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sc0rpioRising
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posted January 11, 2014 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sc0rpioRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have moon in Virgo at 0 degrees.... Since its at 0 does that mean I have more of a Leo moon? But I feel like my moon in Virgo is really potent because of it degree? Does 0degree even have any significance? :-)

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posted January 11, 2014 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, it's a Virgo Moon, and a quite powerful one. The way I see it: planets in the first degree of a sign have very prominent traits of that sign, because the energy is "raw" and at its full peak. It's a bit chaotic though, and may be misdirected, because it's not mastered yet (it only just entered the sign).
That's how I see the 0°.
You have a super Virgo Moon. Yay!

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posted January 11, 2014 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sc0rpioRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
super virgo mooon.. i dont like my virgo moon.. and if its stronger at 0 degrees then its worse! it squares my saturn too in my natal chart... oh man! :-(

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posted January 11, 2014 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everything has Force in a sort of pinwheel fashion.

The Cardinal Houses are the Strongest.

The House Cusps are the most sensitive Point.

The early Degree of the Sign is the Greatest Expression.

If you sort of put it in thirds, and imagine the Force diminishing like when you throw a ball...

When you look at Decanates, the first Ten Degrees are the Virgo of Virgo. Mercury Double, so to speak.

Now, Virgo is interesting in that it has Mercury both Exalted and Domicile in it, so thats a good area.

The next Decanate will be Mercury/Saturn, then the final will be Mercury/Venus, so you can figure it from there.

This is because of the Elemental Triplicity of Earth; Virgo, Capricorn, Taurus.

You take the Rulers of the Signs in a Three-fold fashion.

You can do it with every Sign of every Element in the same way. Always with the first Decanate as Double Force.

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posted January 11, 2014 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sc0rpioRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so my moon in early degree of virgo has the greatest expression? i actually think it has the greatest expression of the negative aspects? because my attention to detail is minimal.. and im extremely critial of myself... so i think it exemplifies the negative qualities?

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posted January 11, 2014 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
conjuncts regulus so it may feel leonine.

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posted January 11, 2014 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have I done your chart?
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/009466.html

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posted January 11, 2014 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yeah not only that but dwad is in virgo!!!

My Nn is 0 degrees Cap and I feel super Cap-Cancer like sometimes.

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posted January 11, 2014 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sc0rpioRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
Have I done your chart?
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/009466.html


ahh no i havent asked.. but i would appreciate it if u would? :-)

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posted January 11, 2014 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sc0rpioRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Oh yeah not only that but dwad is in virgo!!!

My Nn is 0 degrees Cap and I feel super Cap-Cancer like sometimes.


sorry... what is a dwad?

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posted January 11, 2014 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have decans and dwads too.
In your case both are in Virgo.
Look them up, the concept isn't very complicated.
Think mini zodiac signs within degrees.

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posted January 11, 2014 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sc0rpioRising:
ahh no i havent asked.. but i would appreciate it if u would? :-)

Go there and do what it says. Be very accurate, the Moon moves FAST.

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posted January 11, 2014 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sc0rpioRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
Go there and do what it says. Be very accurate, the Moon moves FAST.


done... Thank you! :-)

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posted January 11, 2014 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, long post alert here.

Your Moon is Hung. That means a T-Square is the moving Force at the Apex of a Grand Trine. It is a Fulcrum-like Point.

Take both of these into account:


The Grand Trine seems particularly nice at first sight!

This not so frequent figure seems particularly nice at first sight. Indeed, how could one ask for more (in terms of easiness) than having three planets in trine with one another in the natal chart?!

It is perfectly correct to think that in natal charts, such a figure expresses a strong element of stability and "good luck" for the destiny or regarding events, depending on the meaning of planets and houses at play. Nevertheless, a closer look calls for a few comments.

As such, a trine is an aspect of harmony between two planets, but it does not prompt to action. Indeed, any action requires a drive that matches a void of some sort, whether the thirst for knowledge owing to deficiencies at some point in life, or the desire to change one's situation or environment caused by uneasiness in order to solve a problem, etc. In other words, action and the will to take action is usually linked to some sort of tension, and therefore, to so-called negative aspects in astrology.

It may seem paradoxical to link the capacity of action of a person to the presence of negative aspects in the natal chart. Nevertheless, it is the unavoidable truth, regardless of the nature of the planets (Mars in soft aspect still indicates a capacity to take action). We are addressing here the comparison between aspects taken separately.

Therefore, the Grand trine indicates a strong stability and at the same time a certain deficiency in terms of action (possibility of stagnation and immobility), all the more so if it involves the personal planets (the Sun through Mars), and even more definitely in the case of the luminaries (the Sun and the Moon).

