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Topic: Aspects of unpopular people
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Barbiegirl19
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posted January 28, 2014 05:16 PM
 
Obviously I'm a girl, just like she is  so she's not my "woman". You've been here a month and you bad mouthing other people doesn't make you look good friend.  IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted January 28, 2014 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by Gabby:
I think it depends on what you call popular or not...most popular people get that way by being mean and making people scared to not go along with them, fear of what this person will say or do that might humiliate you!
Plus what's considered popular in high school in very unpopular in real life. I think with age popularity is gauged in a different way....the popular people are not who can manipulate or bully people into fearing them and kiss their butt, they are the people that are quality people that contribute and make a difference. Intelligence, maturity, solidarity and trustworthy become the qualities of someone who is liked and the immature people who are still trying to be little jerks lose their hold over others as they become wiser and self esteem is based on what you produce not who your sitting with at lunch! I don't think there would be aspects to really gauge that but I do know cancer and leos together seem to make good "mean girls"!
In my school, there were people like this, thought of as nerds and geeks, who were bullied. It wasn't cool to look smart and nerdy. The popular people were jocks and what people called "stoners."
The stoners were bullies, sometimes, more than anyone else. They thought of misfits like me as freaks or stupid, frequently called us disparaging names, ridiculed the way we looked and thought we were basically dumb and nerdy. They had the least respect and the worst manners. Sometimes they beat people up. One or two were alright but most were the biggest ******** you could ever imagine lol. So narrow minded.So it's not just a matter of doing the right thing, being well groomed or intelligent, depending on what the culture is like where you live. If you live in a community of goat ropers and you choose to dress hip hop, do you think the goat ropers are going to accept you wholeheartedly? Same with anything else. I have found people are generally intolerant of differences with some being much more extreme, as I have described. I knew someone who was a total stoner and constantly berated and ragged on anyone she thought was too smart or nerdy. Again, it goes back to the MC and moon, plus ascendant to see how fit in with your surroundings. Twelfth house, maybe, too? Perhaps eleventh, to some degree. Seventh is open enemies.
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IMoppedtheFloor
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posted January 28, 2014 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by Gabby:
I think it depends on what you call popular or not...most popular people get that way by being mean and making people scared to not go along with them, fear of what this person will say or do that might humiliate you!
Plus what's considered popular in high school in very unpopular in real life. I think with age popularity is gauged in a different way....the popular people are not who can manipulate or bully people into fearing them and kiss their butt, they are the people that are quality people that contribute and make a difference. Intelligence, maturity, solidarity and trustworthy become the qualities of someone who is liked and the immature people who are still trying to be little jerks lose their hold over others as they become wiser and self esteem is based on what you produce not who your sitting with at lunch! I don't think there would be aspects to really gauge that but I do know cancer and leos together seem to make good "mean girls"!
Nah. I went to school with a pack of mean girls, and I know a few mean girls who grew up to be bitter, unstable women. None of them are Leos, although there's some Pisces, Aries, Cancer and Aqua energy up in there.
I do agree with you that popularity is due at times more to how much you can scare people - I know some people who get fawned over a lot and I think it's more because they fear what will happen to them if they go against the tide, so they play along. Remember, a lot of people live and die by what other people think of them, especially Capricornian people, or Librans that don't have any less compliant/docile aspects in their chart to balance them out.
I have four planets in Libra, yeah. But with Uranus Angular, an Aquarius south node, and an Aquarius ascendant...I'm not really THAT Libran and have no real problems doing and being what I want no matter how much blowback I get from people. Besides, with sun and mercury in leo, no one can tell me that I'm not f**king awesome (and get me to actually believe them), anyway lmao.
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meissieri
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posted January 28, 2014 05:19 PM
Okay, why would not being popular be self-inflicted? I can understand if you mean it as someone who doesn't put themselves out there, but if someone constantly gets harassed and called names, isn't it because of them? You can have the bad luck of being stuck with a bunch of jerks. Astro-wise, I think they'd have afflictions to their 11th house or the ruler, which rules fitting in, where you stand in groups, etc. IP: Logged |
IMoppedtheFloor
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posted January 28, 2014 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Obviously I'm a girl, just like she is so she's not my "woman". You've been here a month and you bad mouthing other people doesn't make you look good friend.
This is going to blow your Libran mind.
