posted January 09, 2014 01:15 PM            

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posted January 09, 2014 03:23 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Maybe some are but even more are not. Pisces is misunderstood. From my experience they are kinda like the sign that has it all. I guess I know the best of them, because I never notice anything self destructive or at least no more than others and they often have tremendous intelligence to help them out in life and are great at figuring out how to get what they need from the world. The ones I know are better equipped for making it in the world than the average person. Two of them have post grad degrees. Hmm doesn't sound that self destructive. I am Virgo and I don't have one.

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You're right, Pisces do seem to have it all. They are often beautiful regardless of shape or ability. Even their gentleman/lady-bits are often attractive. They are insanely resourceful, they tend to know how to fit right into any situation, and are often willing to help with an open heart. In an ideal world, they are the least judgmental, vindictive, self-serving, or malicious sign of the entire zodiac. ALL that, and they also get the benefit of Jupiter's luck on their side.

The waters of Pisces run deep. I know many who can function superbly in the world, but what happens inside is a completely different beast. Don't get me wrong. I love me some Pisces people, their external success is rarely an indicator of their internal situation though.

Pisces and Virgo are two sides of the same coin. Just as Virgo is often refining itself and seeking to be a helpful force, Pisces is known to tear itself down and shoulder the energetic burdens of others. Just as Virgo wouldn't offer help and then mess everything up after they finish, it seems somewhat counterproductive to a Pisces's nature to shoulder the weight of the world and then turn around to inflict their burdens on others. Instead, they weave a pretty, stable, and well established picture on the outside, saving others from all the negativity they have absorbed on their travels.

posted January 09, 2014 07:42 PM            

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Originally posted by IMoppedtheFloor:
Because they get off on pain. Anything else is boring to them, they don't want what's good for them.

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posted January 09, 2014 07:50 PM              

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:

If pisces isn't self-destructive then why is it the number one sign in astrology for substance abuse and addiction

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posted January 09, 2014 08:01 PM            

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If pisces isn't self-destructive then why is it the number one sign in astrology for substance abuse and addiction

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^ Is it? Well hey, drugs can be a learning experience.

Two of my longtime best friends are Pisces, so is my sister-in-law, uncle, dentist, most of my husbands' friends...none are addicts. Most of these people are well-adjusted, financially successful, and on top of their game.

The main thing about ALL Pisces I know is that they love music. You think they are no-nonsense types...then you hear they've invested a huge amount of money on their CD collection, stereo equipment, musical instruments, etcetera. Music is medicine to them. And they wouldn't need all that medicine if they weren't in pain or trying to sublimate the pain they absorb from the people they interact with.

I've seen even the toughest Pisces guys tear up when other men wouldn't. Maybe it's more like, with the more evolved Pisces, they've already been destroyed... and rebuilt themselves? Because there is both fracture/destruction and integrity there.

posted January 09, 2014 08:03 PM              

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^ Is it? Well hey, drugs can be a learning experience.

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posted January 09, 2014 08:04 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Thts interesting. I do know several alcoholic or heavy drug user pisces suns, also soft drug addicts

I have found what websites say to be true about all the sun signs ive read. So i trust when they say most ppl with substance abuse issues are pisces

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posted January 09, 2014 08:06 PM            

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Originally posted by IMoppedtheFloor:

What good is it if you end up in a grave. It's weird to me the way people try to make light of stuff like that, and I don't really believe you have to go through some traumatic stuff or do something that's dangerous to yourself in order to learn anything, whoever thought that concept up must be a little slow and missing a few turnips from the truck.

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posted January 09, 2014 10:57 PM              

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Originally posted by PlutoFish:
Because other people are not appreciative of there compassion, which then turns to being a self-defeatist, i think the key for Pisces is to lead a spiritual life or just stay naturally pure and healthy..

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posted January 10, 2014 02:15 AM            

When facing the realities of existence one can choose to either escape or to make sacred their life on earth. (Sacrifice is associated with Pisces, and sacrifice does not mean to give up anything for someone else, it comes from the word sacred and means "to make sacred" their lives here on earth. Sacredness is knowing that everything that is created is good and worthy of existence and has a place on earth.

Asteroid Karma placement in Pisces is about self-mastery., which may show up more as self destructive behavior than Pisces Sun.

posted January 10, 2014 04:17 AM            

I feel that Pisces have a special spiritual connection. We can easily tune into our "psychic power" without asking !

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posted January 10, 2014 06:33 AM            

It's interesting how many people run to the aid of Pisces to shield it from its attackers. In fact, it's sort of an indication at how good Pisces is at doing what it does. I'm not going to go down the list again of wonderful things Pisces has going for it, because I already did that (scroll up for more Piscean petting). I think RAS has a valid question and it is important when looking at signs, that we embrace the great and not-so-great in order to get a complete understanding.

Just because we know Pisces people who don't seem to have self-destructive tendencies, doesn't mean these people are avatars of their Sun sign. Pisces as an archetype does have a predisposition toward self dissolution and destruction. It's the finale of the zodiac wheel; the time when the cycle ends and the self-structure built from Aries up is melted down for recycling. It's ruled by the planet responsible for dissolving structures (constructively and destructively).