posted March 19, 2014 02:48 AM            

This means the goverment in control of the media has actually been given official reason to put this on the news! (Aquarius) - I really don't understand how people are still going against this.

Anyway, interesting video, explains alot to newcomers aswell about the gravitational pull and the Earth and the Moons tilted axis which is the reason for the change and that Serpentarius (Ophiuchus) is a sign for us entering the Aquarian age.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co3obzAEOGs

I was born under this sign myself and so i know it is no rumor. Similar to Sagittarius but Serpentarius is completely different in Nature. A water sign not a fire sign, nowhere near as active or egotistical, passive and respects the feminine, with a key to harmony and brotherhood.

Ophiuchus is the key unto brotherhood for man in the age of Aquarius. Without Ophiuchus coming into the ecliptic over time we would still be in a masculine world where women have no rights!

posted March 19, 2014 02:54 AM            

Ophiuchus does have an opposite polarity, Orion, the shoulders, the other part of our entrance to the aquarian age.

Ophiuchus is ruled primarily by the stars;
Ras Alhague and Unukalhai. - Alpha Ophiuchii and Alpha Serpentis. (The Healer and the Snake)

Ophiuchus or Serpentarius is the sign connected to the Galactic Center.

Physically is your Ass and Sacral Plexus.
(The Galactic Center is your Anus )

Ophiuchus/Serpentarius deals with;

Healing, Kundalini, information, secrets, harmony, peace, feminine power, leading, respect for authority, building, genius, data, respect for women, passiveness, forming groups gathering information together, unknown sources and cycles.

Physically in the human species, Ophiuchus is the sign that deals with excretion. (Part of the cycles) and that is how and why it is the sign connected to the galactic center.

I.e: Ophiuchus gathers pieces of information together and then releases it as a whole, like i am doing now.

Basically i'm "excreting" all this information that I've gathered together through time out onto this forums.

and that is serious.

It is ruled by URANUS (Chiron could be a co-ruler)

Capricorn: Jan. 20-Feb. 16.
Aquarius: Feb. 16-March 11.
Pisces: March 11-April 18.
Aries: April 18-May 13.
Taurus: May 13-June 21.
Gemini: June 21-July 20.
Cancer: July 20-Aug. 10.
Leo: Aug. 10-Sept. 16.
Virgo: Sept. 16-Oct. 30.
Libra: Oct. 30-Nov. 23.
Scorpio: Nov. 23-29.
Serpentarius: Nov. 29-Dec. 17.
Sagittarius: Dec. 17-Jan. 19.

posted March 19, 2014 03:00 AM            

If you disagree then keep to the older zodiac signs and positions, or please explain why you do not agree with the change that is happening within our universe.

Astrology does work off of the seasons, that is why we still use the tropical chart, but it has absaloutely no put into Serpentarius not being a sign. Because there are 4 seasons does not mean there isn't 13-14 signs.

posted March 19, 2014 03:17 AM            

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Originally posted by ayujegeg:
Please. Its been old news forever. And you can believe what you want, nobody is stopping you.

I personally think it doesn't make sense as a 13th sign. It would be hard to redefine everything, with all the current connections with our current system.

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First off, i can see Ophiuchus instantly in the way you speak, at it is genuinely a part of humanity on Earth now.

posted March 19, 2014 03:29 AM            

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Originally posted by ayujegeg:
Please. Its been old news forever. And you can believe what you want, nobody is stopping you.

I personally think it doesn't make sense as a 13th sign. It would be hard to redefine everything, with all the current connections with our current system.

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I tend to agree. The zodiac is not only based on the seasons, but the balance of multiple energies. If you add Ophiuchus to the wheel, you would need to add 3 additional new signs, 4 additional new houses, and 1 completely new quality (cardinal, fixed, mutable, and parselmouth).

