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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted January 29, 2014 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by summerlite:
the reason why this forum is so unbalanced is because StarlightSmileSupreme feels the need to shame virgo in every thread.

If anything's good in her, she attributes it to the Libra in her. If anything's bad, it's the Virgo in her. I've never seen anyone deny their Sun sign in such manner.


Summerlite we were being so thoughtful on the Gemini v. Virgo thread...I didn't post anything negative and I take pride in the fact Vesta is co ruler of my Virgo sun. Review the threads about the asteroids and rulership of Virgo, you will see, I take great pride in Vesta and even called her my guardian angel. That doesn't sound like someone who blames everything on a Virgo sun...
You are just seeing what you want to see and nothing else. Not the entire picture.
So maybe it is you who needs some balancing?

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I'm so cappy
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posted January 29, 2014 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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People everywhere on this forum is trying to degrade virgo to being ruled by some unimportant asteroid no one cares for

I suppose you had my thread on mind. I wasn't trying to degrade anything, I simply like speculating, you know? Besides, I'm a Virgo riser and if I can handle the possibility of Virgo being ruled by "some unimportant asteroid", I believe you can too.

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I agree that it is awful that people suggest it is ruled by useless asteroids when the rest get ruled by planets and minor planets named after Gods

Ehem...
Ceres = goddess
Pallas = Athena = goddess
Vesta = goddess

According to wikipedia all of them are minor planets.

Enjoy the whining.

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Mercurian Intellect
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posted January 29, 2014 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
I think the overall issue Next To Neptune has is that people keep harping on the negative side of Virgo (which we all have), when other signs get only referenced on its positive expression.

I mean, I've seen people saying Libra, Pisces and Cancer are the best signs. Libra can be wishy washy and come off one dimensional. Pisces can be inconsistent and have identity crisis of what is it they really stand for.


I hardly ever see Libra talked about in a positive manner.

Everyone seems to hate that sign on here for some reason. (excluding Starlight, Barbie and MAYBE some others)

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted January 29, 2014 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
I hardly ever see Libra talked about in a positive manner.

Everyone seems to hate that sign on here for some reason. (excluding Starlight, Barbie and MAYBE some others)



DeepFreeze certainly doesn't hate Libra. My favorite placement of all would be Venus in Libra.

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summerlite
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posted January 29, 2014 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for summerlite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Summerlite we were being so thoughtful on the Gemini v. Virgo thread...I didn't post anything negative and I take pride in the fact Vesta is co ruler of my Virgo sun. Review the threads about the asteroids and rulership of Virgo, you will see, I take great pride in Vesta and even called her my guardian angel. That doesn't sound like someone who blames everything on a Virgo sun...
You are just seeing what you want to see and nothing else. Not the entire picture.
So maybe it is you who needs some balancing?

You denied Persephone's association with Virgo and tries to link her with Taurus/Scorpio. THAT is your problem.

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted January 29, 2014 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by summerlite:
You denied Persephone's association with Virgo and tries to link her with Taurus/Scorpio. THAT is your problem.

And why do you hate Taurus/Scorpio so much?

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I'm so cappy
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posted January 29, 2014 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Mercurian Intellect
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posted January 29, 2014 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
[b] I hardly ever see Libra talked about in a positive manner.

Everyone seems to hate that sign on here for some reason. (excluding Starlight, Barbie and MAYBE some others)



DeepFreeze certainly doesn't hate Libra. My favorite placement of all would be Venus in Libra. [/B][/QUOTE]

Yeah, DeepFreeze, too

I did say MAYBE some others, lol.

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summerlite
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posted January 29, 2014 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for summerlite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
And why do you hate Taurus/Scorpio so much?

omg you can't even keep to the topic.

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted January 29, 2014 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by summerlite:
omg you can't even keep to the topic.

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LoVeLy
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posted January 29, 2014 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoVeLy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Or what is going on?
People everywhere on this forum is trying to degrade virgo to being ruled by some unimportant asteroid no one cares for, or they try to make some kind of competition between virgo and gemini, just so we all know how cool gemini is and how un-cool virgo is.
And everywhere in topics I see comments about how boring, uninteresting and annoying virgos are.

This is not even the first time I make this kind of topic myself. I'm a virgo sun, and I feel a bit loyal to my sun-sign, cause I really think people treat us unfairly in here. It's like people get so absorbed by astrology therms, that they forget to observe people from the real world. Cause have you seen the majority of virgos in the real world? They are not annoying, boring or uninteresting.
Maybe we get nervous, but that is because we think so much about everything. But I have never in my life met a mean virgo. And I don't say this just because I am a virgo myself.

So I don't get why you all have to talk so badly about a sign that has never done anything to you.
Please stop it, this forum used to be nice.


