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Topic: Jesus and his Ascendant: Could it be Pisces?
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summerlite
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posted March 06, 2014 03:04 PM
  
The chart is hidden because it will reveal his weakness, his past life.Religions are reinventions of older religions of the past. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted March 06, 2014 03:06 PM
If you read the bible Gabby you would know that he is. God created himself in human form and that form was Jesus. The "I am" is God. He is all being, the almighty is what he's saying. IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez
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posted March 06, 2014 03:08 PM
Late Aqua asc with MC in Sag lol..so he could be Aqua rising  jk. I agree with Pisces or Sag rising..both ruled by the wonderful planet of Jupiter [my fave planet second to Saturn heh]. I always associated the planet Saturn with God himself for some reason...------------------
**STUDENT 4 LIFE** Tarot Readings by Me Facebook - ReadingsbyAzul Be careful! I have a lil WITCH!Bwahah loveher. Me - Virgo Sun. Cancer Moon. Aquarius Ascendant
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Son - Virgo Sun. Libra Moon. Virgo Ascendant
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Gabby
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posted March 06, 2014 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Because he had to give a human form of himself. Jesus is God. We don't see God until after we die. Everyone knows that, it's how it works. I don't really understand your point besides seeing a few traits that you believe belong to Aries and riding on it. Obviously something you read is calling his resurrection his birthday. What's it matter anyway? He could have all qualities of every sign and we'd never know. He is unlike any person on the planet. A higher being with a purpose of saving his people.
Nope....I'm just stating some scientist theory that when I take my emotions out of the equation, it fits!
I know God doesn't have to manipulate anything to make something fit for us...it's us as imperfect humans that can only see what we feel safe enough to see!
I don't believe Jesus is God, I believe he is Gods son, he is made from Gods energy just as we are....he was put on Earth to help us see what we could be if we open our hearts to allow Gods energy to purely flow through us!
If he came here as more than just a man then what kind of example could he really be? We could never be like him because we physically didn't have what he had..so he came as a man, to show us what we as mere humans, just like him could accomplish! So really who cares what his sign is, it's about his message
My only point is the scientist research made sense to me!!
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Gabby
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posted March 06, 2014 03:13 PM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
If you read the bible Gabby you would know that he is. God created himself in human form and that form was Jesus. The "I am" is God. He is all being, the almighty is what he's saying.
Lol....thats cute!! IP: Logged |
summerlite
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posted March 06, 2014 03:22 PM
 The "I am" chart is the draconic chart. IP: Logged |
7thGuardian
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posted March 06, 2014 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by JustAmanda1216:
7thGuardian, I didn't know there was any other Jesus?
Well, let me put it this way - back when we were children - most of us believed in the mystical story of Santa Claus. At least until few years latter - when we grew up and we found out the truth - about him being just a fictional character. Though - maybe not mystical (with super powers and all of that) - but his story was supposedly based on a real life character: http://www.stnicholascenter.org/pages/who-is-st-nicholas/ So, in same way - we have the fictional Jesus from the bible and the possibility of a real Jesus: quote:
"Historians focusing on this era generally accept that there was likely an individual named Jesus who lived in Palestine roughly two millennia ago, had a very small following of people studying his views, was killed by the government, and whose life became pivotal to some of the world's largest religions.[2] Beyond this, however, there is no evidence over the accuracy of any of the descriptions of his life, as described in the Bible or as understood by his believers. A small minority, past[3] and present[4] believe there is insufficient justification to assume any individual human seed for the stories, representing an extreme in the other end of belief. It should be noted that at least one anthropology paper states in both its abstract and main text "there is not a shred of evidence that a historical character Jesus lived."
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Evidence_for_the_historical_existence_of_Jesus_Christ quote:
Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
He's saying I am God.... Not Aries.
If you read the whole thing then you'll understand.
You mean the God of all Gods from the ancient mythology - as in "Zeus".  Cause that's what certain religious people are praising - if we're to take in consideration the meaning behind the name Jesus (just think of the way you pronounce it - with "s" as "z"). Son of "Zeus" or I am "Zeus" - either way it's part of a local religion - not Universal - where God is the Universe not just "Jupiter". Though, it's true - that if we're to take astrology in consideration - Jupiter can be more influential for us humans (directly) - since it implies abundance/expansion. That being said - the intuition of our ancestors - wasn't that far from truth, but again - it's more of a local truth...not Universal. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted March 06, 2014 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Nope....I'm just stating some scientist theory that when I take my emotions out of the equation, it fits!