But not everybody CARES what "looks good" to other people. Not everybody is as desperate for validation and praise as YOU are. IP: Logged |
Enneline
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posted January 28, 2014 05:21 PM
Thanks for your input and suggestions.What about the the 10th house (career and others) and 11th house(friendship) and 1st house (self-identity)
In the chart of my friend's mother I see Mars and Saturn around her MC and Chiron is located in the first house. Those locations could be one of the reasons. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted January 28, 2014 05:23 PM
@meissieri I meant it as just what the definition of self infliction is. If you want to be popular or unpopular or whatever it is that you want to be it's all due to yourself. I've seen the nerdiest of kids become very well liked and so on and so on. Astrology doesn't and will never make a person popular, richer or whatever it's all in and up to the person. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted January 28, 2014 05:25 PM
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Originally posted by Enneline:
Thanks for your input and suggestions.What about the the 10th house (career and others) and 11th house(friendship) and 1st house (self-identity)
In the chart of my friend's mother I see Mars and Saturn around her MC and Chiron is located in the first house. Those locations could be one of the reasons.
Yep, those.It's been noted Chiron in the first can be particularly harsh. I have found it to be harsh near the descendant, too.
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Enneline
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posted January 28, 2014 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
If you want to be popular or unpopular or whatever it is that you want to be it's all due to yourself. I've seen the nerdiest of kids become very well liked and so on and so on. Astrology doesn't and will never make a person popular, richer or whatever it's all in and up to the person.
Absolutely, my experiences as well but I think you can see potentialsIP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted January 28, 2014 05:31 PM
it's not hard to be popular as an adult.
It's about networking , trying to fit in and vulnerable enough to reach out to others.
Unpopular people simply do not make much of an effort.
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Barbiegirl19
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posted January 28, 2014 05:31 PM
I don't though. Astrology isn't a science and can't determine those types of things so I don't see any lol. I have quite a few "bad" aspects and don't see any of them as they are described and presumed to be lol. At the end of the day astrology is and always will be ruled by opinions.IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted January 28, 2014 05:35 PM
Once you're an adult you aren't forced to attend school.
I find unpopularity exists mostly while there, not so much when you can escape that environment.
I reserve the label for people who are bullied and harassed everyday without much hope for escape. People without friends, and are shunned for whatever reason so everyone else sees them as fair game. Those are the ones who are unpopular.
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DeepFreeze
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posted January 28, 2014 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by IMoppedtheFloor:
I don't care what you have to say.She said something I disagreed with, I said so. I have the right to say so. Y'know, if you want to show your woman you love her, a quicker way to do it would be to take her out back and do a little licky-licky. Trying to play Cyber-Thug just makes you look stupid.
I think you have that backwards. Seems that you are trying to be a cyber-thug - being insulting to others simply for disagreeing and stating how you don't care what people think. (implying that you're "hard") IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted January 28, 2014 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I think you have that backwards. Seems that you are trying to be a cyber-thug - being insulting to others simply for disagreeing and stating how you don't care what people think. (implying that you're "hard")
When clearly "it"does care! Lol 
The "it" meaning I have no idea if it's a guy or a girl. I just don't see the need, want or even desire to be that way. IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae
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posted January 28, 2014 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Errr...This thread should've been titled "Aspects of bullied people".
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posted January 28, 2014 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by Enneline:
Thanks for your input and suggestions.What about the the 10th house (career and others) and 11th house(friendship) and 1st house (self-identity)
In the chart of my friend's mother I see Mars and Saturn around her MC and Chiron is located in the first house. Those locations could be one of the reasons.
I think it's interesting in the case of both the mother and the daughter that their moons are right on an angle: The mother has moon on MC, the daughter has moon on the desc squaring mars in the 10th. This might reflect more their concern with what others think than popularity per se. That could be a large part of the problem..they care too much. IP: Logged |
Enneline
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posted January 28, 2014 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
it's not hard to be popular as an adult.
It's about networking , trying to fit in and vulnerable enough to reach out to others.
Unpopular people simply do not make much of an effort.
Not the case with my friend's mother. She is almost 68. She can be very charming (asc in libra) but the sooner or later really everyone becomes irritated by her. She pretends not to care about that but that's a lie, my friend and I see how sad she becomes as soon as she notices that another person starts to dislike her. She obviously wants to be popular and really tries to be cordial. But her voice and the way she talks can be very nerve-racking....seriously...I am not exaggerating and she is a very domineering person.
I did not intend to start a heavy discussion I was just wondering which aspects and what pattern in her natal chart are to blame for that. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted January 28, 2014 06:18 PM
That's even more interesting, Venus is her chart ruler. You could see what sign or house Venus is in, if it is afflicted.