Virgo is FABULOUS <3 IGNORE THE HATERS lol
We are far from boring and annoying
MJ, Keanu Reeve, Beyonce, Cameron Diaz and so many other fab people are Virgos
We are kind, helpful and perfectionists and so many other amazing things
I'm on my phone right now but I'll post extracts from one of Linda Goodman's books later, all the cool things about Virgos

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filleaspirant
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posted January 29, 2014 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I suppose you had my thread on mind.

I think nexttoneptune had Gemini vs Virgo thread in mind as well, Cappy. On top of that, she probably read some comments in other threads where there was some Virgo bashing, too. I don't think the whole issue of her (?) problem is just your thread.

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I'm so cappy
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posted January 29, 2014 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know.

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posted January 29, 2014 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoVeLy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
I think nexttoneptune had Gemini vs Virgo thread in mind as well, Cappy. On top of that, she probably read some comments in other threads where there was some Virgo bashing, too. I don't think the whole issue of her (?) problem is just your thread.

Can you post the link please
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filleaspirant
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posted January 29, 2014 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LoVeLy:
Can you post the link please
thank you

Sorry, I would post the link, but that thread has been quiet for the last few days and I don't want to bump it and flare tempers again.

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LoVeLy
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posted January 29, 2014 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoVeLy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Found it

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filleaspirant
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posted January 29, 2014 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LoVeLy:
Found it

Oh, you meant the Gemini vs Virgo thread. Yeah, that one's still up and going.

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Panthera Leo
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posted January 29, 2014 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panthera Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Ehem...
Ceres = goddess
Pallas = Athena = goddess
Vesta = goddess

According to wikipedia all of them are minor planets.

Enjoy the whining.


BELIEVE IT OR NOT I ALL READY KNEW THEY KNEW WERE ALL GODDESSES.I ACTUALLY LIKE CERES,PALLAS AND VESTA.I DIDN'T WANT TO SAY I WAS OK WITH CERES,PALLAS OR VESTA RULING VIRGO BUT THAT I WASN'T OK WITH CHIRON RULING IT INCASE THAT ANNOYED NEXT TO NEPTUNE.I WAS RATHER LAZY AND USED THE WORD ASTEROIDS.ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK I REFERRED TO ANY SPECIFIC MINOR PLANETS.IT ALSO WAS NOT MY INTENTION TO SUGGEST THAT CERES,PALLAS OR VESTA WERE IRRELEVANT WHEN I SAID "I agree that it is awful that people suggest it is ruled by useless asteroids when the rest get ruled by planets and minor planets named after Gods".PERHAPS I SHOULD HAVE ALSO SHOULD SAID DWARF PLANET INSTEAD OF SAYING MINOR PLANETS WHEN REFERRING TO PLUTO.


I AM SURPRISED ANYONE CAN GET A CHANCE TO WHINE WITH ALL THE WHINING THAT YOU DO.YOU HAVE A NERVE TO ACCUSE ME OF WHINING.YOU ALSO HAVE A NERVE TO ACCUSE ANYONE ELSE OF WHINING.WHEN IT COMES TO WHINING YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE SINCE YOU WHINE JUST AS LOUD WHEN YOU FEEL LIKE IT.
SO PLEASE GO KICK ROCKS IN WHATEVER PIT OF HELL YOU YOU CRAWLED OUT OF.

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PixieJane
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posted January 29, 2014 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All the signs and placements get trashed...usually started by someone who just got burned or broken up with or thinking of a terrible relative with that placement (and thus hating on that person but taking it out on just one placement that person possesses) and posts if others think they're that terrible and they usually get a lot of "yes, I noticed that, too." I have to wonder how people manage to learn so much about that placement from people they universally (or close enough) can't stand. ("You're such a malicious, two-faced ***** , are you, by chance, Mars in Taurus, Sun in Virgo? I knew it!")

And offhand I don't get the impression Virgo gets talked about much. If anything I'd guess Virgo is the most ignored sign, though it's a close race with Taurus.

I think the sign to get trashed the most without being defended is Cancer. That's just my impression anyway.

The one sign that gets trashed more than Cancer is Scorpio though that's balanced by how many love (or at least fascinated with) them. Interesting enough, a few believe the worst about them but that's why they love them, if that makes sense.

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posted January 29, 2014 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's a repost I did when I got to making fun of people mocking placements yet again, and not just one but people were jumping in with all sorts of placements with harsh views (hilariously enough at least one person seemed to think I was being serious rather than tongue in cheek when I posted this):

Aries: loud mouth egotists, but fun to trip (especially if they're on crutches). Unless after a cheap slapstick laugh then avoid at all cost.

Taurus: Stubborn to a fault, will steal your food if you leave it unattended and sniff your underclothes if they think they can get away with it. Good to unleash in china shops for a laugh and to send to people you don't like who haven't learned to guard their food and underwear but otherwise avoid at all cost.

Gemini: Meaningless jibber jabber who talk so much meaningless **** that it's like their faces are farting (the more annoying ones will snap their fingers at you at the same time) and will narrate the hell out of life with offhand judgments ("I think I see 3 flies, you obviously need a screen door...***** "). Unless you're looking for a trashy talk show host then avoid at all cost.

