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Topic: Jesus and his Ascendant: Could it be Pisces?
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Ami Anne
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posted March 06, 2014 09:13 AM
  
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I don't think all the signs have been in there correct house for very, very long time haha
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Ellynlvx
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posted March 06, 2014 09:22 AM
http://www.biblicalchronology.com/census.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Census_of_Quirinius Spring. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted March 06, 2014 10:00 AM
This is the most interesting thing I've found regarding jesus birthday......
"Although, almost all scholars agree that King Herod I died in 4 BC, therefore, Jesus would have to have been born in 7-4 BC. It stated that April 17, 6 BC (17/4/747 Roman Calendar [AUC]) was the actual date that Jesus was born. This date had already been reported by CNN and History Channel for the last 4 years. 7 years ago (2001), the BBC and Discovery Channel reported that April 17, 6 BC was Jesus' actual Birthday.
If this is correct, Jesus' horoscope sign would be Aries the Ram, rams are male sheep, baby sheep are lambs, and Jesus is considered the "Lamb of God". A messiah born under the sign of Aries would therefore satisfy and foreshadow much symbolism!
There is documentation (Dead Sea Scrolls) that the Jews at the time of Jesus practiced astrology - learned during their captivity in Babylon.
The Roman calendar that is in use worldwide today was also in use at the time of Y'shua ben Yosef's (Jesus son of Joseph's) birth. The Romans would have written the date as 17/4/747 AUC (ab urbe condita [since the founding of Roma]). Is there a special significance to that numerical alignment? Yes...
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with the god, and the Word was God." - John 1:1 This great 'mystery' is most important! The Hebrew and Greek Bible (and Arabic Qur'an) was written using gematria: the practice of assigning a number to a letter, word, or phrase and that number having symbolic meaning and 'connect'. Hebrew, Greek, and Arabic are alphanumeric languages. Since the advent and spread of our current worldwide numerical system, man doesn't make the connection of letters as numbers like we used to.
English didn't require the overt connection to mathematics, but the numbers are in the letters nonetheless: a=1,b=2...z=26.
The strongest example of Simple(74) English(74) Gematria(74) is GOD=7_4. G is the 7th letter, a circle that is either the 15th letter or zerO, and D the 4th letter. 7/4=July 4 and 17/4/747 AUC is Jesus' Birthday, 4/17/6 BC and July 4, 1776.
Coincidence or proof of a 'Grand Architect of this Universe' and a Masonic code?
Note: GOD=7_4, connect74, Jesus74/Y'shua74/Joshua74/Iesvs74, religion74, Jewish74, Messiah74, donkey74/burro74, Cross74, Gospel74, preacher74, parable74, a number74, Masonic74, London74, Roma47, time47, John47, etc." IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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posted March 06, 2014 10:06 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masoretic_Text I think the Masoretic Text was the first example of this. Before that they changed it a lot. IP: Logged |
Solar_Leo_Queen
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posted March 06, 2014 10:57 AM
Gabby, you have a good point there about Aries being his sign. He is after all the Lamb of God and Aries does symbolize the lamb. That's very interesting. Although, I've never pictured Jesus to be a fire sign.IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted March 06, 2014 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
Gabby, you have a good point there about Aries being his sign. He is after all the Lamb of God and Aries does symbolize the lamb. That's very interesting. Although, I've never pictured Jesus to be a fire sign.
I very definitely think he has pisces as a main sign to but to me I would think more of his heart!
He had to have the will, ability and drive to be a leader, stand up to those who tried to discredit him...I just don't see a pisces sun person having that ability for extended periods of time!
I do believe his heart was humble and kind, it would have to be so soft and tender, like pisces in order for one to see themselves as the one willing to sacrifice himself, his life, for others!! If he came across as a pushover to everyone he met no one would have respected him! He had to have done fire leading the way! Blazing a new path for others to follow!
Aries 1st sign of the zodiac breaking new ground...but not hanging around to long, sounds like a cardinal sign to me!!
