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posted January 29, 2014 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lunatic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Here's a repost I did when I got to making fun of people mocking placements yet again, and not just one but people were jumping in with all sorts of placements with harsh views (hilariously enough at least one person seemed to think I was being serious rather than tongue in cheek when I posted this):

[b]Aries: loud mouth egotists, but fun to trip (especially if they're on crutches). Unless after a cheap slapstick laugh then avoid at all cost.

Taurus: Stubborn to a fault, will steal your food if you leave it unattended and sniff your underclothes if they think they can get away with it. Good to unleash in china shops for a laugh and to send to people you don't like who haven't learned to guard their food and underwear but otherwise avoid at all cost.

Gemini: Meaningless jibber jabber who talk so much meaningless **** that it's like their faces are farting (the more annoying ones will snap their fingers at you at the same time) and will narrate the hell out of life with offhand judgments ("I think I see 3 flies, you obviously need a screen door...***** "). Unless you're looking for a trashy talk show host then avoid at all cost.

Cancer: Sucks thumb. Will hide from the cruel world behind you if you allow it but then give you the silent treatment. Tend to catch crabs so be careful sleeping with them. Unless you need a good cook then avoid at all cost.

Leo: Arrogant ***** . I'd say more but that would be giving them more attention than they deserve. But the look on their faces when they get a pie or tomato in the face is worth it (slingshots and guns can be fun to use on them, too). Unless needing human target practice then avoid at all cost.

Virgo: repressed, self-righteous twits who even clean their own soap. Unless you're looking for a nanny to torment your kids with then avoid at all cost.

Libra: Those aren't scales, those are the faces they switch between. Not sure if the women really do tend strongly to bisexuality and men to outright homosexuality or if they simply figured they can use their mouths for something other than words to get their way. Unless you're looking for a ***** skilled with his/her mouth then avoid at all cost.

Scorpio: Gods, their incessant whining never ceases, even the Crabs and Fishes are made of sterner stuff. Of course their fragility makes them overcompensate so they try to come off as tougher and meaner than they are. They can be fun to torment for this reason, but secretly of course to maximize their innate paranoia. Unless looking to sadistically torment someone who richly deserves it even more than the other signs then avoid at all cost.

Sagittarius: These people think they're funny when they're not. And travel? More like running from responsibility which they will never accept. Keep them away from horses, otherwise they can make even the perverted Libra and Scorpio blush. They make good scapegoats, however, everyone instinctively blames them for everything, and more often than not they deserve it. Unless looking for a scapegoat for your own **** up, however, then avoid at all cost.

Capricorn: these greedy perverts can be fun because they expected you to exploit and abuse them in the first place and will overlook what a complete mess you are if you've got enough money and influence, but better do onto them before they do onto you. These people suck on stage, especially in magic acts (with the notable exception of putting them in a box with all the money from the ticket sales in which case the Cappie and the money will never be seen again, and nobody has yet figured out how they do it). If these people have less status then you then using and abusing them is fine but otherwise avoid at all cost.

Aquarius: They say they want a better world but what they mean is a better world for them at your expense. They also tend to not be swayed by emotional manipulation which is really annoying. Unless your computer freezes up and your clicking your mouse a hundred times doesn't seem to do the trick (unlike you they're not a complete moron when it comes to technology and might just be able to help you out here assuming you can resist strangling them before they fix the problem) then avoid at all cost.

Pisces: These people put pyramids over their heads to make them smarter which goes to show just how hopeless they all are. And the only way to win their love is not to love them, but should you love them then they'll dump you for someone who will treat them bad because they're not happy unless they're crying in misery (almost as bad as the Scorpio, though not quite). Unless you just want to vent some aggression by drowning someone who richly deserves it then avoid at all cost.

I declare this thread victorious and Lindaland can now be shut down for having fulfilled its destiny.

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This is so funny!! It must come from a scorpio, I can detect sarcasm..

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posted January 29, 2014 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Here's a repost I did when I got to making fun of people mocking placements yet again, and not just one but people were jumping in with all sorts of placements with harsh views (hilariously enough at least one person seemed to think I was being serious rather than tongue in cheek when I posted this):

[b]Aries: loud mouth egotists, but fun to trip (especially if they're on crutches). Unless after a cheap slapstick laugh then avoid at all cost.

Taurus: Stubborn to a fault, will steal your food if you leave it unattended and sniff your underclothes if they think they can get away with it. Good to unleash in china shops for a laugh and to send to people you don't like who haven't learned to guard their food and underwear but otherwise avoid at all cost.

Gemini: Meaningless jibber jabber who talk so much meaningless **** that it's like their faces are farting (the more annoying ones will snap their fingers at you at the same time) and will narrate the hell out of life with offhand judgments ("I think I see 3 flies, you obviously need a screen door...***** "). Unless you're looking for a trashy talk show host then avoid at all cost.