I know God doesn't have to manipulate anything to make something fit for us...it's us as imperfect humans that can only see what we feel safe enough to see!
I don't believe Jesus is God, I believe he is Gods son, he is made from Gods energy just as we are....he was put on Earth to help us see what we could be if we open our hearts to allow Gods energy to purely flow through us!
If he came here as more than just a man then what kind of example could he really be? We could never be like him because we physically didn't have what he had..so he came as a man, to show us what we as mere humans, just like him could accomplish!So really who cares what his sign is, it's about his message
My only point is the scientist research made sense to me!!
I haven't seen people walk on water, turn water to wine, heal people the way it's said that he did.
A bit more than human I think. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted March 06, 2014 03:28 PM
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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
You mean the God of all Gods from the ancient mythology - as in "Zeus". Cause that's what certain religious people are praising - if we're to take in consideration the meaning behind the name Jesus (just think of the way you pronounce it - with "s" as "z"). Son of "Zeus" or I am "Zeus" - either way it's part of a local religion - not Universal - where God is the Universe not just "Jupiter". Though, it's true - that if we're to take astrology in consideration - Jupiter can be more influential for us humans (directly) - since it implies abundance/expansion. That being said - the intuition of our ancestors - wasn't that far from truth, but again - it's more of a local truth...not Universal.
So billions of people/followers on earth now are all just one locality? LOLOLOL clearly that in itself proves that he's more than all of that rubbish BS.  IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted March 06, 2014 03:31 PM
If he did in fact create the very stars and planets that affect us... He wouldn't need to be any sign. He could be beyond that. Anyway... I really am done here now.
This is getting really kind of ridiculous.
These threads shouldn't be allowed, period.
It's not a porn site as is pointed out sometimes and neither is it a religious one. I'm not "running away"....I'm tired of wasting my energy on things that can never have a conclusion. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted March 06, 2014 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I haven't seen people walk on water, turn water to wine, heal people the way it's said that he did.
A bit more than human I think.
We only use not even a 10th of our brains, science has proven emotions activate or deactivate our DNA. If Jesus had perfect love and his DNA was fully activated like ours could be, the possibilities of what we could do would be endless!
We are made of quantum particles which can be visible or invisible, which means our DNA has the capacity to do the same...if we learn how to unlock the DNA that allows us to be like Jesus. Jesus was showing us our potential, and giving us the guide in order to get there! IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted March 06, 2014 03:40 PM
We will never be perfect. It will never be possible. We're born sinners and we die sinners. Jesus was born to teach us and to die for us so that we have eternal life on the other side once we leave here. I'm done arguing a war that I'll never win. That no one will win. I agree with DeepFreeze completely. This site isn't a porn site like we're reminded and it isn't a religious one. Eventually this'll be closed and I'm no longered interested in being apart of it when it does. God bless. IP: Logged |
7thGuardian
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posted March 06, 2014 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
So billions of people/followers on earth now are all just one locality? LOLOLOL clearly that in itself proves that he's more than all of that rubbish BS.
Was referring to our "local Solar system (of which Zeus/Jupiter - is part of)" compared to the whole Universe. Which is kinda like a grain of sand compared to the entire Sahara desert. IP: Logged |
JustAmanda1216
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posted March 06, 2014 04:02 PM
Deep Freeze said... If he did in fact create the very stars and planets that affect us... He wouldn't need to be any sign. He could be beyond that. And THAT'S what I've been saying! LOL! So, don't leave Deep Freeze, even tho our beliefs may be different, it's apparent our thought processes are similar! And thank you 7thGuardian, for that explanation...I guess it's just in how you view it isn't it? It's ironic that you mention Santa Claus too because oh my gosh, I was enamored with SC as a child, and maybe it's my Saggie sun, but I never lost that "magic"...and I have shared that with my daughters, who are now 23 and 16...it's so funny because they love to still get Santa gifts, and their stockings filled by "Santa"...and I never told them myself that Santa wasn't real, their friends in elementary school did that, so when they asked me I said, well, for your mama, Santa lives in my heart, with the magic of Christmas. Can you tell I love Christmas? LOL... IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted March 06, 2014 04:03 PM
Here is one thing that I know for certain, and you will not convince me otherwise BECAUSE IT IS THE TRUTH.Jesus LOVES it when his followers get really mad at other people for disagreeing with them about his astrological sign.  IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted March 06, 2014 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by Violets:
Here is one thing that I know for certain, and you will not convince me otherwise BECAUSE IT IS THE TRUTH.Jesus LOVES it when his followers get really mad at other people for disagreeing with them about his astrological sign.
