posted March 20, 2014 02:35 AM            

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Originally posted by arcturiann:
He doesn't, but what does matter is that your congressman/woman does, and that you vote for the ones that will represent your views and vote to pass bills that you want to see become laws for your state. That is if you are actually concerned with your personal rights and all that...

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but he's not openly against it, and his deep down personal opinions are irrelevant.
The only thing that matters is what you show the world.
Because he actually meets and talks to various youths of different subcultures on how to improve their situation.
Watch them on youtube.
you are going to be a symbol of a equality prove it.

Do you think Mitt Romney would even bother do do that with his open stance?

posted March 20, 2014 02:39 AM            

LOL with subcultures I mean with in our own country LoL x_X
And he has to get involved with other nations.

It's called diplomacy you should know that.
It's his job to play an ambassador too,

posted March 20, 2014 02:47 AM            

It's called he only won because he's black, plain and simple.

posted March 20, 2014 02:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
I'm not stupid I know what you meant I was just stating what every other American says about foreign affairs.

It's called he only won because he's black, plain and simple.

Yes ultimately it is the mayor and governors fault that's their job. But it's the president's fault if they're not getting the money and funds they need to help.

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posted March 20, 2014 10:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
but he's not openly against it, and his deep down personal opinions are irrelevant.
The only thing that matters is what you show the world.
Because he actually meets and talks to various youths of different subcultures on how to improve their situation.
Watch them on youtube.
you are going to be a symbol of a equality prove it.

Do you think Mitt Romney would even bother do do that with his open stance?

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A president is supposed to make favourable desicions for a country, be it social, economical etc. (which it dosen't appear that he has so far).

That he goes around talking to youths dosen't really make him a good president, nor does it make him a good person as an alterior motive is pretty obvious(publicity).

posted March 20, 2014 11:28 AM            

Obama's Leo sun and Gemini moon. Sounds familiar...

posted March 20, 2014 11:52 AM            

Then again, you can't read it if you are bias minded.

posted March 20, 2014 09:01 PM            

Obama>Bush
Obama is doing it a lot better

Obama reacted with a cool head and clear mind to Putin's provocations.
How would Bush handle that situation? I bet you know the answer

This:

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Originally posted by Odette:

It is usually wimpy men with wimpy placements - like detriment/weak Mars - who beat their chest and act cocky.

Water Sun men can ... put on an act like this as well.. because they feel inadequate & they try to overcompensate.

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Maybe we would be in WW3 right now, and everyone would be in danger, not only USA.
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P.D.
Romney sounded like an old car salesman
He's lame, not an alpha at all. Not even close.

posted March 20, 2014 09:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
No but I don't think beating on your chest makes you an alpha.

An alpha is successful at everything they do because they give a 110 percent.

I've yet to meet this mythical alpha male.. Im sure they are out there.

The thing is Alphas don't act cocky because that is unattractive to a large amount of people, and that would conflict with being successful at everything LOL

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I like this definition. A macho type is often pugnacious. Alpha is a star, seemingly, without trying. Aries is macho, not Alpha - they offend too many people who block their advance to any leadership position. Alpha is a General, Aries is a soldier. That said...

What I've noticed about Alpha's:

Born on the 1st, 10th, possible 19th day of the month. Or they have a 1 lifepath.

posted March 20, 2014 10:29 PM            

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Originally posted by lotus_flower:
Curious as to what rising signs you have encountered in your life that exemplified the essence of what a "manly man" would be? This is someone who is very in touch with being a "man" in a traditional fashion and displays these traits:

Refers to manliness often, saying they have to be "the man"
Supreme interest in sports
Macho
Always in control of environment or emotions
Gentlemanly; opening doors, pushes seats in
Looking out for women/protective role

What were the signs of the men you met, your your experiences and your reactions?

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While this doesn't answer the question it's fun (IMO) and these 2 macho males (counting the green guy at the end) might give people an idea on how to react to them (hopefully after they're done laughing):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO1QBTG6EXs

posted March 20, 2014 11:32 PM            

Anyway.....

