posted February 06, 2014 11:27 AM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
I'm not sure about this yet. I'm still learning. But, although I agree our looks come from genetics, I think the influence is relative to others with the same genetics/culture, etc.

You may have the same genetics but some are prettier, darker/lighter, have pointer chins, etc in comparison to others in the family/village/ethnic group, etc.

Maybe. Don't know yet. But I do think it's fun to explore this issue.

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Yeah, that was kinda what I was thinking as to how it can make sense. Like your new genetics that aren't environmental and are a new trait in passing down genes, come from Astrology, maybe? As I am not a Biologist, so I do not know all about this stuff, meaning if there is a reason as to how we receive the new traits that are different from hereditary and aren't because of environmental evolution.

I mean, PlutoFish said Astrology evolves our physical features as a whole over time, but I don't know, I'm rather really skeptical. That's what comes down to genetics and evolution, I believe.

posted February 06, 2014 11:29 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I know natural selection and genes determine what you look like but this can be reflected in the planets, sun, moon, rising sign. I can see certain patterns. Even in my own chart, I have discovered them. My mother is a Leo sun, I have Venus there. Father is a solar Sagittarius, natal Mars is in that sign. Mother has twelfth house stellium, so do I. Father has a Pisces moon, I have the stellium, previously mentioned. I also have Jupiter rising, Mercury conjunct it and Mercury in the Sagittarius duad of Libra.
Last but not least, my mother has a major Virgo stellium including the moon and I have a Virgo sun and south node. Father has Pisces moon, I have the north node there. See all the coincidences? It's how we are genetically related.

What about your parents, John? You might have already mentioned it...your mom is a Cancer, right? Does she have anything in Leo?

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posted February 06, 2014 03:54 PM            

Then there's a matter of manipulative judgement - which is quite specific to Vigos, not the kind you see at Scorpio - which can imply a trigger (Scorpio: ooh, so you're like that Victim: Noo, i'm like this) - but something more tactical in nature that kinda reminds me of "posthypnotic suggestions." Take this topic for example:

Gemini people = weird mouths

With above mix in mind - one would try to look at it in such way. The thing is - even if you'd look at pictures of Virgos (while presuming that they're Gemini) - you'd try to find something weird about their mouths.

posted February 06, 2014 04:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Yeah, that was kinda what I was thinking as to how it can make sense. Like your new genetics that aren't environmental and are a new trait in passing down genes, come from Astrology, maybe? As I am not a Biologist, so I do not know all about this stuff, meaning if there is a reason as to how we receive the new traits that are different from hereditary and aren't because of environmental evolution.

I mean, PlutoFish said Astrology evolves our physical features as a whole over time, but I don't know, I'm rather really skeptical. That's what comes down to genetics and evolution, I believe.

I agree, it is fun too, but hard for me to try to, as I am rather skeptical, lol. Not because it's Astrology, but because I pretty sure genetics are defined quite well already. (I'm not sure, though, as I said, I'm no Biologist)

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posted February 06, 2014 05:03 PM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
There's also such thing as - obsessing over something (even exaggeratedly) and - choosing to see that something in a certain way - that's mainly "all in your head". Virgos are well known - for their obsession with details, so - their way of judging someone - tends to imply a certain detail (in this case " weird mouths)."

Then there's a matter of manipulative judgement - which is quite specific to Vigos, not the kind you see at Scorpio - which can imply a trigger (Scorpio: ooh, so you're like that Victim: Noo, i'm like this) - but something more tactical in nature that kinda reminds me of "posthypnotic suggestions." Take this topic for example:

Gemini people = weird mouths

With above mix in mind - one would try to look at it in such way. The thing is - even if you'd look at pictures of Virgos (while presuming that they're Gemini) - you'd try to find something weird about their mouths.

Weird/Odd - terms that imply abnormality to the extant of alienation (they're not like us - humans). OP look in the mirror - you might something really odd about your mouth. If you don't see it - you're not focusing enough. It's there - i can't see it even without looking at you, something - you try to project maybe.

