless so I just close off my heart to most people even if I want them to love me.

LOL yes you are not like a typical LEO!!
Sun conjunct saturn is a total hardass.
I really like that. I think they make for stronger people.

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I think alot of stuff can indicate strength in a chart not just Saturn. Pluto can handle sh*t others cannot, and rise out of the ashes; Jupiter can give optimism and the ability to keep going through times of hardship without winding up bitter, that sort of thing.

Besides I don't really buy the concept of strength and weakness in people anyway because no one is invincible and everybody has something that would knock them down, something they're incapable of handling. I think sometimes some people get fooled into thinking they're the toughest thing on two legs because they haven't hit that brick wall yet - and by that I mean, experienced something they just could deal with.

posted January 05, 2014 01:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
That's nice!! I suppose venus and amplified by a domicle sun huh?
I don't feel sun combust venus is a blessing at all.
I'd rather have sun conjunct mars!!
I love people with luminaries conjunct mars.
They are so fearless and motivated to move forward.

I don't want Venus to be a major focus in my life... I just don't like her.. to be honest. She can go far away from my luminaries.
Relationships in my life are so important to me yet I feel so delicate and helpless so I just close off my heart to most people even if I want them to love me.

LOL yes you are not like a typical LEO!!
Sun conjunct saturn is a total hardass.
I really like that. I think they make for stronger people.

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I would say it's because of your combust moon. The Sun robbed the planet's of its energy,appropriate itself of the qualities and purposes of the planets he is in conjunction,therefore rendering them sensitive and vulnerable in their purpose in a natal chart.The Sun grows in power, in influence and in meaning.

Now what about a combust Saturn? Does the Sun strip Saturn of its malefic influence? Does it mean that a combust saturn is ''at lost'' is no longer capable of 'performing' on its own? Does the Sun adopts more a Saturnine flavour when in conjunction with Saturn?

posted January 05, 2014 01:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Sun -

Conjunctions (within a 17 degree orb)
Venus
I don't notice this conjunction much because it is 12 degrees away and in another sign. Both planets are in the 8H however. Venus is in Scorpio and my Pluto is in Libra, so it probably just adds an additional zing to my Sun's experience of the 8H.

Combust
Neptune & Ceres
I feel both heavily. Neptune is 4 degrees from my Sun and Ceres is 5 degrees away. It would take long to explain though, so let's say I get all the fun of Neptune in the 8H with a strong desire to devote that energy toward nourishing others.

Trine
Mars (Partile)
Eris, SN, ASC
The Sun forms a grand fire trine with Mars and Eris/SN/ASC. Mars gives me a lot of energy and Eris/SN(12H)/ASC adds a desire for spiritual exploration.

Sextile
Pluto, NN, DSC
Moar powah! Makes interacting with others a transforming experience. Inspires me to obsess about how my actions/expressions affect others and makes me a rather engaging person in a face to face experience.

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I'm curious, I'd like you to share with us how do you feel a combust neptune?

posted January 05, 2014 03:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
I'm curious, I'd like you to share with us how do you feel a combust neptune?

If that's okay with you of course.

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Well, it feels like I don't have a self. I guess more directly stated, it feels like the self is so amorphous, that it is impossible to extend my finger and say, "this right here is me". I know I have a body and a mind and so on, but those don't specifically feel like "me", they feel like tools, "me" uses. I have likened the feeling to being an ocean within which everything in my environment swims. The feelings people feel, their thoughts, all swim around inside my sphere of perception like fish, causing little wakes of perceivable turbulence.

I ultimately struggle identifying boundaries, when a person tells me a story, my perception of that story is not bound in the moment, I begin to see the people they are talking about, their reasons for acting the way they did, etc.. Much of what I perceive comes to me in patterns of feelings or images, so when it comes to identifying my self or others, I see it more as exploring very complex universes of pattern and color. This is why Astrology is an interest of mine, because it focuses specifically on patterns and how they evolve/transform as they progress. Fortunately I have other aspects that tie a chain to my ankle and fasten me to the ground. These aspects tend to express to others that I am not a complete space cadet.

I'm like a blind person with a well honed sense of smell. I rarely can identify what is standing right in front of me, but I can describe it perfectly, talk about the products it used that morning, describe its lunch before our meeting, and identify it has a baby at home, because that is what I smell on them. I get by pretty well without people figuring out that I am using a totally different set of senses to participate in reality. Often what tips people off is my social awkwardness.

Boundaries being an issue, I have difficulty sensing at what level people are comfortable interacting with me. Having Nep/Sun trine Mars and ASC is VERY helpful when dealing with people I don't know well, but when people are close, I have to be very careful and observant. For example, on new years eve I had spent the night at a friend's house. When she returned from a quick visit to work, the whole house filled with the feeling of her ex-boyfriend, who she broke up with before thanksgiving. I was in the bathtub, but when I was done I asked her if everything was okay, because the whole house got thick when she walked in. She just played it off and said everything was fine. When I was younger I would have pressed the matter, but because I have known her for almost 20 years, I knew just to drop the topic. Three days later she called me to discuss her ex who had texted her right before she got home from work new years day.

After dealing with me for a while, people tend to notice my genuine struggle (and desire) to comprehend the socially accepted world with the same gravity others tend to experience in it. I'm not saying the world doesn't need to be perceived as important, only that some people are more equipped to give that value to the world. I appear to be more equipped to see through that value and experience what swims beyond it. oooOOoo =)

posted January 05, 2014 03:58 PM            

Sun conjunct -
Cruinthe (Earths second Moon) - Exact
Christian - 1 Degree
Kaali - 1 Degree
Talent - 1 Degree
Eros - 2 Degree's
Mercury 4 Degree's

posted January 05, 2014 06:21 PM            

Sun conjunct Uranus 10 degrees: I'm weird...

Sun conjunct saturn 5 degrees: I think this is contradictory and usually Saturn doesn't get along with Neptune especially. But it does help me keep one foot grounded in reality, and prevents me from going completely off the deep end (most of the time lol)

Sun conjunct NN 7 degrees: idk how this manifests honestly

Sun conjunct Venus 17 degrees: I don't really feel it at all, it's too wide or also maybe complicated by saturn conjunct venus 12 degrees...

posted January 05, 2014 06:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
I would say it's because of your combust moon. The Sun robbed the planet's of its energy,appropriate itself of the qualities and purposes of the planets he is in conjunction,therefore rendering them sensitive and vulnerable in their purpose in a natal chart.The Sun grows in power, in influence and in meaning.

Now what about a combust Saturn? Does the Sun strip Saturn of its malefic influence? Does it mean that a combust saturn is ''at lost'' is no longer capable of 'performing' on its own? Does the Sun adopts more a Saturnine flavour when in conjunction with Saturn?

I think yes, that's why people who have the conjunction in the same sign (for combustion can only take place if both planets are in the same sign) are people more often than not hard-ass people.

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