I highlighted those characteristics in the original post because I actually know someone like this. The ladies love him, and men think he's cool. He doesn't come off as thinking he's cool, but he is definitely arrogant. Big on manners as well.

posted March 20, 2014 11:50 PM            

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Originally posted by lotus_flower:

Thanks all for SOOOOOOOO many interesting responses--particulalry the ones about Obama. I happen to really like him a lot--he has a lot of swagger in terms of personality; he is very likable. However I do not see him as an Alpha Male (perhaps that title would go to Clinton?)

Anyway.....

Lets carry on this discussion on the alpha males..............

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I do like Obama's personality. Fair-minded yet strong.
I like Clinton's also - even though he's kinda nuts lol.
Reagan had a strong presence that I dug too.

Of the three, I guess Clinton is the typical Alpha Male.

posted March 21, 2014 04:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Obama is a joke and is proof of how ridiculously racist our country still is. He only got that prize and is a 2 term president because he's black. Which is very sad. No one took his character, actions or beliefs into account, which is just utterly disgusting to me.

Manly men to me are men who provide for their families without ever even questioning it. They just do it. Someone who isn't afraid of getting his hands dirty. Someone who is also protective of his family. Just an all around man lol. Not these girly whimps nowadays.

Although I don't get along with my father he's very manly and what I envision of a manly man besides a few things. He's a Leo and as is my fiancé who is also what I call very manly and just perfect for me. So I'd say Leo men for sure. I know Obama is a Leo but after all the crap he's done I don't even count him. Capricorn's are very hard working so maybe even Capricorn men. Some Aries men I've seen. Libra men sort of, they're hard working but then the get lazy and start throwing around "fair rules".

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I'm just going to take a wild stab in the dark and guess that you haven't bothered to find out anything about Obama, except what some Anti Obama news source, maybe Fox news or some news paper that is funded, controlled, and edited by Republicans says.

If you ever decide you want to form an opinion for yourself, I would suggest reading one of his books, maybe 'The Audacity of Hope' or similar.

It is likely to be pro Obama as it is written by himself and or people who support him. At least take the time to look at the other side before jumping on to whichever Obama hating wagon told you what do or think.

Before you think that I'm some sort of Barack Obama lover, I'm not. I don't know enough about the man, he is slated by some sources, praised by others. There is more than one side to every story.

I'm not here to debate politics, because ultimately people get far to uptight about it. I just want to get people to think about using their own brains, reading and analytical skills to assess a variety of different views on the subject. Rather than just open their mouths and get spoon fed the same old hate mongering material that one source regurgitates again and again.

To keep this barely on track.

World may percieve Alpha Man as; cocky arrogant, reckless and confident, rude and dangerously adventurous.

My perception of an Alpha Man; Someone who doesn't need to be cocky or arrogant, is quietly confident in themselves and doesn't have to broadcast it to the world. Isn't reckless or rude or does stupidly dangerous stuff.
Someone who knows who he is, what he is about, and what he wants, without jumping around to prove himself or shove himself in anyone's face because ultimately, he is not bothered with having other people think highly of him.

posted March 21, 2014 05:00 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Interesting. I have always been fascinated by the fact that most people readily agree that cocky guys are insecure and annoying but those guys still seem to have a corner on the popularity market.

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People are insecure, let's take your example a cocky arrogant (insecure) guy vs a confident but humble ish (secure) guy. Would you rather date or be in a relationship with someone, knowing that they have weaknesses or would you rather be in a relationship with someone who is strong and secure.

In a world were people are trying to relate, someone who has insecurities would struggle to be with someone who is secure because they feel they can't relate to the secure person. "I worry about x y z and this and that, and you don't have any problems or any x y z."

I don't know if that came out well enough, but essentially I see it as some sort of power struggle, although it is in the form of, I want to be with someone at least as insecure or flawed as me. Like attracts like?
Maybe I am wrong.

So I feel with regards to your thoughts, if women or men like cocky arrogant men (insecure) it's because they know deep down that he is making up for his insecurities and or trying to prove himself, they know they can manipulate him to some extent.
Come up against someone who feels no need to prove himself or be cocky or arrogant, and what can these people do? They have no buttons to push or manipulate so they feel powerless or helpless.