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Topic: Why do people put so much emphasis on the sign of their North Node?
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earthypisces
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From: Greenville, South Carolina
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posted February 13, 2014 11:36 AM
  
Isn't it kind of generational? I mean, even Jupiter moves faster and most people don't make a big deal out of what sign that's in.------------------
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Kerosene
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posted February 13, 2014 11:39 AM
I have to agree. It's sign seems to be significant in synastry for obvious reasons. Houses aren't given more importance over signs generally lol idk whyIP: Logged |
summerlite
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posted February 13, 2014 11:50 AM
You can focus on the house then.IP: Logged |
fauxcoat
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posted February 13, 2014 01:09 PM
I know I'm in the minority here but I really think that people are more like their NN signs than sun. The sun sign seems to be some kind of glaring outside shield but the core of a person seems to be the NN sign. It is just what I have noticed after looking up the charts of famous people. Some didn't seem like their sun sign but once I looked at their NN sign it all made sense. Not that the sun sign doesn't count or isn't a factor, but I think the NN is the true essence of who a person really is, and the other planets (sun, moon, mars, mercury, venus, Jupiter) add flavor to it. IP: Logged |
Gemmy
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posted February 13, 2014 01:54 PM
I agree.Even in synastry.My sister had a nodal conjunction in synastry and that relationship didn't go beyond a few months.Nodes are generational,so I don't understand why some astrologers put such an emphasis on that,but down play outer planet aspects.
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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From: neptune
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posted February 13, 2014 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by fauxcoat:
I know I'm in the minority here but I really think that people are more like their NN signs than sun. The sun sign seems to be some kind of glaring outside shield but the core of a person seems to be the NN sign. It is just what I have noticed after looking up the charts of famous people. Some didn't seem like their sun sign but once I looked at their NN sign it all made sense. Not that the sun sign doesn't count or isn't a factor, but I think the NN is the true essence of who a person really is, and the other planets (sun, moon, mars, mercury, venus, Jupiter) add flavor to it.
I agree!
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Gabby
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posted February 13, 2014 02:27 PM
I've just recently noticed all the major relationships in my life had a NN in 2nd house like me!
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I'm so cappy
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From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron)
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posted February 13, 2014 02:30 PM
I checked the Nodes of the people I know and nope, they're more like their Sun sign.------------------
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Kerosene
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posted February 13, 2014 02:31 PM
So everyone born in the same year are similar lol okaaaaay.Logic.. flies out the window once again
this why I don't even take Chinese astro seriously because while their maybe few superficial similarities like generational trends but on a personal level no way. Cap and gemini are not going to be the same even if they share the same Nn lol. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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From: neptune
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posted February 13, 2014 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
So everyone born in the same year are similar lol okaaaaay.Logic.. flies out the window once again
this why I don't even take Chinese astro seriously because while their maybe few superficial similarities like generational trends but on a personal level no way. Cap and gemini are not going to be the same even if they share the same Nn lol.
I know a lot of Aries North Nodes they are nothing like the Pisces. A lot of people born right before my birthdate are Aries and they are much more feisty and headstrong than the wishy washy Pisces north node like myself. They also like to bully Pisces North Nodes.
I was one year ahead in school so most of them had the Aries.
So yes definite discernible difference there!
See, the reason I was in the wrong year was my birthday was only one day after the cut off date so my mom talked them into letting me start early. I was supposed to be with all those Pisces North Node and the ones I got along with best were born a short time after me and one grade lower.
The reason I got a long with them so much better was their Pisces north node was a lot easier for me to deal with.
Then later my mom lamented she didn't just wait to send me with the Pisces North nodes lol because I had trouble getting along with the ones I was with.
If you talk to teachers they'll tell you. Some years have rowdier, crazier kids while some have smarter, others the kids are quiet and kinda slow, don't wish to do their work. You can see the effects of the various nodes and they are noticeable.
Also, the Aries north nodes were ground breakers, somewhat. They were the first in the school to have punk rockers, new wavers and a LGB sub culture. Before it was just stoners, hippies, jocks, preps, nothing else.
