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Topic: Why are pisces self-destructive?
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted January 11, 2014 01:25 PM
  
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Originally posted by Leocassandra:
Yes, you are right  I think sometimes opposite signs can be so similar to each other for example Aqua Sun can be despotic as Leo in his need to be seen as unique.
Pisces-Virgo axis is quite common with self-destructive tendency
I will bring some rationality to this.
I just haven't noticed it as being that common. You are biased because you hear about the worst ones but for every one you hear about there are at least ten others who are quite the opposite of self destructive and just go about living their lives without drama.
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Leocassandra
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posted January 11, 2014 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Leocassandra:
[b] [QUOTE]Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
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Good point, LC, but it's still not technically a Pisces sun. Virgo and Pisces are two different sign so it's not fair to blame a Pisces sun when a Virgo does something, and vice versa.
Yes, you are right I think sometimes opposite signs can be so similar to each other for example Aqua Sun can be despotic as Leo in his need to be seen as unique.
Pisces-Virgo axis is quite common with self-destructive tendency[/B][/QUOTE]
I just haven't noticed it as being that common. You are biased because you hear about the worst ones but for every one you hear about there are at least ten others who are quite the opposite of self destructive and just go about living their lives without drama.[/B][/QUOTE]
No. I observe this in life too, and im not seeing it as bad. Im not judging.
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Violets
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posted January 11, 2014 01:29 PM
I've known a lot of self-destructive people, and a lot of drug addicts. Some were Pisces, some were Virgos, some were not. I can see why Pisces is associated with this type of thing, just as much as the 12th house or Neptune is. However, aspects and planets are always the key in these situations, I think. Aspects will override a Sun sign any day, to my way of thinking. IP: Logged |
14All
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posted January 11, 2014 01:31 PM
By self-destructive one could also read destruction of the ego. If the Pisces sign is meant to show compassion in the pisces fashion, I expect it to be through the destruction of primary instincts and primary behavior in exchange for the integration of morals and values.So if the ego is rejected for a higher personality archetype in Pisces people, and that the personality they built is rejected by peers or society, these Pisces might feel as good as dead and thus turn to physical self-destructive abuse... I might be wrong but I'm a Pisces sun and I feel that way :3 IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted January 11, 2014 01:34 PM
It's power of suggestion.
People think they are supposed to be that way because someone else is and a lot of attention is paid.
That might not be the case for everyone but I bet it is for some. Everybody is different and anyone is susceptible to drugs/alcohol. All you need is one extremely stressful event in your life to knock you on your ass and you can get hooked on either of those. Most people have more than one event. Might not even be due to stress, might just be the party culture, too. It can be either. But it can happen to anyone.
What I am basically saying is, Pisces is not fated to experience this.
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Violets
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posted January 11, 2014 01:39 PM
I don't think Pisces are fated to experience that at all. Look at Einstein, Steinbeck, and a plethora of others. I am guessing it has to do with their charts.While I agree that a stressful event can cause many people to become addicted to substances (or, more to the point, many stressful events, as you mentioned) I do think that some signs and/or placements are more inclined than others to go overboard with it. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted January 11, 2014 01:46 PM
I live in a place where there's a lot of drug abuse, one of the worst in the nation, and we just had a major catastrophe that affected a lot of people. We got brochures warning us not to cope with drugs and alcohol from a disaster response agency. That's probably common wherever there's a disaster though.IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted January 11, 2014 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by Violets:
Time to paint the bathroom.
Just don't destroy it.  IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted January 11, 2014 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
Just don't destroy it.
Ahahahaha...!  I'll try, heh. I find it highly inconvenient that my Virgo Moon always decides to bail on me when I'm trying to paint trim. Effing Moon. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted January 11, 2014 01:54 PM
^ Virgo! So destructive!!! No but seriously good luck painting IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted January 11, 2014 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
^ Virgo! So destructive!!!
