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AlexDern
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posted January 31, 2014 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlexDern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

She also asked if I was a virgin and I said no...so I think she thought I was a virgin and I was easy pray....and when she found out I was quite a man's man...she was scared away, and realized her poison wouldn't infect me...I had become too mature, my anima too evolved, to go against my feelings.

So now I understand Lilith. Lilith projected by the male, and in turn created, is the woman who see's an easy kill, or a push over and uses him.

In this way she is also used by other men with tattoos...so the classic girl who falls for the bad boy stereotype is also the archetypal black widow who uses the nice guy, until the bad boy comes a long...

So Lilith used adam, in a sense, we can say she didn't want monogamy, and she even wanted to cheat on him...not an open relationship but rather more like a "treat me like i'm a virgin" even though I'm going to be the sacred ***** when you turn your back.

So Adam ditched Lilith and found Eve...who was more conventional...and in the end more fruitful as a mother because humans evolved biologically, ATOM AND ELECTRON, to have few children....


Please don't mistake this for sexism. I am all for woman's rights and equality, but I think the movement is sabotaged when Lilith is evoked...because Lilith is materialistic and only wants the money...where as Pallas Athena is quite fair and just and wise...


This is astonishing to me and quite a revelation. I never thought not being a virgin would put someone off...but I guess Lilith hunts virgin men and tries to suck the life out of them...LOL!

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posted February 01, 2014 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I honestly don't know if you're serious or not. But just in case you are then it doesn't make sense she blocked you if she was hunting you for being a virgin. It's like the venus flytraps don't put out a scent to drive away the flies but to intoxicate them and reel them in. If she was hunting you to drain you then she should've pretended to "think it sweet" or something and draw you in.

Sounds to me like what she said was true, you weren't compatible...either as a partner or as "prey."

Oh, and Lilith doesn't want money, she wants freedom...and maybe revenge depending on which version you're talking of.

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posted February 01, 2014 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Clever..
yes you figured lilithians out.
We drain the semen out of straight men and use it to birth our demonic spawn muahhahahaha

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AlexDern
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posted February 01, 2014 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlexDern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're misunderstanding because I didn't type clearly.

She asked if I was a virgin and then I said no.

And she didn't quite block me. I actually blocked her first because she said we weren't compatible but then I wondered why I don't just ask her and I did. She ignored me then blocked me right after in return.

The point is when she found out I wasn't a virgin she changed tone entirely.

The entire time we were talking, for almost a week, she kept coming on to me. She had a strange demeaning attitude too. Granted much of this was mutual projection on both of us the point is she exemplified Lilith.

And the reason I say that Lilith is materialistic is because the Femme Fatale is..but now I know that Lilith has other manifestations, such as art, and literature.

But Lilith has to be acknowledged for both her positives and negatives for the sake of objectivity don't you think? Because I see pallas athene as the one who galvanizes and crusades and is independent.

Lol Kerosene!

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posted February 01, 2014 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Newrise     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have some Lilith in synastry?

Have you considered that she may be a virgin and she may be looking for someone similar?

I am and it's very offputting to me, not in general, just in my mate, which I take on very seriously. I don't emphasize on it enough to ask potentials about their virginity but it's still offputting because for one reason or another it's important to me.

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posted February 01, 2014 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlexDern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm certain she wasn't a virgin. She mentioned sleeping with her Ex after meeting him on the site.

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posted February 01, 2014 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Simply put: no.

Not a bad try, though. Back to the drawing board!

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posted February 01, 2014 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for summerlite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lilith(BML) is equality, not sexual predator.

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posted February 01, 2014 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Huh?

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posted February 01, 2014 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for incognito     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think Lilith is after money either, she is after freedom and respect. Respect equal to that of a man. Women still don't have that in this world, they have to fight for power that is given to men as their birthright. You could see that as being unconventional. Lilith sees the inequality and it bothers her. Eve doesn't see it, or doesn't mind. Thats why its better for men to be with Eve, because she has accepted a subordinate position. Lilith wants to call the shots too. You can't have 2 alphas in a relationship

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posted February 01, 2014 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlexDern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I disagree. From what ice read on the net Pallas Athens is about equality, and Lilith is about betrayal, jealousy, and black mail.

The femme fatal. Own serves to promote inequality. Instead of getting to the root of the issue, the fatale focuses on her outward appearance, a very superficial thing relative to equality.

