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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted February 19, 2014 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by summerlite:
It's actually a Virgo thing.

Alyssa Sharpe explained in one of her videos. Virgos can like you very much but if you have one small thing that doesn't fit his "ideal" (which is usually shallow), he cannot "love" you.



It is love, the best kind of love, imo. To be loved for the mind.
It's actually more of a celebrity/worship/devotional kind of love so I can see why it would Jupiter, afflicted Neptune, Sagittarius or Pisces more than Virgo.
Pisces is the sign of utter devotion and the mystical state of ecstasy experienced by people who devote their lives to loving a deity or something they cannot touch. It's on a psychological plain and idealized. It's not to sensed physically.

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posted February 19, 2014 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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As for loving me for my mind. I fully believe that actually. When we hang out it's just communication pretty much. We don't actually "do" things together much. I sit and mess around on the computer, he plays his games, and we talk. Sometimes watch a movie or some shows. But it's fantastic.
He will often brag about me to others also.

It may also play a big role that Virgo is my 12th. His Sun on my Venus. His Sun is conjunct his Mercury which means we both have Virgo Mercury and his Moon conjuncts mine in Gemini.
Probably other things.

But, anyway, when he seeks out a S.O.... he's like I said before. I support him with it though. He knows what would make him happy more than anyone else would know.

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posted February 19, 2014 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
SSS

As for loving me for my mind. I fully believe that actually. When we hang out it's just communication pretty much. We don't actually "do" things together much. I sit and mess around on the computer, he plays his games, and we talk. Sometimes watch a movie or some shows. But it's fantastic.
He will often brag about me to others also.

It may also play a big role that Virgo is my 12th. His Sun on my Venus. His Sun is conjunct his Mercury which means we both have Virgo Mercury and his Moon conjuncts mine in Gemini.
Probably other things.

But, anyway, when he seeks out a S.O.... he's like I said before. I support him with it though. He knows what would make him happy more than anyone else would know.


Does he ever find anyone? You describe him like he stays single most the time. Virgo suns can stay single pretty easily.

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posted February 19, 2014 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He does stay single most of the time. I don't think he's been very serious with anyone since 2010

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posted February 19, 2014 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for summerlite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
It is love, the best kind of love, imo. To be loved for the mind.
It's actually more of a celebrity/worship/devotional kind of love so I can see why it would Jupiter, afflicted Neptune, Sagittarius or Pisces more than Virgo.
Pisces is the sign of utter devotion and the mystical state of ecstasy experienced by people who devote their lives to loving a deity or something they cannot touch. It's on a psychological plain and idealized. It's not to sensed physically.

lol. There's nothing wrong with loving the mind. But the ideal set is not that kind of idealization. How is wanting a partner great at games a "devotional ideal"?

It's like a guy wanting a bombshell girlfriend. Then this girl comes along that gets along with you amazingly heart-to-heart soul-to-soul. But she is not a bombshell. And then you reject her because of it.

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posted February 19, 2014 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Virgo sun (female) here.

For me, I notice every thing that isn't perfect, but it doesn't bother me until some imaginary threshold is crossed.

Example: I may not care that my partner puts on a little weight. However, if we add in anything else that bothers me, then I start to get antsy and I consider calling it off. I hate being this way... I am afraid I will never be fulfilled because my expectations are so high.

I want it all: a sharp mind, a stable income, a hot body and a high sex drive. Anything less and I will actually think to myself, "What's the point of you being here?"

It's hard to change but I am trying to be less critical / more forgiving. I know I am not perfect and I can be a beast to live with. *lol*

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posted February 19, 2014 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted February 19, 2014 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by summerlite:

It's like a guy wanting a bombshell girlfriend. Then this girl comes along that gets along with you amazingly heart-to-heart soul-to-soul. But she is not a bombshell. And then you reject her because of it.