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lol so true.

posted February 06, 2014 05:17 PM              

Omg please don't reproduce? lol jk but not really -_-
I am serious.. What is wrong with you I mean I am assuming none of you are uneducated.... This why is im very shocked....
Sometimes I can't deal with this forum.
Close your laptop and go and read a biology textbook if need be...

I will be open minded and say with your argument.
The most important chart defining your appearance is your conception chart.... so perhaps you can study that and get back to me.. I actually know my conception date!
As you are conceived your genetic code is set and locked. Also in the womb is when your develop which happens to be before your birth and again be attributed to your conception chart. Hypothetically speaking
I do believe environment which is closely related to astrology can shape your image..

posted February 06, 2014 05:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
People who believe astrology influences genetics..

Omg please don't reproduce? lol jk but not really -_-
I am serious.. What is wrong with you I mean I am assuming none of you are uneducated.... This why is am very shocked....
Sometimes I can't deal with this forum.
Close your laptop and go and read a biology textbook if need be...

I will be open minded and say with your argument.
The most important chart defining your appearance is your conception chart.... so perhaps you can study that and get back to me.. I actually know my conception date!
As you are conceived your genetic code is set and locked. Also in the womb is when your develop which happens to be before your birth and again be attributed to your conception chart. Hypothetically speaking
I do believe environment which is closely related to astrology can shape your image..

if you tan, scars, broken noses, plastic surgery, hair, sometimes weight etc.
but features like the shape if your nose, and width of your lips are genetics..

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posted February 06, 2014 05:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Maybe that applies to you but I know plenty of people who share nothing with their parents. So yeah that theory is irrelevant.... and there are only 12 signs in the zodiac so you can do the probability for yourself.

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posted February 06, 2014 05:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
People who believe astrology influences genetics..

Omg please don't reproduce? lol jk but not really -_-
I am serious.. What is wrong with you I mean I am assuming none of you are uneducated.... This why is im very shocked....
Sometimes I can't deal with this forum.
Close your laptop and go and read a biology textbook if need be...

I will be open minded and say with your argument.
The most important chart defining your appearance is your conception chart.... so perhaps you can study that and get back to me.. I actually know my conception date!
As you are conceived your genetic code is set and locked. Also in the womb is when your develop which happens to be before your birth and again be attributed to your conception chart. Hypothetically speaking
I do believe environment which is closely related to astrology can shape your image..

if you tan, scars, broken noses, plastic surgery, hair, sometimes weight etc.
but features like the shape if your nose, and width of your lips are genetics..
But spiritually it's easy to guess someones sign!
It's the way they project themselves really and little things like their fashion hair makeup etc.
Because people come in all shape in sizes in all signs lol

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I don't think anyone said the astrology not genetics defines what you look like, but perhaps it influences what you look like. I don't know.

But looking at it with the people I know, what about siblings who don't have the same features? I haven't done a scientific study on this, but my brothers and I have the same genetics but we look completely different.

I have a pointy chin with big forehead, yellow-ish almond eyes and black hair. I vaguely look like Prince up there which is why I guessed he was scorpio asc like me.

One brother has a round face with large googley eyes and is short and stocky (5'8"). The other is tall and thin with a horsy face and small eyes (6'0").

I'm the best looking one of the three and I have Venus in the 1st. So although I'm not classically beautiful nor particularly beautiful compared to the general population, in relation to my genetically similar siblings I'm the best looking. Same genetics.

Even my ex husband and his brother a very different looking. My ex is the more "classically" beautiful of the two and he has Libra rising while the other has Aries rising (IIRC). My ex has a classic soft look while his brother has a very rugged sort of bad boy look. And I'm not talking about the way they dress. They both wear more or less the same thing.

Yes. I know, it's a small sampling, not a scientific study! lol

I'm not saying it's 100% true. Neither am I sure astrology in general is 100% true. I'm just exploring the ideas behind it. I've said it before that genetics will obviously define what you look like over all, maybe, who knows, astrology might influence what you look like relative to other in the same family/culture/ethnicity?