And the femme fatale is not only interested in money but the resources of the virgin male. Lilith is embodied when we see the vixon who has entrenched herself upon the naive virgin male type and sucks him dry.

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posted February 01, 2014 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pallas is not even about relationships and sexuality... it
it's about intellect and purity.

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posted February 01, 2014 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No bml does not WANT to call the shots.
but she will if you try and restrict her.
She wants to feel empowered and still be a woman.
She wants treated like an equal not a secondary citizen.

Also what is that girl going to do with a virgin child.
Sacrifice you to satan ...
I doubt she was even really a femme fatal but maybe someone who realized how pervy being with a child is?

Honestly you're not a challenge. She did'nt even try.
Did she actually come up to and try and seduce you? doubt it otherwise you would not be a virgin..
A femme fatal will try and break down someone who is actually formidable.
A powerful man with influence and experience.
Sorry to possibly crush your ego.

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posted February 01, 2014 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlexDern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not at all....I am quite powerful though. There's many different types of power. Mine is more stoic. I sacrifice quick gains for great windfalls in the long haul. Not exactly mr. Popular but definitely mr. Wise.


Anyways. I still hold she was embodying Lilith because she was fatalistic and wild.

And I do think there is an element of envy in Lilith which relates to wealth. After all I read several articles on the femme fatale archetype written by women and they mentioned this black widow aspect to Lilith. It's as you said, she tries to takedown powerful males to get back at the system.

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posted February 01, 2014 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't support this demonization of Lilith >_>

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posted February 01, 2014 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlexDern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well then let's speak of the positives of Lilith. She symbolizes independence, autonomy, inventiveness, and strength. I was only talking about the negatives thus far but let's talk about the positives. I don't want to demonize her either.

And let's not forget that men have Lilith too. In fact I strongly relate with her and she probably saved me from dating a monster.

I guess our Lilith can protect us against other people's Lilith.

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posted February 01, 2014 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for summerlite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lilith is the shadow side of your soul that you want to deny.

Lilith is the woman a guy wants, but stops himself from wanting because he has been brought up with the knowledge whether culturally or religiously that that woman isn't good for him. The reason why a guy fears Lilith is that is the side he doesn't dare to face or challenge. By owning lilith, it shows you have full control.


By ranting on lilith here, it shows you probably want her, or else she wouldn't have annoyed you so much.

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posted February 01, 2014 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlexDern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well....how do we own Lilith then and gain control. Thanks for your informative albeit rather blunt answer...

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posted February 01, 2014 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cappy1277     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I don't support this demonization of Lilith >_>


I don't either...I have lilith exactly conjunct my ascendant in taurus & I'm nothing like that.

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AlexDern
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posted February 01, 2014 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlexDern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Lilith trine mercury so I embody the male Lilith aspect.

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posted February 01, 2014 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlexDern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh wait I just figured it out. I was seducing her and projected Lilith upon her! How could I be so blind...I was the seducer.

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posted February 01, 2014 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlexDern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I just read here
http://mysticvirgo67.blog.com/musical-astrology/black-moon-lillith-the-***** /

That Lilith in a males chart is what challenges him.

For me, I could never be with a woman who just sits at home and is domesticated. So strangely enough my Lilith is actually the status quo eve. Very interesting.

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posted February 01, 2014 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lololol XD omg well at least this gives a good laugh. Yesss, Lilith women are after virgin boys and can't resist bad guys and uses nice guys, and they are also after your moneyyyyzzzzz. Sure, try to offer Lilith a diamond ring and tell her that you own her with the bad guy style, and see what she does to you with the diamond ring lolol.

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posted February 01, 2014 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlexDern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AriesLilith...

Why would anyone try to own a woman with a diamond ring. That doesn't make any sense...most men give their fiance a diamond ring as a symbol of love, not ownership, albeit I Can admit some very powerful people do...but for the most part, the diamond ring is accepted by the woman, not forced upon her.


Again, lilith is as much in men as women...the women try to own their men too, and mark them as territories...there are not only emaciated female models but male models too..
And we're actually seeing males start to rebel against the matriarchy...

We are seeing men who are exploring their sexuality to the limits and no longer relying on monogamy for pleasure.

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posted February 01, 2014 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
edit lol nevermind.. I don't think "owning" Lilith for a male means the same thing...

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