In the above figure for instance, Venus is the only personal planet involved. The grand trine means a very strong stability in the affective area (Venus), increased by the trine with Saturn, which means duration and cristallisation of feelings, increased again by the trine to Jupiter. The planet of Greater Fortune in trine with the planet of Lesser Fortune is a premium asset for a successful affective life. But somehow, the triple trine works in a closed circuit and inclines towards inactivity. There is no need for a change since all is fine. Therefore, breaking up is difficult, and there is a strong propensity to get bogged down as long as the situation does not become unbearable, in spite of an impudent good luck.

Another important factor to consider is the grand trine's element. A fire grand trine is excellent for mobility and creativity, and the resulting actions are often devoid of risk or surprise. An air grand trine tends to make ideas turn tound in circles and toss them around uselessly, but it is favourable for communication. An earth grand trine gives unfailing common sense, and therefore, it is an asset to achieve material success, but with a danger to constantly remain in one's practical and even down to earth concepts. As for the water grand trine, it prompts to dream one's life rather than to concretely live it. It endows with unerring imagination and romanticism, but without enough tonicity to create real changes.

As always with all figures, their interpretation takes into account rulerships, exactness of aspects, as well as the possibility for trines to be formed in a different element (planets in between two signs), proximity with the angles, etc.

In brief, the grand trine is a major asset, but it often stands for a factor of peace, of stability, or immobility, often unnoticed by other people, rather a marked trait of the personality. It is when it is linked to a hard aspect (square, opposition) that it can fully play its role as a refuge or as a resting place. On that condition, it turns into a sheer asset, a little bit like an oasis where the native can seek refuge when tensions are too challenging elsewhere. The grand trine should be considered to be a rest and stabilisation factor and not a marker for extreme skills or some kind of originality.
The T-SQUARE
Contrary to the preceding case, the T-Square is scary straight away!

Contrary to the preceding case, the T-Square is scary straight away!

Contrary to the preceding case, the T-Square (its name matches the shape of a capital T when the central planet is at the bottom) is scary straight away. With only three planets forming two squares and one opposition, a lot of stress and tension may be expected, if the analysis is not carried out any further.

Actually, with this figure also, what happens is paradoxically the contrary of what seems patently obvious: the grand trine looks nice and easy, and ultimately, it turns out to have a high potential for… passivity (although it remains a pleasant factor of luck and rest). As for the T-Square, it turns out to be like… a Ferrari engine for the chart owner!

This figure is difficult to deal with in the first part of life. It is very energetic and prompts to take action, to surpass oneself, and to move forward at any cost in order to grow. Although the underlying reason is not entirely noble, since it is about finding peace and avoiding anything painful, the end result is achieved, in any case.

It is necessary to carry out a rigorous analysis of all the possible types of combinations (planets, signs, elements, etc.) in order to understand that some T-Squares are much more explosive than some others, for instance when planets by nature active are involved (Mars, Pluto, Uranus). The rule of thumb is that T-Squares create a tension which prompts the native to take action at any cost in order to get over problems, and to permanently change his personality and his environment. Indeed, at the slightest stagnation, the T-Square takes effect again and starts a new cycle.

How could one manage to deal with such composed aspects? There are two different ways to do so. Owing to the very nature of the T-Square, the central planet, which forms two squares with the two other planets, indicates how AND in which area the native must focus in order to alleviate the prevailing tensions. The central planet channels all the might of the T-Square, and it is usually the sector (the astrological house) where this planet is found that is the scene of extreme changes and evolution.

In the above example, the T-Square comprises a Sun-Neptune opposition, a Sun-Uranus square, and a Uranus-Neptune square. The aspects to the Sun are the most important ones (collective planets have less influence when they are not angular). The native feels the effects of a double tension. The first one is experienced like a pendulum caused by the Sun-Neptune opposition (this aspect is complementary and difficult to experience in the early part of life. Later on, the energies of the planets involved are gradually integrated instead of conflicting each other in turn). There is a conflict between the will (the Sun) and the propensity to dream one's life, or to delude oneself about an inspiration that leads to nothing concrete (Neptune). The second tension is much tougher (squares are more brutal than oppositions, and they are much more difficult to overcome). There is a clash between the will and an extremely wild desire for independence, or a frenzied need for freedom (Uranus).

Since Uranus is the central planet of our example, the first exit door shows that the solution lies in the free expression of Uranus' need for independence, freedom, and independence. It is best to use the channelled energy in intellectual and transcendental ways rather than in more direct ways because is it Uranus' nature.

The second exit door is indicated by the connection with another aspect, for instance through a sextile with another planet, or a trine with another group of planets. Such connections soothe the harsh energy of the T-Square and helps to drain it away whenever it becomes overwhelming and painful. It is useful to note that when the T-Square is isolated, it is difficult to experience, particularly if it involves fixed signs (the Taurus-Scorpio and Leo-Aquarius axes). In this latter case, the energies at play are less mobile than in other signs, and damages may be significant in terms of tensions or events when hard transits activate one of the points of the T-Square, particularly the central point.