Cancer: Sucks thumb. Will hide from the cruel world behind you if you allow it but then give you the silent treatment. Tend to catch crabs so be careful sleeping with them. Unless you need a good cook then avoid at all cost.

Leo: Arrogant ***** . I'd say more but that would be giving them more attention than they deserve. But the look on their faces when they get a pie or tomato in the face is worth it (slingshots and guns can be fun to use on them, too). Unless needing human target practice then avoid at all cost.

Virgo: repressed, self-righteous twits who even clean their own soap. Unless you're looking for a nanny to torment your kids with then avoid at all cost.

Libra: Those aren't scales, those are the faces they switch between. Not sure if the women really do tend strongly to bisexuality and men to outright homosexuality or if they simply figured they can use their mouths for something other than words to get their way. Unless you're looking for a ***** skilled with his/her mouth then avoid at all cost.

Scorpio: Gods, their incessant whining never ceases, even the Crabs and Fishes are made of sterner stuff. Of course their fragility makes them overcompensate so they try to come off as tougher and meaner than they are. They can be fun to torment for this reason, but secretly of course to maximize their innate paranoia. Unless looking to sadistically torment someone who richly deserves it even more than the other signs then avoid at all cost.

Sagittarius: These people think they're funny when they're not. And travel? More like running from responsibility which they will never accept. Keep them away from horses, otherwise they can make even the perverted Libra and Scorpio blush. They make good scapegoats, however, everyone instinctively blames them for everything, and more often than not they deserve it. Unless looking for a scapegoat for your own **** up, however, then avoid at all cost.

Capricorn: these greedy perverts can be fun because they expected you to exploit and abuse them in the first place and will overlook what a complete mess you are if you've got enough money and influence, but better do onto them before they do onto you. These people suck on stage, especially in magic acts (with the notable exception of putting them in a box with all the money from the ticket sales in which case the Cappie and the money will never be seen again, and nobody has yet figured out how they do it). If these people have less status then you then using and abusing them is fine but otherwise avoid at all cost.

Aquarius: They say they want a better world but what they mean is a better world for them at your expense. They also tend to not be swayed by emotional manipulation which is really annoying. Unless your computer freezes up and your clicking your mouse a hundred times doesn't seem to do the trick (unlike you they're not a complete moron when it comes to technology and might just be able to help you out here assuming you can resist strangling them before they fix the problem) then avoid at all cost.

Pisces: These people put pyramids over their heads to make them smarter which goes to show just how hopeless they all are. And the only way to win their love is not to love them, but should you love them then they'll dump you for someone who will treat them bad because they're not happy unless they're crying in misery (almost as bad as the Scorpio, though not quite). Unless you just want to vent some aggression by drowning someone who richly deserves it then avoid at all cost.

I declare this thread victorious and Lindaland can now be shut down for having fulfilled its destiny.

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LOL

THAT made me laugh so bad, tears are streaming down my face!!

OMG thank you.

This whole thread is a park of amusement to me

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posted January 29, 2014 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To me aquarius is.

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posted January 30, 2014 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by arcturiann:
;_; these are all my placements...

I definitely understand where this is coming from though (the topic of the thread) because having those placements, especially cancer and virgo, whenever I read a bunch of descriptions for all of the signs on a website, cancer and virgo would always have more negative descriptions than any of the other signs, it just gets old and feels unfair when it seems like people will only highlight the good in other signs without mentioning any of the bad, then we get to cancer or virgo and its gotta be all like "let me excuse them for their negative traits because blah blah blah these people may be a little bit ____" and its like b*tch, if you're going to write some negative **** about one or the other sign, then you better include some negative **** in ALL of the signs, im talking if you're like a published writer or even on a website if you are trying to be professional about it. your opinion is your opinion but when you go about teaching astrology to others with biases like that it becomes dangerous because of the assumptions people will so quickly make without fully understanding the depth behind each of the archetypes.


Yes, you're getting the core of this problem…

Cause this is what I felt like when I first got into astrology. I felt like my Virgo sun was boring. So I remembered my father once told me I had a pisces moon in the last degree and a cancer rising. I was excited cause now I could find out my time of birth and discover the rest of my placement.
But what did I found out?

A lot of cancer, more virgo, scorpio…and….capricorn. That's my whole chart. Just ONE air sign, my libra mercury.

So can you imagine what it was like to get into astrology?
It was with the assumption that my chart is worthless, I'm boring, I'm not interesting…it was actually kinda destroying my self-confidence a lot, cause it was hard for me to look at the bright side!