Cancer: Sucks thumb. Will hide from the cruel world behind you if you allow it but then give you the silent treatment. Tend to catch crabs so be careful sleeping with them. Unless you need a good cook then avoid at all cost.

Leo: Arrogant ***** . I'd say more but that would be giving them more attention than they deserve. But the look on their faces when they get a pie or tomato in the face is worth it (slingshots and guns can be fun to use on them, too). Unless needing human target practice then avoid at all cost.

Virgo: repressed, self-righteous twits who even clean their own soap. Unless you're looking for a nanny to torment your kids with then avoid at all cost.

Libra: Those aren't scales, those are the faces they switch between. Not sure if the women really do tend strongly to bisexuality and men to outright homosexuality or if they simply figured they can use their mouths for something other than words to get their way. Unless you're looking for a ***** skilled with his/her mouth then avoid at all cost.

Scorpio: Gods, their incessant whining never ceases, even the Crabs and Fishes are made of sterner stuff. Of course their fragility makes them overcompensate so they try to come off as tougher and meaner than they are. They can be fun to torment for this reason, but secretly of course to maximize their innate paranoia. Unless looking to sadistically torment someone who richly deserves it even more than the other signs then avoid at all cost.

Sagittarius: These people think they're funny when they're not. And travel? More like running from responsibility which they will never accept. Keep them away from horses, otherwise they can make even the perverted Libra and Scorpio blush. They make good scapegoats, however, everyone instinctively blames them for everything, and more often than not they deserve it. Unless looking for a scapegoat for your own **** up, however, then avoid at all cost.

Capricorn: these greedy perverts can be fun because they expected you to exploit and abuse them in the first place and will overlook what a complete mess you are if you've got enough money and influence, but better do onto them before they do onto you. These people suck on stage, especially in magic acts (with the notable exception of putting them in a box with all the money from the ticket sales in which case the Cappie and the money will never be seen again, and nobody has yet figured out how they do it). If these people have less status then you then using and abusing them is fine but otherwise avoid at all cost.

Aquarius: They say they want a better world but what they mean is a better world for them at your expense. They also tend to not be swayed by emotional manipulation which is really annoying. Unless your computer freezes up and your clicking your mouse a hundred times doesn't seem to do the trick (unlike you they're not a complete moron when it comes to technology and might just be able to help you out here assuming you can resist strangling them before they fix the problem) then avoid at all cost.

Pisces: These people put pyramids over their heads to make them smarter which goes to show just how hopeless they all are. And the only way to win their love is not to love them, but should you love them then they'll dump you for someone who will treat them bad because they're not happy unless they're crying in misery (almost as bad as the Scorpio, though not quite). Unless you just want to vent some aggression by drowning someone who richly deserves it then avoid at all cost.

I declare this thread victorious and Lindaland can now be shut down for having fulfilled its destiny.

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posted January 29, 2014 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturiann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Cancer Virgo and probably Cap get the most hate

;_; these are all my placements...

I definitely understand where this is coming from though (the topic of the thread) because having those placements, especially cancer and virgo, whenever I read a bunch of descriptions for all of the signs on a website, cancer and virgo would always have more negative descriptions than any of the other signs, it just gets old and feels unfair when it seems like people will only highlight the good in other signs without mentioning any of the bad, then we get to cancer or virgo and its gotta be all like "let me excuse them for their negative traits because blah blah blah these people may be a little bit ____" and its like b*tch, if you're going to write some negative **** about one or the other sign, then you better include some negative **** in ALL of the signs, im talking if you're like a published writer or even on a website if you are trying to be professional about it. your opinion is your opinion but when you go about teaching astrology to others with biases like that it becomes dangerous because of the assumptions people will so quickly make without fully understanding the depth behind each of the archetypes.

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posted January 29, 2014 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canadiangirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do agree, there are more negative traits listed on here about Virgo and Cancer than other signs.

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posted January 29, 2014 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Virgos are the last ones to be black sheep. They are kinda like aquarius: boorrring. I'm aquarius btw

Certain signs are always gonna be popular but popularity doesn't mean anything. I don't want to be a Leo, or Libra or Scorp. Take that back, maybe Scorp

It's human nature to avoid discussing things that are hard and serious. Ppl just want to talk about love and sex.

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posted January 29, 2014 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canadiangirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heh, come to think of it Aquarius has a hard time on here too. I remember several threads about some Aquas not committing to their partner.

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posted January 29, 2014 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fireopal09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Virgo ascendant here. Virgo energy is definitely overlooked. I read an article on Sasstrology about Virgo, the sacred Vestal Virgins, Vesta (1st house for me) and how they are self contained. There is beauty and healing in Virgos. I have been told my mere presence is healing/comforting. We are the trauma nurses of the zodiac. We are unsung badasses.

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