Contrarily to the grand trine, the T-Square is very frequent. It is particularly active whenever it activates personal planets or the Ascendant's ruler, in addition to the three said planets.

Therefore, remember that the T-Square energises the natal chart owing to its frenzied need for action, and that it mainly influences the area of life indicated by the central planet. In general, it is quite well-experienced because it keeps things moving on. It is easier to deal with the T-Square when fixed signs and a majority of hard planets are not involved.

However, the T-Square remains sometimes a source of stress, for the best. Standing back results in personal growth, which enables to integrate and tame the three types of energy involved and to put them at the service of the native's will.

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posted January 11, 2014 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here you go:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/009808.html

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posted January 11, 2014 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Virgo 0 degree's is a Virgo Moon, you might have slight Leo charactaristics, you probably have some Leo fixed stars in with it aswell.

Regulus is the symbol for the Leo-Virgo switch.

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posted January 11, 2014 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted January 11, 2014 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for REVOLUTION21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, my God.

My Moon is at 1 degrees Virgo. My ASC/1st House is at 0 degrees Virgo.

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posted January 12, 2014 04:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
No, it's a Virgo Moon, and a quite powerful one. The way I see it: planets in the first degree of a sign have very prominent traits of that sign, because the energy is "raw" and at its full peak. It's a bit chaotic though, and may be misdirected, because it's not mastered yet (it only just entered the sign).
That's how I see the 0°.
You have a super Virgo Moon. Yay!

I have Moon in Virgo 11 degrees, but Saturn in Virgo 00. The above post by Doux Rêve hits this degree on the head. The closer to 0 degrees the more raw the sign is. Like a teenager who first gets their license, they just want to drive everywhere. When a planet first enters a sign it just wants to do all the sign related stuff. It takes some experience before the traits of the sign mellow out.

The closer a planet gets to 15 degrees, the more of a professional version of that sign it becomes. The planet becomes less enthusiastic about taking the new sign for a spin and starts to settle into executing the archetype of the sign in a balanced way.

By the time a planet reaches the 29th degree it is just ready to move the hell on. Like a snake shedding its skin, it is irritable. The played out lessons of the previous degrees are all learned and there is a restlessness for a new perspective. the last degrees are about discovering a new way of looking at the world.

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posted January 16, 2014 04:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruitTreeFresh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
An air grand trine tends to make ideas turn tound in circles and toss them around uselessly, but it is favourable for communication.

Spot on! Does it mean that air trine needs to stop procrastination?

Is T-square a Kite?

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posted January 16, 2014 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, it's Hung.

Think Libra Scales, the T-Square is hanging from the Apex of the Triangle.

Like you attached a clothes hanger to a pyramid, sort of.

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posted January 16, 2014 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is the Kite paragraph:

The kite is a figure comprising a grand trine, two sextiles and an opposition to a central planet.

The kite is a figure comprising a grand trine, two sextiles and an opposition to a central planet. In the above example, Jupiter is the central planet.

Beyond the particularly graceful and pleasant name of the figure (the grand cross and the finger of god are quite nice too), the characteristics of the grand trine are broadly found here, as well as a factor of chance and stability, in the sectors symbolised by the three planets that are within the kite. The central planet brings dynamism to this harmonious figure. However, a few remarks are needed:

The communication between the two planets linked to the central planet is stronger than in the grand trine. The two sextiles are communication aspects par excellence, and the easiness offered by the trio of planets involved is increased. Besides, the trine and the sextiles form a "small grand trine" of their own.

The oppposition creates a dynamic pendulum. If there is enough energy available, the oppostion provides a considerable capacity for stabilisation and action that is much higher than in the grand trine. Nonetheless, it seems that the kite is not too appreciated in the astrology literature because of its inertia. It is true that, like many other figures explained later in this article, the kite is still at the research stage, and its interpretation is far from being settled.

The kite abides by the general rule that too much easiness thwarts the chart owner's action, and that benefits come only in terms of protection and armour rather than creative and conquering potentials.

Actually, it is already not bad… As in the case of the grand trine, the effects of the kite figure can be best described with the image of a human being wearing a comfortable jumpsuit filled with… liquid (!) in order to absorb all life's blows whenever they occur. In those moments, there is merely a shock, the impacts' strength is softened, and after a few quivers, the happy chart owner rapidly gets back to his immutable stability!

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posted January 16, 2014 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FruitTreeFresh:
Spot on! Does it mean that air trine needs to stop procrastination?

Is T-square a Kite?


Already answered, but thought I would post the link:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/224648.html

to the link:
http://www.astrotheme.com/files/figures-composed-aspects.php

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posted January 19, 2014 04:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruitTreeFresh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Ellynlvx!

My virgo moon friend has three earth Grand Trines which I think it is really awesome.

Alright mine is a research-in-progress.

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