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posted January 30, 2014 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I've read negative things about all the signs and have probably posted something negative about every one of them because life has some negativity in it. There are good things, of course, but you have to come to terms with the bad because this is how we grow, not by sweeping it all under the rug but by confronting the dark side.

Well… isn't there enough bad things in this world… why learn about astrology if it only causes you to get low self-confidence… the water and earth sign doesn't have lots of it naturally…they are not the types that needs a lot of place, you know… they are not "getting in the way" and is dominating like fire and air signs are… so why do we always have to get another knock in the head?
I think earth and water deserves a better treatment in general, and their qualities should be more highlighted than they are now…

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posted January 30, 2014 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Well… isn't there enough bad things in this world… why learn about astrology if it only causes you to get low self-confidence… the water and earth sign doesn't have lots of it naturally…they are not the types that needs a lot of place, you know… they are not "getting in the way" and is dominating like fire and air signs are… so why do we always have to get another knock in the head?
I think earth and water deserves a better treatment in general, and their qualities should be more highlighted than they are now…



I still think you should type your own description! If you cannot change what you dislike in other people's, just create your own and it will be written the way you want it. That's a great way to deal with it in my opinion.

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posted January 30, 2014 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Well… isn't there enough bad things in this world… why learn about astrology if it only causes you to get low self-confidence… the water and earth sign doesn't have lots of it naturally…they are not the types that needs a lot of place, you know… they are not "getting in the way" and is dominating like fire and air signs are… so why do we always have to get another knock in the head?
I think earth and water deserves a better treatment in general, and their qualities should be more highlighted than they are now…


Hey next to neptune,

I personally choose threads I'd like to contribute a post to because my time is precious. Sometimes I spend time writing a post to find it has not even been acknowledged. There could be a range of reasons why the person didn't acknowledge the post,however, am not the kind that will get upset over silly things like that. I simply don't care.next time I won't waste my time though.

But I care enough to tell you this :No one knows you better than you know yourself and no matter how much people, who are perfect strangers, bash your sun/moon signs on internet forums,it doesn't change that fact.Ignore it and just have fun on the time you choose to be on LL

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posted January 30, 2014 05:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:

I still think you should type your own description! If you cannot change what you dislike in other people's, just create your own and it will be written the way you want it. That's a great way to deal with it in my opinion.

Ok I'm gonna do that when I have more time, so later I will!

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posted January 30, 2014 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturiann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Yes, you're getting the core of this problem…

Cause this is what I felt like when I first got into astrology. I felt like my Virgo sun was boring. So I remembered my father once told me I had a pisces moon in the last degree and a cancer rising. I was excited cause now I could find out my time of birth and discover the rest of my placement.
But what did I found out?

A lot of cancer, more virgo, scorpio…and….capricorn. That's my whole chart. Just ONE air sign, my libra mercury.

So can you imagine what it was like to get into astrology?
It was with the assumption that my chart is worthless, I'm boring, I'm not interesting…it was actually kinda destroying my self-confidence a lot, cause it was hard for me to look at the bright side!


Oh man I know exactly what you mean @__@ I got really discouraged with astrology at first because I just kept reading negative interpretations everywhere online :\ doesn't exactly do much for my self esteem as a cancer-virgo when they make it sound like every other sign in the zodiac is better than you lol

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posted January 30, 2014 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canadiangirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look at the positive side of the signs. There should be good things associated with Virgo as well. I know cancer can be very nurturing and devoted to their families and friends.

I know its difficult but don't let the negative comments on the net get to you too much. It definitely shouldn't depress you because its just *their* opinion, it doesn't make it true. Besides, keep in mind that every trait that's listed for your sign doesn't necessarily apply to you.

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posted January 30, 2014 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There has been quite some dislike for Virgo lately. See the threads Neptune mentions. But to be fair, nearly every sign seems to go through a period of being made fun of, hated on, etc. for a while here.

As for what I think, the nagging and nitpicking can be annoying to me, especially when it happens on a bad day. But in their defence, you've got to have Virgo in your own chart to understand just how much of it is directed at themselves. If you knew what was going on inside their heads, you'd fall into depression before they're even halfway through.

It's a tough sign to have in your chart and it's a damn shame these traits seem to stand out more than the positives. A lot of them use their sense of precision to give you just the right gift, to listen to you carefully, offer the help you, specifically, need. A lot of their service is completely tailored to you and your needs, and that's something that I wish was said more often here!

I think the problem is that while they love (and maybe even need) to be someone's support, to help and listen, they do not like being taken advantage of. I know how easy it is to do that if someone offers it to you right there, but they will pick up on it eventually. What happens next depends on the rest of their planets.

And yeah, the criticism can be harsh. I admit that about myself too - when I'm angry, after having tried everything else to make it clear people keep crossing my boundaries. Their Mercurial side is all about being precise, and so are their complaints.