One Aries north node friend summed it up like this. She saw me as slower, quieter, more depressed and subdued. It's just the natural Virgo/Pisces. She told me she had dreams where I morphed into Droopy Dog and it annoyed her so much she would start hitting me and beating me up. See? It's the nodes! Aries is much more sparkly they don't have patience for the depressive, subdued, they see it as annoying bs. IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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From: Mountain Gate
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 13, 2014 02:47 PM
North Node shows the direction of the Life Path.Pay attention to which (South or North) has the most emphasis, heavily Aspected, Fixed Stars, House. All these things will tell you about the Direction in which your Path will lie. IP: Logged |
fauxcoat
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posted February 13, 2014 03:36 PM
@ Kerosene - So everyone born in the same year are similar lol okaaaaay.
Logic.. flies out the window once again
Couldn't what you said be applied to sun signs? All Scorpios are alike because they were born in the same month? I didn't say everyone with the same NN sign acts alike. I said it is their essence and it is affected also by the signs of their other planets. I also didn't say I was right...it is just what I have observed.
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NandiNode
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posted February 13, 2014 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by fauxcoat:
@ Kerosene - So everyone born in the same year are similar lol okaaaaay.
Logic.. flies out the window once again
Couldn't what you said be applied to sun signs? All Scorpios are alike because they were born in the same month? I didn't say everyone with the same NN sign acts alike. I said it is their essence and it is affected also by the signs of their other planets. I also didn't say I was right...it is just what I have observed.
Right.
As with everything in astrology, you have to look also at the node in the context of the whole chart.
I do think others with my node sign share a common set of issues. I personally feel the sign more than the house. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted February 13, 2014 04:49 PM
A Month vs a Year?well again that's probability.
So it's more likely you can find people with similar characteristics within the same month.
we all know the moon and asc break things down more
but a year is just so unlikely. With your argument people would be MOST like their SN,
so again your wrong the NN.  I don't think the nodes are related personality but more so drive that people who share the same NN have a common goal. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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From: neptune
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posted February 13, 2014 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
A Month vs a Year?well again that's probability.
So it's more likely you can find people with similar characteristics within the same month.
we all know the moon and asc break things down more
but a year is just so unlikely. With your argument people would be MOST like their SN,
so again your wrong the NN. I don't think the nodes are related personality but more so drive that people who share the same NN have a common goal.
They are a lot like their north node because they already learned their south. Its like getting something new for Christmas, you want to try it out and can't get enough of it. The gift is the north node.
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mcmlxix
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From: Vega
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posted February 13, 2014 05:15 PM
SSS:I’d think someone would be more like their SN (lessons learnt). The NN would be lessons yet to learn. In either case your brash Aires vs quiet Pisces could just as like be brash Leo vs quiet Virgo.
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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From: neptune
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posted February 13, 2014 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by mcmlxix:
SSS:I’d think someone would be more like their SN (lessons learnt). The NN would be lessons yet to learn. In either case your brash Aires vs quiet Pisces could just as like be brash Leo vs quiet Virgo.
That's one way of looking at it. There could be more than one way. People just take for granted everyone is going to be like their south node but it makes more sense they are like their north because it's new and they can't get enough of it. That's my belief.
In this way, the Aries north node could actually be more Arien than the sun in this sign. Those with it will be expressing their Aries qualities in such abundance it will be overwhelming at times and they will be louder and ready to brawl even though Aries suns might not be so exaggerated. There could be potential for more clashing between the north nodes due to this exaggerated quality.
Look at Vedic astrology, the north node is the dragon's head. It gobbles everything.
This exemplifies what I am talking about on this thread and why it is more apparent so much hyperbole is involved with the north node. IP: Logged |
fauxcoat
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posted February 13, 2014 06:12 PM
Wow, maturity is not a strong suit for some. IP: Logged |
fauxcoat
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posted February 13, 2014 06:22 PM
@ SSS - I agree. Maybe the aspects of a person, the issues they need to break out of and leave behind, are represented with the SN and if someone is going along in life as they should (ie. learning, growing, etc.), then the NN would be more prominent than the SN. Perhaps the SN essence of a person is outgrown by the time they are fully grown adults (around early 20's). IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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From: neptune
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posted February 13, 2014 06:23 PM
I just go by experience I went to school with a lot of Aries north nodes. They were outspoken, brash, rough, bully, and I was very quiet, couldn't stand up for myself and was at odds with them most the time. Their brash, noisy ways made me nervous. Couldn't be more exemplary of Virgo/Pisces vs Libra/Aries.