But his heart and connection to God were the humblest and wisest, willing to die for others...that is pisces! As for his AC...I'd have to think about that more! I don't recall jesus ever sticking his foot in his mouth, but he was very blunt, he didn't hold back from speaking the truth and didn't care who it offended because he was speaking the truth!! ...so maybe saggy? I just can't see a Pisces saying this...."
The most famous group Jesus encountered, however, was the Pharisees.4 While their membership may not have totaled more than a few thousand in His day, their influence was felt far beyond their havurot (“brotherhoods”). They were often associated with the scribes, most probably professional scholars in the Torah, but sometimes were clearly distinguished from them.5 Some of the most stinging rebukes Jesus issued were directed toward the Pharisees. Probably the strongest diatribe is recorded in Matthew 23. At least seven times in that chapter, Jesus pronounced the following condemnation: “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!” He condemned and illustrated their rapaciousness, their selfishness, their inward spiritual emptiness, and their emphasis on “scruple” while neglecting the “weightier” matters of justice, mercy, and faith." That takes some balls....n a true devotion to saying the truth without fear....no other sign can meet a saggys dedication to truth above all else!! IP: Logged |
7thGuardian
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posted March 06, 2014 01:03 PM
Are you guys referring to the fictional character - the one inspired from ancient writings - which proved to be source for other similar tales ( http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-christ-like-figures-who-pre-date-jesus/ )? Or... Jesus the revolutionary - the one emphasized in the bible by those ancients stories ( http://socialistworker.org/2011/12/14/jesus-the-revolutionary )?IP: Logged |
JustAmanda1216
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posted March 06, 2014 01:38 PM
7thGuardian, I didn't know there was any other Jesus? Ok, so I want to through some numerology in here too, from Linda Goodman herself...
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum22/HTML/000027.html @Randall, how can you get to the archives from December 2002 when Angela posted the key numbers and compound numbers? IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted March 06, 2014 01:41 PM
What if he was Aries?IP: Logged |
JustAmanda1216
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posted March 06, 2014 01:44 PM
Actually never mind Randall, duh, I forgot there was the other Astrology forum, which those pages are somewhere on there...I think they were bumped up. And I cannot believe I have been coming and posting here since 2002!!! I know my name thing says I've only posted a few times, but that's because I came here under a different screen name then...Bernadette1216...how funny tho! Time sure flies! IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted March 06, 2014 01:56 PM
Just because it was spring there doesn't mean that it wasn't still December. They are on a different part of the globe and the seasons and everything change but the months are still the same everywhere else in the world. He absolutely was not an Aries or a Pisces. His birthday was not in April. He resurrected around that time. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted March 06, 2014 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Just because it was spring there doesn't mean that it wasn't still December. They are on a different part of the globe and the seasons and everything change but the months are still the same everywhere else in the world. He absolutely was not an Aries or a Pisces. His birthday was not in April. He resurrected during that time.
Tell that to the scientist that mathematically came to that date!
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Barbiegirl19
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posted March 06, 2014 02:03 PM
And a million other scientist have said other dates so it's all a matter of opinion. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted March 06, 2014 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Tell that to the scientist that mathematically came to that date!
If you think of what the Bible says... That God created everything in 7 days, then that means God>time....
He could do things that normally took time but did not for him. He could make it look like it took billions of years. I'm just saying... If God does exist, he could EASILY fool a bunch of scientists. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted March 06, 2014 02:13 PM
John 8:58
The Father called Himself, "I Am That I Am", and Jesus said, "Before Abraham was, I Am" What is the basic trait of an aries... "I AM" IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted March 06, 2014 02:14 PM
I say I am all the time does that make me an Aries?  He resurrected during that time. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted March 06, 2014 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
If you think of what the Bible says... That God created everything in 7 days, then that means God>time....
He could do things that normally took time but did not for him. He could make it look like it took billions of years. I'm just saying... If God does exist, he could EASILY fool a bunch of scientists.