A lot of it will depend on their Mercury placement, though, which disposits their planets. And the aspects. I mean, inner planets in Libra, Cancer or Pisces would probably mean they'd keep things inside more or become irritable. Then put the same planets in Leo or Scorpio and you have someone who fights back. Planets in Gemini or Sag that square their Sun create a lot of energy as well, which needs an outlet. This can be used for the wrong reasons.

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posted January 30, 2014 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DrewMann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I prefer to think of us Virgo's as black wolves, not sheep.

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posted January 30, 2014 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by arcturiann:
Oh man I know exactly what you mean @__@ I got really discouraged with astrology at first because I just kept reading negative interpretations everywhere online :\ doesn't exactly do much for my self esteem as a cancer-virgo when they make it sound like every other sign in the zodiac is better than you lol

Yesss….I know this feeling very, very well!

Everytime I meet a confident cancer or virgo sun, I cannot stop feeling a bit proud of them:P

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posted January 30, 2014 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DrewMann:
I prefer to think of us Virgo's as black wolves, not sheep.

You got that right If we have to be the black-something, I prefer a wolf and not a sheep

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posted January 30, 2014 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Panthera Leo:
I AM SURPRISED ANYONE CAN GET A CHANCE TO WHINE WITH ALL THE WHINING THAT YOU DO.YOU HAVE A NERVE TO ACCUSE ME OF WHINING.YOU ALSO HAVE A NERVE TO ACCUSE ANYONE ELSE OF WHINING.WHEN IT COMES TO WHINING YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE SINCE YOU WHINE JUST AS LOUD WHEN YOU FEEL LIKE IT.
SO PLEASE GO KICK ROCKS IN WHATEVER PIT OF HELL YOU YOU CRAWLED OUT OF.

Huh?
Now show me a thread where I whined about people disliking my placements.

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I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.

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posted January 30, 2014 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panthera Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't even be bothered to go looking through threads.Perhaps if you weren't so sarcastic I wouldn't have told you to go to hell.

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posted January 30, 2014 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Then watch what you say.
Btw, you people take the negativity about your Sun sign a little too personally for Mercurians. Prove us Mercury is your true ruler and detach

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posted January 30, 2014 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panthera Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not actually a Virgo Sun im only a Virgo Moon.

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posted January 30, 2014 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panthera Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mind you it would be good if Capricorn could pull their heads out their own miserable ***** once in a while.

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posted January 30, 2014 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It would be good if you took a tranquilizer.

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posted January 30, 2014 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ugh, KNOCK IT OFF!!

Yes, I'm going to be that annoying teacher here and tell you to stop. I'm tired of all of this snapping at each other.

I know we're having that T-square/Grand Cross/whatever with lots of heavy transits, I know. I know we're all not feeling too good and it's not always possible to keep calm. I don't blame anyone here for having had enough.

But could we please try to see things from another POV instead of making sarcastic remarks? I think Panthera meant the "new rulers for Taurus and Virgo" thread, by the way, but maybe I'm wrong.

But you know what may be better? Just not argue anymore. It's like it's going nowhere. Some people think the complaints about Virgo are getting too far, then some of you will vehemently debate that they're just taking it too seriously. There's no middle ground.

It's like this whole thing is impossible.

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posted January 30, 2014 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Then watch what you say.
Btw, you people take the negativity about your Sun sign a little too personally for Mercurians. Prove us Mercury is your true ruler and detach

Sorry, but isn't detachment an Air quality? And more specifically an Aquarius quality?

As the Earth expression of Mercury, you get communication that is concrete in its form and can be added on for growth. I think you're just confusing the Air expression of Mercury with it being the only way to express that planet...

Do you have any Virgo in your chart, Cappy?

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posted January 30, 2014 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cappy's sarcasm can be funny. She has me convinced Mercury in Sagittarius is a natural commedianne's placement.
It's best not to take it seriously. Most the time it's light hearted anyway.

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posted January 30, 2014 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Cappy's sarcasm can be funny. She has me convinced Mercury in Sagittarius is a natural commedianne's placement.
It's best not to take it seriously. Most the time it's light hearted anyway.

That's the problem with Capricorn energy. Not everyone will take sarcasm the same way we expect them to take it.

I speak from experience, having Ascendant in Capricorn. I measure my words around not close people because of that, you know... My humour is not everyone's cup of tea.

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posted January 30, 2014 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
That's the problem with Capricorn energy. Not everyone will take sarcasm the same way we expect them to take it.

I speak from experience, having Ascendant in Capricorn. I measure my words around not close people because of that, you know... My humour is not everyone's cup of tea.


I usually like it, but today it's too much for me. And that's coming from someone who has a lot of Cap energy herself and often laughs at Cappy's comments.

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