Venus afflicted can subtract from the social graces because of it's affinity with Libra. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted January 28, 2014 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by Enneline:
Not the case with my friend's mother. She is almost 68. She can be very charming (asc in libra) but the sooner or later really everyone becomes irritated by her. She pretends not to care about that but that's a lie, my friend and I see how sad she becomes as soon as she notices that another person starts to dislike her. She obviously wants to be popular and really tries to be cordial.But her voice and the way she talks can be very nerve-racking....seriously...I am not exaggerating and she is a very domineering person.
I did not intend to start a heavy discussion I was just wondering which aspects and what pattern in her natal chart are to blame for that.
It could be that's she's older too. Lots of older folk that I've come across feel and are this way. IP: Logged |
Enneline
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posted January 28, 2014 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by page one:
I think it's interesting in the case of both the mother and the daughter that their moons are right on an angle: The mother has moon on MC, the daughter has moon on the desc squaring mars in the 10th. This might reflect more their concern with what others think than popularity per se. That could be a large part of the problem..they care too much.
You are right. Yes, they care a lot what others think. They want to be popular and suffer from not being popular.
But they are really not popular although they are quite attractive and charming.
As I said I could not believe it before I saw it.
Once I was downton with my friend and her sister and there were a couple of women who looked at my friend's sister with full of hatred on their faces. It was terrifying. I have never watched that before. When we wanted to return home another woman almost run over my friend's sister in the underground garage. It was unbelievable. Really. And there are more incidents I could tell you... IP: Logged |
summerlite
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posted January 28, 2014 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by Enneline:
Not the case with my friend's mother. She is almost 68. She can be very charming (asc in libra) but the sooner or later really everyone becomes irritated by her. She pretends not to care about that but that's a lie, my friend and I see how sad she becomes as soon as she notices that another person starts to dislike her. She obviously wants to be popular and really tries to be cordial.But her voice and the way she talks can be very nerve-racking....seriously...I am not exaggerating and she is a very domineering person.
I did not intend to start a heavy discussion I was just wondering which aspects and what pattern in her natal chart are to blame for that.
that's not called unpopular. that's called attention-seeking. IP: Logged |
Enneline
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posted January 28, 2014 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by summerlite:
that's not called unpopular.that's called attention-seeking.
She is that as well. And what if people start to walk away as soon as she shows up? And then they say things like "she is soooo fuc**ng annoying, I can't stand" "urgh, the way she talks is quite disturbing", etc., etc. IP: Logged |
summerlite
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posted January 28, 2014 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by Enneline:
She is that as well. And what if people start to walk away as soon as she shows up? And then they say things like "she is soooo fuc**ng annoying, I can't stand" "urgh, the way she talks is quite disturbing", etc., etc.
She has Libra Rising that's attention seeking.
She has Neptune conjunct Libra ASC. The combination sounds very delusional. Her moon also squares the ASC-DSC axis (Neptune-Mercury). Mars also. She doesn't know when to stop.
Actually her chart is quite something.
Your friend has Moon square Mars from 7H. I suppose that means friction with women.
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Enneline
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posted January 28, 2014 06:45 PM
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Originally posted by summerlite:
She has Libra Rising that's attention seeking.
She has Neptune conjunct Libra ASC. The combination sounds very delusional.Her moon also squares the ASC-DSC axis (Neptune-Mercury). Mars also. She doesn't know when to stop.
Actually her chart is quite something.
Your friend has Moon square Mars. I suppose that means friction with women.
Yes, my friend's mother always crosses lines. She never respects anyone line's, doesn't stop if you say "Please that's my business only". She can fly into a frenzy when talking...to a point that she makes herself a fool...almost ridiculous. Yes, friction with women and/or the mother. They don't get along. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted January 28, 2014 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by summerlite:
She has Libra Rising that's attention seeking.
She has Neptune conjunct Libra ASC. The combination sounds very delusional.Her moon also squares the ASC-DSC axis (Neptune-Mercury). Mars also. She doesn't know when to stop.
Actually her chart is quite something.
Your friend has Moon square Mars. I suppose that means friction with women.
Boy oh boy summerlite how did I know you'd say all of that exactly! Libra rising isn't at all attention seeking lol. She wants attention because she's old, bored and miserable. I'm sure many other people in the same situation as she's in would probably do the exact same thing. My moon squares my mars and I don't see any friction as would anyone who knows me. Clearly the mother has rubbed off on the daughter and she's the way she is now because of it. IP: Logged |
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