My Sun would be in Ophiuchus along with a few other important planets to me. When I first heard about its inclusion I got all excited and did lots of research/theory crafting. It just didn't balance out mathematically for me.

posted March 19, 2014 03:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
I tend to agree. The zodiac is not only based on the seasons, but the balance of multiple energies. If you add Ophiuchus to the wheel, you would need to add 3 additional new signs, 4 additional new houses, and 1 completely new quality (cardinal, fixed, mutable, and parselmouth).

My Sun would be in Ophiuchus along with a few other important planets to me. When I first heard about its inclusion I got all excited and did lots of research/theory crafting. It just didn't balance out mathematically for me.

If the inclusion of Ophiuchus is of some divine importance, then the universe is trying to obsolesce and destroy astrology as a balanced system (or telling us that the heir of Slytherin has returned).

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Since when was astrology a balanced system?
That is just the way the Romans saw it, and evidently was the way the stars were at the time.

The reason nothing has been previously made to bring Serpentarius in as a sign, is because it is a completely recent change tied in with the completely recent Aquarian age.

Ophiuchus completes the physical cycle within humanity.

You can quite clearly see here Ophiuchus is strongly connected to Aquarius. They are the two signs ruled by URANUS.

posted March 19, 2014 03:43 AM            

I am a scorpio through and through. that's the reason, and it's evident that people born under the current sun signs exhibit the sign's traits.

I shouldn't have to give you a logical explanation where it already doesn't compute in our zodiac wheel.

Please redefine ophiucus into our system with logical explanations. How does it work now with connections to other signs, sextiles, trines, conjuncts, oppositions?

posted March 19, 2014 03:51 AM            

The seasons were used at the beginning of the age of the Aries - Pisces because that was the main TWENTY SIX THOUSAND YEAR TRANSITION, the tropical and sidereal zodiacs were aligned.

This is two thousand years later, and they are now completely apart. Ophiuchus is active within humanity and i can not get you to see that without you understanding it yourself.

Watch any film, look in society, men are friendly together, it is the age of socializing, women have complete freedom in society and are moving into positions of power over men, we are in social groups and are respectful to one another.

posted March 19, 2014 03:54 AM            

Astrology was never used like that before and was recorded only by dials and the sky.

Now we are on the next transition, and are to develop astrology once again with the new information and changes, that they would of had to do on the Aries -Pisces transition, this is the change for the PISCES-AQUARIUS transition!

What matters is what is happening on our planet for us RIGHT NOW, now what was happening TWO THOUSAND YEARS AGO.

posted March 19, 2014 04:02 AM            

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Originally posted by ayujegeg:
I don't believe we are ready to integrate a new astrological system with 'Ophiucus' in it.

If you can invent it, great!

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I'm going to try, all that needs to be changed is the houses and signs split into 27.63 degree's, and Ophiuchus figured into the currently standing system, modes and duality's etc.

Ophiuchus does actually have an opposite polarity, Orion, but Orion doesn't seemed to have yet moved far enough onto the ecliptic.

One thought is that perhaps these changes won't officially happen until both Orion and Ophiuchus are tight on ecliptic.

Orion is your shoulders and is also playing a big part in the Aquarian age.

posted March 19, 2014 04:14 AM            

Trying to tell me that all of a sudden I'm cancerish is absurd and laughable I'm sorry to say. I am neither overly emotional like cancerians are nor am I homebound like they are. I don't retreat into a shell when I'm hurt. I display literally no cancerian traits whatsoever. My mom is a cancer and she has a strong sun and displays the emotional ups and downs very openly many a time. To say she is now a gemini who is all about logic is absurd to the maximum of absurdities. The very reason my super aquarian dad divorced her was because she was too emotional for him.

This would also then put many shy critical Virgos as Leos. I have seen way too many Virgos born in the days that are supposed to be "Leos" now in this new system that are. Still. Virgos. The criticism, discrimination, and, for the evolved ones, service is still there. They absolutely do not exhibit any characteristics of Leo. And Scorpio only lasting 7 days? Really? Come on! Now were just playing with Looney tunes! Sorry mystic but the zodiac isn't wrong

posted March 19, 2014 04:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Mystic_Cat:
Since when was astrology a balanced system?
That is just the way the Romans saw it, and evidently was the way the stars were at the time.