No one is mad. Don't assume.
I stated very clearly.
It has no conclusion, never has for thousands of years.
No one can be convinced of anything if they don't WANT to be and there's no sense in wasting energy on it. It's logic, not anger. IP: Logged |
7thGuardian
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posted March 06, 2014 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by JustAmanda1216:
And thank you 7thGuardian, for that explanation...I guess it's just in how you view it isn't it? It's ironic that you mention Santa Claus too because oh my gosh, I was enamored with SC as a child, and maybe it's my Saggie sun, but I never lost that "magic"...and I have shared that with my daughters, who are now 23 and 16...it's so funny because they love to still get Santa gifts, and their stockings filled by "Santa"...and I never told them myself that Santa wasn't real, their friends in elementary school did that, so when they asked me I said, well, for your mama, Santa lives in my heart, with the magic of Christmas. Can you tell I love Christmas? LOL...
I found out the truth about Santa - when i was around 4 years old, but even so - i still enjoyed xmas presents and xmas parties - since it wasn't about Jesus or Santa - but "good times (having a good time)." So, yeah - i still like to have a good time - the label of the occasion (xmas, easter, halloween, b'day, some special event or even a night out) is less relevant to me. It's what it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7B2YoEfQGk
It's what it is now... IP: Logged |
summerlite
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posted March 06, 2014 04:28 PM
Good that you know you are imperfect because all OP did was throw out a possibility and all you want to do is preach. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted March 06, 2014 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
It has no conclusion, never has for thousands of years.
there's no sense in wasting energy on it.
Agreed! I mean...if people want to discuss it, I take no issue with that. Just my usual random commentary. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted March 06, 2014 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by Violets:
Agreed! I mean...if people want to discuss it, I take no issue with that. Just my usual random commentary.
Yeah I know you a bit. I took it a little as both.
My cancer MC makes me look all emotional but I'm not. lol
It gets old being told that I feel certain ways so I jump on it but no worries.
I know it wasn't directed at me but I felt part of the group. All good. IP: Logged |
summerlite
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posted March 06, 2014 04:40 PM
For those interested,this is the discovery chart for Jessie asteroid, which is used to represent "Jesus". (there are other threads on it). You might want to debate against it but Jessie asteroid sits at Aries point in this chart.  Not saying this will be his chart but you can pick up something from it. In tropical, chart has Sun in Virgo along with 2 planets. Moon in Leo with Jupiter. Interestingly, in draconic chart (The "I am" chart), the NN will shift to Aries point. This shifts planets into Pisces and Aries. In helio chart, there's a mutable grand cross. Helio moon on Pholus. If you are interested, look it up.
If you think it's pointless, why even reply in this thread.
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Gabby
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posted March 06, 2014 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by JustAmanda1216:
Deep Freeze said... If he did in fact create the very stars and planets that affect us... He wouldn't need to be any sign. He could be beyond that.
I agree with what your saying, if God was talking to or trying to get beings that were his equal to understand him...but he wasn't, he was talking to us!
He got his point across in a way that we could relate to it, it was our lacking he was catering to...again just shows his love that he would adjust to us so we could understand his message!
In the same way you have to feed a baby, baby food so they can digest it God has had to feed us his messages in ways that we are familiar with or else our minds would reject his message just as a baby's digestive system rejects food it isn't ready for!
Our subconscious mind allows us to see what is "known" as what feels safe but anything unknown is perceived as a threat...even if it's good for us.
That's the fight or flight primitive part of the brain at work!
God stayed within the boundaries of what our minds could handle or digest so that we wouldn't perceive his word as a threat to our safety and refuse to allow his words into our hearts.
But still many saw Jesus and his message as threat anyway, that just highlights the levels of maturity or lack of enlightenment for the times, compared to the ones that could hear jesus message and not be afraid!
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DeepFreeze
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posted March 06, 2014 04:47 PM
I'll go preach somewhere else even though I talked about him astrologically. I guess if it's not FOR science it's not really allowed as part of the discussion. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted March 06, 2014 04:51 PM
I still think Aries.IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted March 06, 2014 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Yeah I know you a bit. I took it a little as both. I know it wasn't directed at me but I felt part of the group. All good.
Well, good.
I'll go back to minding my own business now, heh. That part about knowing me a bit made me laugh a little. Sometimes I just have to...ya know, throw in a comment from the Peanut Gallery.  IP: Logged |
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