BTW, You do know that some people would suggest that anyone into astrology must not be very educated, right?

posted February 06, 2014 06:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
are you just making up arguments on top of your head? lol.

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posted February 06, 2014 06:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
People who believe astrology influences genetics..

Omg please don't reproduce? lol jk but not really -_-
I am serious.. What is wrong with you I mean I am assuming none of you are uneducated.... This why is im very shocked....
Sometimes I can't deal with this forum.
Close your laptop and go and read a biology textbook if need be...

I will be open minded and say with your argument.
The most important chart defining your appearance is your conception chart.... so perhaps you can study that and get back to me.. I actually know my conception date!
As you are conceived your genetic code is set and locked. Also in the womb is when your develop which happens to be before your birth and again be attributed to your conception chart. Hypothetically speaking
I do believe environment which is closely related to astrology can shape your image..

if you tan, scars, broken noses, plastic surgery, hair, sometimes weight etc.
but features like the shape if your nose, and width of your lips are genetics..
But spiritually it's easy to guess someones sign!
It's the way they project themselves really and little things like their fashion hair makeup etc.
Because people come in all shape in sizes in all signs lol

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I agree with you.
But allow me to drop some few things. The DNA code undergoes a lot of changes while the baby is in the womb. While the fetus is in the womb, it would be affected to his mother's hormonal change, which in turn will stirr a change/alteration/modification in the DNA expression(the DNA sequence stays the same, though).So much to explain in terms of chemistry but I will keep it simple.

posted February 06, 2014 06:06 PM            

You're kidding

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posted February 06, 2014 06:07 PM              

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:

BTW, You do know that some people would suggest that anyone into astrology must not be very educated, right?

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posted February 06, 2014 06:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Are you trying to be witty?
Astrology is faith not a science..

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No. I'm not at all. I never said it was a science. What I said is that there are plenty of people who think that anyone who believes in astrology is not all together and/or is just uneducated. I'd be surprised if you didn't run into that in your life.

posted February 06, 2014 06:15 PM              

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Originally posted by vickymadness:
I agree with you.
But allow me to drop some few things. The DNA code undergoes a lot of changes while the baby is in the womb. While the fetus is in the womb, it would be affected to his mother's hormonal change, which in turn will stirr a change/alteration/modification in the DNA expression(the DNA sequence stays the same, though).So much to explain in terms of chemistry but I will keep it simple.

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Exactly.
so what do you think about the conception chart because logically that moment starts the entire development in the womb

We can say that the birth chart is related to the soul=psyche.

posted February 06, 2014 06:19 PM              

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
No. I'm not at all. I never said it was a science. What I said is that there are plenty of people who think that anyone who believes in astrology is not all together and/or is just uneducated. I'd be surprised if you didn't run into that in your life.

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posted February 06, 2014 06:20 PM              

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Who said anything about ignoring science? I didn't say the sun, moon planets are your parents I just said I inherited Sagittarius genes from my father and if you look at me and my natal chart, you can see it.

Did you know you are made of star dust?

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What does a Sagittarius look like?

posted February 06, 2014 06:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Exactly.
so what do you think about the conception chart because logically that moment starts the entire development in the womb

We can say that the birth chart is related to the soul=psyche.

I have an open mind but I'm not not going to ignore science and just go along with some medieval logic.

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You've said nothing about my example of same genetics producing very different looking people though. And... most of astrology is medieval logic....

posted February 06, 2014 06:25 PM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:

But looking at it with the people I know, what about siblings who don't have the same features? I haven't done a scientific study on this, but my brothers and I have the same genetics but we look completely different.

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Wow sure you did not do any study. Siblings have the same copies of genes, but not the same ARRANGEMENT. And the arrangement/sequence of the DNA is what makes your genetic code "unique". No one in this world has your genome code.

Add: in case you were wondering how different arrangements are produced, it's done by a process called " crossing-over".