Haha, are you kidding? I would never want a bombshell anything you know how difficult those kinds of relationships are? Other women throw themselves at bombshells and they constantly stray. It's just too much temptation. Bombshell relationship is too high maintenance. The relationship just isn't any fun.
NOT for me.
I like a short, nice smelling guy with a brilliant mind who is sweet and everyone else considers a pariah but me.
My Taurus sun friend, for example, was in a relationship with someone she met while going to school in Great Britain. She brought him over here to live then they got married. He was attractive and plus he being from the UK was an instant draw to many women so he had many girlfriends he went out with. He was hardly ever home. The relationship was absolutely horrid. For her, it was like not having one.
So then she divorced him after something like, five years, then she met another man and he was one most women wouldn't consider attractive. He isn't tall and he is so-so on looks. He's clean and everything but his personality can be dark and moody. Most women would look, shake their head and run the other way. He is pretty much the opposite of her first husband but I wouldn't call him the most God forsaken man on earth, just not attractive to other women like her first. His personality is outgoing and fun when he isn't being dark and depressed which she told me about and said it was like being married to someone with my personality, heh. She would joke about that.
Anyway, I thought this guy was a thousand times better than the first husband. Despite hundreds of local woman being drawn to her first husband, I was completely repulsed, loathed his personality, and couldn't understand why so many found him so attractive. The second husband, which most women wouldn't find that great, was far more attractive to me even though I couldn't do anything, he's her husband so he's taken and I wouldn't make a move on someone else's boyfriend or husband.
So you see, I do not go for the one oodles of other women find attractive. Just the fact they are so turned on repels me.

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posted February 20, 2014 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Renewer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have no clue what I am doing. Was trying to sew a bit on the thread for hours or days or I don't relate to time very well although I am a native Virgo male, 9,15.1951 In my distracted thing I said the other day, it and these quotes all illustrate what I thought I said, the choices one makes affect the way such one sees. I am blind in one eye from birth. I always said it was the eye that saw bad in others which was blind. But see, both of my faces are one. I am not two-faced. Ruthlessly honest. (including myself. Although we largely consist of what we do, I separate the bad that people do from that person. I ain't accusing nobody. lol. I AM nobody.
Anyway, I see the things like a Virgo, in accurate, even meticulous detail in spite of being blind in one eye and incapable of hearing out of the other. So I see. And like a Virgo I think, I am mental. LU! I think I coined that acronym, for: Laughing Uproariously! (Dang! Maybe I should smoke another so I can understand what I am talking about. or at least just spit it out) If I am not distracted I am protracted, huh. It just takes awhile to understand my humor. I live in the desert.
The things that people want are their ideals. Some have low standards, some high, as it is called. Like Virgos I have refined standards, or ideals, and take it to the extreme. and I am hard on myself.
But I am an old hippie who has never found anything to change that as a standard, you know, Peace and Love. As a youngster, I learned or was gulled into believing in evolution and all that, swallowing the whole thing down, but only in the way of taking in all the evidence. I remember everything, it may simply take me longer sometimes than others, and I do too much laughing, which makes it seem like I talk too much. lol. Yea, old hippies never die, they just take longer trips.
But all may make a mistake, and I, for one, do NOT hold it against them, I believe that no one is permitted to be against another person. I became a believer in God when I was eighteen. Seriously seeking the will of God, to do it. That is why it is embarrassing for me to admit to having experienced animal lust. That is why I call it a loss of integrity to myself, because it means not holding to my standards, regardless. -we still see things as we want to in error sometimes...
quote:
Originally posted by summerlite:
lol. There's nothing wrong with loving the mind. But the ideal set is not that kind of idealization. How is wanting a partner great at games a "devotional ideal"?

It's like a guy wanting a bombshell girlfriend. Then this girl comes along that gets along with you amazingly heart-to-heart soul-to-soul. But she is not a bombshell. And then you reject her because of it.


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posted February 20, 2014 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Renewer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by summerlite:
[b]It's actually a Virgo thing.

Alyssa Sharpe explained in one of her videos. Virgos can like you very much but if you have one small thing that doesn't fit his "ideal" (which is usually shallow), he cannot "love" you.



It is love, the best kind of love, imo. To be loved for the mind.
It's actually more of a celebrity/worship/devotional kind of love so I can see why it would Jupiter, afflicted Neptune, Sagittarius or Pisces more than Virgo.
Pisces is the sign of utter devotion and the mystical state of ecstasy experienced by people who devote their lives to loving a deity or something they cannot touch. It's on a psychological plain and idealized. It's not to sensed physically. [/B][/QUOTE]

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posted February 20, 2014 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Renewer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Absolutely. and if I can ever figure out what I just said on a post that hasnt shown up as I type this I will be right back with clarity. lu (that means a smaller uproar)

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posted February 20, 2014 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for summerlite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:

Haha, are you kidding? I would never want a bombshell anything you know how difficult those kinds of relationships are? Other women throw themselves at bombshells and they constantly stray. It's just too much temptation. Bombshell relationship is too high maintenance. The relationship just isn't any fun.
[b]NOT
for me.
I like a short, nice smelling guy with a brilliant mind who is sweet and everyone else considers a pariah but me.
[/B]

So what happens again if a soulmate appears but he is tall?

Because you are so fixed at thinking short = great personality, you have missed the opportunity of keeping someone truly ideal for you by your side.