You're actually making me laugh out loud now. This thread is making me feel like I should do the Monty Python "silly walk" through the hallway in between coats. And thanks, I'll be needing it. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted January 11, 2014 02:43 PM
Just go easy huffing the paint fumes and you should be able to get that trim right. IP: Logged |
Venusian Moon
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posted January 11, 2014 03:04 PM
My dad had his natal venus in the 8th house in pisces.On the day he took his life and was on alot of drugs he had moon in pisces in the 8th house. Neptune. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted January 11, 2014 03:59 PM
^ Oh that's so sad. I'm sorry you lost your father that way.  IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted January 11, 2014 04:14 PM
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^ Oh that's so sad. I'm sorry you lost your father that way.
Me too.  IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted January 11, 2014 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by livictori:
For me as a Pisces sun, Leo moon and Libra rising. My destruction comes from lack of focus. One one part of my life is not working the way I want; I ignore it. When someone is not treating me the way I want; I ignore it.
I dream of relief. I make that place a delicious hiding place. Depending on what I'm running from; I then make it a reality. But that doesn't work. While I am saving and rescuing everyone else, my monster gets bigger and uncontrollable so that when I have to come to terms with what I created; its too painful
That's it.
That's what it is.
Question answered. Thank you for explaining from the actual mind of a pisces sun
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RunAroundScreaming
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posted January 11, 2014 10:25 PM
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Originally posted by Leocassandra:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
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Good point, LC, but it's still not technically a Pisces sun. Virgo and Pisces are two different sign so it's not fair to blame a Pisces sun when a Virgo does something, and vice versa.
Yes, you are right I think sometimes opposite signs can be so similar to each other for example Aqua Sun can be despotic as Leo in his need to be seen as unique.
Pisces-Virgo axis is quite common with self-destructive tendency[/B][/QUOTE]Very true. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted January 11, 2014 11:00 PM
Personally, my self-destructive tendencies were the result of internalized anger and the belief that I could not express my pain in any other way. And I had a lot of pain and anger to internalize.But yes, I think that avoidance is always the underlying factor here, in one form or another. I don't know that I was ever trying to save anyone except for myself, quite honestly.  IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa
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posted July 26, 2020 06:43 PM
I am a pisces and I cried reading your posts here.It is true that we are prone to addiction.
Sometimes it is hard for us and I'm not speaking about all the pisces out there, but, until now, I met just 2 pisces girls that were toxic to the world and I think their sun was afflicted (I didnt check their chart), the rest of them are really sensitive and are not materilistic, they just want peace and the bad things in the world affect us really bad. For me to forget about the bad things, I ignore them. Sometimes it is too much to take, too much to think about them. I'll give an example.
A small dog that lives near my house was kicked by a human which I'll prefer to call an animal and now she can't walk anymore. That man kicked her so bad that she can't use her legs anymore and she's doing some recovery now, hopefully she will get better, but I don't if she will. A girl at work watched the film Joker that was released last year and she said "it portrait exactly what the world is, what it means to live in a world that doesn't undertand you". She was really upset about the movie. I was too. Really hard to watch, but that's how is the world. IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa
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posted July 26, 2020 07:13 PM
When I found out what sign I am, as a child, I hated it because I knew that it is a bad sign, too sesitive for the world, and I wished I was more stable and the type that nothing can move me...Until recently, when a guy at work that is a pisces too, told me "why do you hate it? it's the best sign of all" and I met other people having pisces sun, mercury, venus and it really opened my eyes. Now I wish to have this sign for every incarnation I will have, it this incarnation thing is real. IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted July 26, 2020 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
I'll give an example.
A small dog that lives near my house was kicked by a human which I'll prefer to call an animal and now she can't walk anymore. That man kicked her so bad that she can't use her legs anymore and she's doing some recovery now, hopefully she will get better, but I don't if she will.
That broke my heart. Please tell me there were consequences for the man who did this.
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mee_chryssa
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posted July 27, 2020 04:37 AM
No, to do something about it you have to have some proofs and the cameras weren't working at that time. I called the police once when I found a cat sick from poisoning and she got like that eating food left by neighbours, so I called the police and told them someone in the building is doing this and they need to know exactly who is doing this, and proofs to continue, otherwise it was just a supposition. IP: Logged |
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