That's when the differences are most apparent. If you are surrounded by people who have the same n/s node it would be less apparent, maybe, so you don't really notice the obvious differences.
Even my mother noticed it, that's why she suggested I be held back a year, because I was supposed to be in that year anyway and I wasn't bonding with all those Aries north nodes although there were a few Pisces here and there but they were pressured by the Aries ones, too, and often in bad moods although more withdrawn.
Like, for example, my friend born a month before me was Pisces nn, and she got along with them so-so but she was in the right year and everything. She has a fire sun and fire people tend to understand other fires.
The nodes are less obvious when older. They were their most different while growing up and in school.
Once you get older, you deal with all different ages of people and you have learned various coping mechanisms, although some may still rub you the wrong way.
Plus, Virgo/Pisces is often very sensitive to outside stimuli lacking the filters to tune as much out and the Libra/Aries tend to be pretty loud and talkative. Masculine signs are more forward, expressive, outspoken...in general than feminine.
This is a good example at how nodal types can clash with one another :sIP: Logged |
Tulipe
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From: France
Registered: Feb 2014
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posted February 13, 2014 08:33 PM
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Originally posted by earthypisces:
Isn't it kind of generational? I mean, even Jupiter moves faster and most people don't make a big deal out of what sign that's in.
I think it's significant because it represents some kind of life path. After you have identified your Sun sign, Moon and Ascendant, or that T-square of Moon, Mars and Saturn in your chart, what will you do with that knowledge? Isn't grow the ultimate purpose here? The Nodes is like our reminder to evolve. The Nodes are the soul points in the chart. Point can't act like a planet does, it's receptive, therefore reflective. So I think some people would feel the Nodes more in synastry because the planet aspecting it will be like a constant reminder. Yes the Nodes is generational but how we do with it is personal. Also, I haven't looked to the Chinese astrology thread but I can assure you it's more like the 12 totems generational-like that you may read. A Chicken who was born in 1993 is different from one who was born in 1981. The Chinese astrology is an ancien art that come from observing the stars for thousand years and how it affects people, much like western astrology. The stars would have different names because Chinese astrology doesn't operate on the Roman myth. But the two astrologies have much in common. I believe the Chinese astrology have the house system too. For example it would tell you what star shines on your career path and how it is debilitated by the bad stars for you. The Chinese astrology also could read synastry, transit by refering to birth time and place. Where I come from, Chinese astrology is very revelant but the documents are really old and rare and in chinese which I don't understand, not even a word. So I'm learning western astrology and discovered they have so many things in common. What can I say? We come from different places on Earth but we look at the same sky. ------------------
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12muddy
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posted February 13, 2014 09:11 PM
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Originally posted by Tulipe:
I believe the Chinese astrology have the house system too. For example it would tell you what star shines on your career path and how it is debilitated by the bad stars for you. The Chinese astrology also could read synastry, transit by refering to birth time and place.
not relevant to the thread but I just wanna say that what you believe is true. Chinese astro has different house system, a set of stars n the time of birth is considered one of the most important coz it determines the stars positions n life paths. The documents are old and not in English, so sometimes although I feel like I want to share more info about chinese astro, I don't think that I'd do a satisfactory job of translating those documents. There are conflicts between astrologers about time zones. As far as I know, for now it seems that people who were born in certain parts of asia can get an accurate birth chart. IP: Logged |
theunknown
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posted February 13, 2014 10:02 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
So everyone born in the same year are similar lol okaaaaay.Logic.. flies out the window once again
this why I don't even take Chinese astro seriously because while their maybe few superficial similarities like generational trends but on a personal level no way. Cap and gemini are not going to be the same even if they share the same Nn lol.
Kerosene,Eastern astrology also has birth chart. So you'll have the year you were born, the month, the day and the hour (ie I'm a monkey born on the hour of horse). There are currently no English website I know of that can do it for you but since I'm bilingual I can attest that such system exists. My mom had my chart done when I was born. It's somewhat similar to Vedic and somewhat not.
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DeepFreeze
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posted February 13, 2014 10:35 PM
Theres a link on this page of a thread to find your four chinese astrology signs.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/223856-4.html I'm
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theunknown
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posted February 13, 2014 10:53 PM
My house description for my NN doesn't resonate with me... That's why I doIP: Logged |
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