If his purpose was to give us a leader why would he do that?
I'm sure a being with infinite knowledge wouldn't have to stoop to such human tactics!!
That doesn't sound like God, it sounds like ppl trying to disprove science because it doesn't fit in with their emotional needs.
It makes perfect sense that Christ, bringing in a new era and closing another, would be an aries...the cardinal sign of new beginnings!!
Trust me, I don't like Aries either but they are what they are...leaders, pioneers, bold, strong and they are all heart, they are caring and fighters for what is right!
All the qualities of someone meant to lead others....pisces moon gives the "savior" complex to people...it makes sense that placement would allow someone to die for others but at the same time be bold, and have the tenacity to keep fighting against all odds....aries gives that! I can't think of any other sign that wouldn't give up the way an aries won't give up!! I'm on my phone sorry for typos!!  IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted March 06, 2014 02:22 PM
That's exactly what shouldn't be done. Taking single verses out.
I could argue a lot of things including other signs by taking out verses. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted March 06, 2014 02:25 PM
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That's exactly what shouldn't be done. Taking single verses out.
I could argue a lot of things including other signs by taking out verses.
Lol...I was shoeing what Jesus called himself!!
Not twisting a scripture to serve my point of view!! IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted March 06, 2014 02:27 PM
I'm not going to argue it.
It really seems very pointless.
I have nothing to prove because nothing can be proven. Otherwise it would not continue to be argued among the best in the world.
I'm out. It just feels like wasting my energies.
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Barbiegirl19
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posted March 06, 2014 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by Gabby:
If his purpose was to give us a leader why would he do that?
I'm sure a being with infinite knowledge wouldn't have to stoop to such human tactics!!
That doesn't sound like God, it sounds like ppl trying to disprove science because it doesn't fit in with their emotional needs.
It makes perfect sense that Christ, bringing in a new era and closing another, would be an aries...the cardinal sign of new beginnings!!
Trust me, I don't like Aries either but they are what they are...leaders, pioneers, bold, strong and they are all heart, they are caring and fighters for what is right!
All the qualities of someone meant to lead others....pisces moon gives the "savior" complex to people...it makes sense that placement would allow someone to die for others but at the same time be bold, and have the tenacity to keep fighting against all odds....aries gives that! I can't think of any other sign that wouldn't give up the way an aries won't give up!!I'm on my phone sorry for typos!!
Because he had to give a human form of himself. Jesus is God. We don't see God until after we die. Everyone knows that, it's how it works. I don't really understand your point besides seeing a few traits that you believe belong to Aries and riding on it. Obviously something you read is calling his resurrection his birthday. What's it matter anyway? He could have all qualities of every sign and we'd never know. He is unlike any person on the planet. A higher being with a purpose of saving his people. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted March 06, 2014 02:29 PM
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Lol...I was shoeing what Jesus called himself!!
Not twisting a scripture to serve my point of view!!
He's saying I am God.... Not Aries.
If you read the whole thing then you'll understand. IP: Logged |
JustAmanda1216
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posted March 06, 2014 02:38 PM
Actually I know an Aries man who DID give up on something very important...so I know that's just ONE man but, we are talking about ONE man here. I don't know..I just can't wrap my head around Jesus being an Aries...I can't wrap my head around Him being ONE single sign..I know I know, "but if He was born then He would have a sign Amanda" but honestly, I cannot define Christ with the traits of ONE particular sign, not even having rising sign traits to add to it. To me, Christ is more than one trait or another...I have a paper at home that I was given a long time ago that says all the things Christ is to them. I'll get it and post it tomorrow, it's really cool and I actually heard the pastor on like youtube once saying it, and it was so moving. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted March 06, 2014 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
He's saying I am God.... Not Aries.
If you read the whole thing then you'll understand.
No, jesus was not saying he was God!! IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted March 06, 2014 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
He's saying I am God.... Not Aries.
If you read the whole thing then you'll understand.
No, jesus was not saying he was God!! IP: Logged |
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