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Astrology as it is understood today is a balanced system and remains applicable based on balance. Back when people were looking up at the positions of the stars and relating them to the seasons, people were also performing human sacrifices to assure the sun would rise the next day. So alluding to the argument that the old ways are better or somehow more wise, is not a strong argument.

The Romans (and many others, up to modern astrologers) saw balance in astrology, because that is how astrology is applicable to a world based on balanced systems.

Anyone with a basic understanding of astrology or math can see that 13 signs do not equally fit into a 360 circle. I am not saying there isn't a place for Ophiuchus, I'm just saying it is up to you to find that place and then share your findings, along with the supporting evidence of those findings with us, if you are so inclined.

posted March 19, 2014 04:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Mystic_Cat:
I'm going to try, all that needs to be changed is the houses and signs split into 27.63 degree's, and Ophiuchus figured into the currently standing system, modes and duality's etc.

Ophiuchus does actually have an opposite polarity, Orion, but Orion doesn't seemed to have yet moved far enough onto the ecliptic.

One thought is that perhaps these changes won't officially happen until both Orion and Ophiuchus are tight on ecliptic.

Orion is your shoulders and is also playing a big part in the Aquarian age.

Though i'm hoping i haven't gone bonkers and that this will be done professionally before i get the chance.

It's really not that difficult to see i'm ruled by Uranus!

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posted March 19, 2014 04:26 AM            

"I'm an Ophiucus"
.. "You're a what..Ophicususs?"

posted March 19, 2014 04:31 AM            

Are you born into the Pisces or Aquarius generation?

You are a Cancer accurately! From a seasonal perspective you could be a Leo but accurately from the stars you are a Cancer.

My own mother is a Leo using the original system but i know she is a Cancer and so does she! She is ruled by the Breasts, and i can actually sense very Cancerian traits from you.

Though in terms of the seasons, yes we are the Signs that acustom to that, if you want to stick by the seasons and not go into any more depth and understanding than that, then you can. But i am part of the Pluto in Scorpio generation, and when i am in my adult years the world will be in a Pluto Scorpio society, thus the depth will need to be known of astrology. Which is what i am doing.

Perhaps you are Pluto in Virgo? Also the same as i'm mother, most Pluto in Virgos are actually more against that sort of depth and see it as not needed.

But for me, I have Pluto/Jupiter in Scorpio on my ascendant, a Serpentarius Sun and i'm born into the aquarian age, the way i see astrology must be COMPLETELY different from you, and i'm sure by the time i am older i'm sure there will be a very different perception and probably different ways to look at asrology, rather than sticking to one traditional system!

posted March 19, 2014 04:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Astrology as it is understood today is a balanced system and remains applicable based on balance. Back when people were looking up at the positions of the stars and relating them to the seasons, people were also performing human sacrifices to assure the sun would rise the next day. So alluding to the argument that the old ways are better or somehow more wise, is not a strong argument.

The Romans (and many others, up to modern astrologers) saw balance in astrology, because that is how astrology is applicable to a world based on balanced systems.

Anyone with a basic understanding of astrology or math can see that 13 signs do not equally fit into a 360 circle. I am not saying there isn't a place for Ophiuchus, I'm just saying it is up to you to find that place and then share your findings, along with the supporting evidence of those findings with us, if you are so inclined.

Additionally, the burden of proof is not with us, it's with you. I am confident with my Ophiuchus-less version of astrology, because up to this point astrology worked just fine. So fine in fact, you are posting on a site dedicated to a person who made a good living using a 12 sign system. Just saying, "I know it works cause I can feel it" and "see how this picture of Ganymede with swirling water around him looks like Asclepius dancing with a snake!" doesn't provide proof for how astrology remains functional as a 13 sign system.

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But we are now in the age of the future! We don't need to look at the past, that is a Pisces theme, not an Aquarius theme. We have the technology and scientific intelligence to view astrology and astronomy together as one science accurately, and not as it has been in the age of Pisces, drawing it back to the past ...