posted February 14, 2014 02:54 AM            

We come here from a collective past experience represented by our South Node and move forward toward our North Node to balance our experience, all for our own individual soul's development, according to these books.

If we can move away from what is most comfortable for us and take the best qualities of our South Node forward we will have half the battle won. Then if we can embrace new life experience based on our North Node we will grow our souls in a conscious way.

A lot of folks i know are really good at releasing SN tendencies that are holding them back, or really good at developing new NN tendencies, but not real successful doing both.

posted February 14, 2014 09:21 AM            

It's free online, so if you're curious, just enter your birthday and be sure to include the year. The section that begins with "Way" is about your nodal axis.
www.thesecretlanguage.com

The Secret Language books divide the year into 48 signs, and likewise divides each nodal axis. So for example, there is not one kind of Scorpio NN but five, in that system. Ditto for the other signs.

posted February 14, 2014 11:46 AM            

But not all will relate to their NN/SN's sign position with the same intensity, just like any other element's sign positions. It depends a lot on the house, the aspects to it, and even the aspects to their rulers.

posted February 14, 2014 07:30 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Thanks, Faith! It's quite accurate.

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Glad you liked it!

posted February 14, 2014 07:44 PM            

Jeff Green has a slightly different vision of things if I understand correctly - in Evolutionary astrology, they use Pluto as the soul's significator (desires and what motivates us) and the Nodes represent our ways of getting our desires met. Something like that... I haven't read his work yet but planning on doing it.

But in any case, the North Node is a crucial point in our chart because it's supposed to make us grow and bring us positive things (based on our soul's urge to evolve) so it's important to pay attention to it.

Personally I can see myself in my SN a whole lot, but I'm also very drawn to my NN. I can feel the pull but it's very, very difficult to follow that path.

My Nodes square my Moon/Chiron conjunction so it's not an easy path. I feel like pain and frustration are inevitable and it's quite disheartening. But, what can you do? Gotta keep going.

Faith

Thanks for putting that link on here.

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Originally posted by Randall:
I'm always being pulled in two diametrically opposed directions.

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Me tooooo. It's so frustrating!
My Sag NN contradicts *everything* in my chart. What a challenge, eh.

posted February 14, 2014 09:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Oh really? Hm maybe you're picking up on the Gem instead but I guess that's a good thing if that's what you see.

I try to be more Sag-like but whoaaa my 12H/1H Gem SN is being all possessive and doesn't wanna let me go. It's like: "What do you think you're doing? It's too unsafe there in the 6th/7th/Sag territory... Come back to mama! I have cookies for you, and some cake, too! Come on, you know you want it; don't resist and just come back home - we'll play over-thinking and rationalization games together " *sigh*

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posted February 15, 2014 07:12 AM            

I mostly know about my own NN/SN axis: Taurus/Scorpio. It probably affects me more so, because I have Venus exactly conj NN & opposite Pluto in a wider conj to my SN.
But I also know others around my age and a couple of people who are 19 yrs older .. who have the exact same axis & no conjunctions to it.
What I've always found interesting is that these people do have some significant life patterns in common.
They generally come from a hectic and emotional home environment. Their background stories are different but there are always several emotionally intense, insane experiences in their past. Basically they come from a psychologically warped environment and try their best to escape that and find some inner peace and calm, which they usually find through physical self-improvement (Taurus). The ones I know who are older than me have a fitness routine that they stick to religiously (Taurus loves routine). They put a lot emphasis on their physical body .. feeling their best, looking their best .. which is all Venusian. There is an element of superficiality and self-centeredness to the Venusian/personal sign of Taurus that does not sit well with Scorpio. People with this axis struggle to accept their physical beauty and enjoy their physical body --- but in the end they seem to find happiness and healing in the very 'superficial' things they shunned in their youth. They also learn to build a new life for themselves from scratch.. a stable life that is not dependent on anyone but themselves. This is very much in contrast with their childhood and younger years when they can go from crisis to crisis. Scorpio has this vibe that reminds me of a writer who is a perfectionist and in a fit of rage throws out an entire manuscript they worked on for months or even years. Taurus would never do that. Taurus would continue down the road they began. This is a hard lesson for Scorpio SN-- to stick to things (on a practical/earthy level). Scorpio is a fixed sign but it's a water sign so their emotions can be fixed and stable - eg Scorpio is the most likely sign to love one person their whole lives... But they are not fixed on a practical level like Taurus is.

posted February 15, 2014 08:05 AM            

My friend has a 24 Taurus NN (I have a 20 Taurus SN) and she and I are so similar in many ways, it is remarkable. (Other synastry factors apply.) Sometimes she is trying to get me to become "more Scorpio," ie she starts drilling things into my head, like, "this is serious, worry about this, stop flaking out," and then I can surprise her by turning the tables: "Oh, but have you worried about this yet? I'm not sure you're aware of how serious that is." LOL But she loves it, I can tell.

She is almost 50 and keeps insisting that she "finally" has a personal sense of style. She's been refurbishing her house with a vengeance for the past year or so (with transiting node in Scorpio, hmm.) Her house is becoming very Taurus: earthy colors, smooth-textured sofas, beautiful lights.

posted February 26, 2014 12:11 AM            

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Originally posted by jupitersgirl:
You can never relate to your North Node. South Node is our collective behavior pattern from our past karmas. If you act in accordance with your South Node, you keep facing the same karma test from your past. You always relate to your SN more than you do to your NN, because SN is the way you are inclined to act in life, it's how you always acted and created karma in your past lives. It's always easier to act like your SN but it will always cause you more karma and difficulties. It's always harder to act like the NN because that's the way you have to go in order to overcome past karmic debts in this life. When you have the choice to act like your SN or NN ( it can be about anything), it's your instinct to be like your SN. So be careful. Even it's hard to act like your NN, (you will have to persuade yourself and/or you may have to confront some people, overcoming karmas is tricky , a strong self awareness is necessary) once you start acting like your NN, life will give you its rewards. I strongly advise everyone to analyze their Node positions and raise self awareness about it.

Edit: The aspects to your Nodes are also very important. They may make everything harder or easier or trickier for you.

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posted February 26, 2014 02:41 AM            

This, however, is rebutted if the either Nodes make aspects to the personal planets.

My NN is in Gemini and this gives communication, being expressive, having a voice, having an opinion and relating to the opinions of others a central theme.

Now my NN forms a quincunx to Mercury in Capricorn, a quincunx to Venus in Scorpio, a trine to Mars in Libra, an opposition to Uranus in Sagittarius and a quintile to Pluto in Scorpio.

I'm still paying attention to how these energies manifest themselves as often the "minor" aspects are said to suggest "hidden talents" as well as areas of "destiny".

posted February 26, 2014 05:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
North Node shows the direction of the Life Path.

Pay attention to which (South or North) has the most emphasis, heavily Aspected, Fixed Stars, House.

All these things will tell you about the Direction in which your Path will lie.

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Ok I'm very late getting involved here but I'm interested in what you said here Ellyn.
My south node is far more aspected but north node isn't really.
What would that mean? Will it be harder for me to follow the direction of my path? Feels like that. Feels like I get sucked back to old patterns a lot even though I know better lol.

posted February 26, 2014 06:06 AM            

You're still working on the past.

The Moon, Venus and Mars are in good Aspect to both, so they help you work it out and move forward.

Especially Venus, as it is Dignified (by Sign.) Mars too, sort of (by House.)

They sort of exchange, where one falls short, the other takes charge and vice versa