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posted February 20, 2014 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Renewer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So does that not change the things we actually see? I think not. But I only have one face. I am what I am. I am straightforward and literally honest.
I have an interesting (I think) question to pose: If the moment of birth affects our personality, what about the moment of conception? Wouldn't it also? The reason I mention it is I was also a ten-month baby. My due date was August 13, my mom went into labor, water broke all that, and she was in labor like four hours when the previous two she had had had not been difficult when they found it was going to be a breach birth, labor stopped. Then, a month later, on the fourteenth of September, she went into labor at about 11:30 Friday night, my dad was still out of town working, so she didn't have a way to hurry get to the hospital when we lived out of town. She called a taxi got to the hospital, and I was born a little after midnight, Saturday morning, full moon in Pisces in opposition to my sun in Virgo and (do they say MC for) in my mid-heaven. Mercury and Venus conjunct in Virgo. That's a hard one. But Cancer rising, and Mars Pluto and Neptune all well aspected. Gotta get my chart done again. I have no idea what I have been talking about.

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posted February 20, 2014 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Renewer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol I think I have been talking to myself is why I got confused. I started answering myself without seeing anything you said. LU.

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posted February 20, 2014 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Renewer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had never heard of black moon Lilith before. Looked at a lot of it, liked a lot of the music, her voice, haven't come to any conclusion yet. Heard of Lilith before referenced by some as a "first" wife to Adam, but I don't believe in that. The thing taught as that comes from what is called Jewish Midrash if I remember correctly, and it uses a translation of a word that only occurs one time in Hebrew. The best translation of that word now known is night-jar, a type of bird that flies around at night getting bugs. Various thought about that in earlier times was meant a visitation by spirits at night, or various nighttime visitations. lol

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posted February 20, 2014 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by summerlite:
So what happens again if a soulmate appears but he is tall?

Because you are so fixed at thinking short = great personality, you have missed the opportunity of keeping someone truly ideal for you by your side.



Tall people are never my soul mates :/

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posted February 20, 2014 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Renewer:
So does that not change the things we actually see? I think not. But I only have one face. I am what I am. I am straightforward and literally honest.
I have an interesting (I think) question to pose: If the moment of birth affects our personality, what about the moment of conception? Wouldn't it also? The reason I mention it is I was also a ten-month baby. My due date was August 13, my mom went into labor, water broke all that, and she was in labor like four hours when the previous two she had had had not been difficult when they found it was going to be a breach birth, labor stopped. Then, a month later, on the fourteenth of September, she went into labor at about 11:30 Friday night, my dad was still out of town working, so she didn't have a way to hurry get to the hospital when we lived out of town. She called a taxi got to the hospital, and I was born a little after midnight, Saturday morning, full moon in Pisces in opposition to my sun in Virgo and (do they say MC for) in my mid-heaven. Mercury and Venus conjunct in Virgo. That's a hard one. But Cancer rising, and Mars Pluto and Neptune all well aspected. Gotta get my chart done again. I have no idea what I have been talking about.


Oh wow my due date was also August 13. I was late because I was first born.
I like to think I was waiting for a sapphire because as soon as September got here BOOM out I came.

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posted February 21, 2014 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Renewer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a trip, huh. I think the baby has more control over what happens in a pregnancy than most people believe. lol I always said, well, a cat gets scared if he has to go down out of a tree tail first, doesn't it? Why they go rescue kittens off a phone pole. Well, nobody told me beforehand that I had to go out backwards till everyone panicked, so I had to go back and think about it awhile. lol.

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posted February 21, 2014 04:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Renewer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But what causes such things to happen, and what does it have to do with the relation between natal and conceptual astrology?

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posted February 21, 2014 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Renewer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been pursuing several lines of research subsequent to not having a chart/daisy wheel accessible + what brought me to this site - attempting to find text of Linda Goodman's position on discovery of the tenth planet's affect on natives of Virgo by because that is supposed to be Vulcan - the affect of the discovery of X - astronomer astrologer differences as to definition of planet ? of state of art of their analysis of these effects accurately assessing the effects of X, Vulcan, ...
The websites giving out free birth "charts" have varying ranges of agreement between each other and the chart I remember. I have learned a few things, but now I wonder even more. Assessments. Co-Relevance. Actual.
My job/day/role is to proclaim Psalms 2 to stream now/eventsoccuring/actual, and the app is Isaiah 2:4."...judgment among the nations: They MUST beat their swords into plowshares!".com
Plus, I have been working on my website trying to get the blog page up and running with definitions of the radicals anyway, and I gotta eat better.

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