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posted March 21, 2014 05:47 PM            

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Yeah thats a great answer "Pink looks feminine cause its not masculine" Anyway I'll just agree to disagree. At least you aren't parading in the street telling boys to strip their pink off, so I can rest peacefully with that.

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posted March 21, 2014 05:48 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
When I look at pink, it does not look like a masculine color at all. And I doubt my opinion would have been any different 100 or 150 years ago. And if you ask most guys they would tell you that blue is their favorite color. I think the "pink=girls and blue=boys" is here to stay because it works. Now the individual can wear what ever color they want but most guys wear darker colors (blues and reds) and women tend to wear lighter colors like pink. Thus we have "pink=girls and blue=boys.

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I wonder where you are from because all the rich people around here wear pastels guy or girl. Ever been inside a banana republic? But colors change with the trend and season, clothes in general change with the trend, its a societal thing and trends change fast. The only thing that men will agree with you from 100 to 1000 years ago is that women look best with less clothes on LOL.

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posted March 21, 2014 05:49 PM            

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Um I don't consider nail painting to be a masculine activity. Lmao

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posted March 21, 2014 05:59 PM            

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My dad was an aqua sun Leo moon/asc with Venus conjunct mars in cap. . He never let me use colored polish on him, but he loved getting manicures/pedicures and allowed clear polish for a fresh clean look and feel. He was one of the most manly, masculine, burly guys I've ever known, but his nails were always shiny and well manicured thanks to me

But with that said, I do find colored polish a bit "feminine" on men, but there are those who can pull it off. And I'd totally dig it for a night out at a club or concert, but as every day wear though? Eh, not my personal cupof tea.

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posted March 21, 2014 05:59 PM            

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I see guys wear pink or purple too. It doesn't matter to me.

Interesting story.
In Iowa City, Iowa. Back in the 80s and 90s university of Iowa football head coach Hayden Fry always kept the visiting team locker room painted pink. EVERYTHING imaginable was pink. Toilets, sinks, etc.
Some years ago a feminist lawyer I THINK... had a fit about it over the whole masculine/feminine thing. Assuming it was to make the other team feel feminine and play worse.
The truth was that Fry was educated in psychology and knew that pink was a calming color. It was to relax the other team and bring down their energy level. He made that clear many years earlier before the whole debate ever began.
I just thought that was interesting.

While I agree pink seems feminine simply because that's just what I've always been told. If I had grown up with being told that it doesn't matter then I may feel differently.
That all said, when I see a guy wearing pink I really don't think much of it. Although personally I wouldn't myself because it DOES draw attention and I don't really care to have that much attention.

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posted March 21, 2014 05:59 PM            

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I don't think color matters too much when it comes to clothes. I've yet to see a nursery for a boy that was pink. Or royal blue for a girl. So in a way I understand what he's saying. It's his opinion on it, he's an Aqua of course what we say doesn't matter to him anyway. LOL

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posted March 21, 2014 06:01 PM            

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Yeah thats a great answer "Pink looks feminine cause its not masculine" Anyway I'll just agree to disagree. At least you aren't parading in the street telling boys to strip their pink off, so I can rest peacefully with that.

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But its true.. Pink doesn't look masculine lol. Contrary to what feminism tells us gender behaviors are ingrained in our dna and societal programming has very little to do with it. For example a feminist would try to tell you that most boys only play with hot wheels and tonka trucks because their parents force them into that gender role. They also say the same about little girls and their dolls and easy bake ovens. Im a firm believer that most boys would choose to play with the truck or g.i joe over the barbie if he was left in a room by himself and most girls would choose the barbie in the same situation. Masculinity and Femininity are determined by what the majority of men and women are wearing and how they behave and carry themselves. Now some women and men are different and thats all well and good but the fact is they are different then most of their gender and thus less masculine or feminine.

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posted March 21, 2014 06:02 PM            

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I don't think color matters too much when it comes to clothes. I've yet to see a nursery for a boy that was pink. Or royal blue for a girl. So in a way I understand what he's saying. It's his opinion on it, he's an Aqua of course what we say doesn't matter to him anyway. LOL

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posted March 21, 2014 06:05 PM            

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It's the truth, I'm being serious lol

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posted March 21, 2014 06:14 PM            

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Hmm apparently this is about pink and blue now? Lol. ..

Styles change faster than the seasons (or rather with the seasons ) and socially acceptable norms change with those styles. I think its ridiculous for any color to be labelled specifically for either sex. That's the same thing as gangs claiming colors. .. just stupid.

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posted March 21, 2014 06:16 PM            

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It's the truth, I'm being serious lol

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Word. I don't think anyone here has ever changed his mind about anything lol

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posted March 21, 2014 06:18 PM            

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Word. I don't think anyone here has ever changed his mind about anything lol

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posted March 21, 2014 06:24 PM            

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But its true.. Pink doesn't look masculine lol. Contrary to what feminism tells us gender behaviors are ingrained in our dna and societal programming has very little to do with it. For example a feminist would try to tell you that most boys only play with hot wheels and tonka trucks because their parents force them into that gender role. They also say the same about little girls and their dolls and easy bake ovens. Im a firm believer that most boys would choose to play with the truck or g.i joe over the barbie if he was left in a room by himself and most girls would choose the barbie in the same situation. Masculinity and Femininity are determined by what the majority of men and women are wearing and how they behave and carry themselves. Now some women and men are different and thats all well and good but the fact is they are different then most of their gender and thus less masculine or feminine.

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posted March 21, 2014 06:35 PM            

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http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/when-did-girls-start-wearing-pink

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Thanks so much for that link, that finally explained something I'd been wondering about for many years now. It makes sense, especially after looking up more (like this).

But now I'm wondering why the Nazis chose pink for gay men...maybe they were just running out of colors, but my GUESS is that it tied into painting commies and socialists as immoral (gay) and red had already been taken for them (pink also included heterosexual rapists, paedophiles, people into animals, etc, but not female sex workers, they got black). Black was for asocials (especially the mentally & physically disabled and thus unable to work, prone to depression, etc), and even claimed by some lesbians today since women who didn't become housewives got the black triangle (yet black never became the sign of women, despite that Yin is dark/night/female so that there was more to promote that color, and I doubt it was what inspired the Beatniks to wear black). I've been looking around the net for that, too, but so far no luck. Maybe this is the new question to tease me for the next few years since the old one is no longer there to torment me.

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posted March 21, 2014 06:41 PM            

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And I doubt my opinion would have been any different 100 or 150 years ago

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posted March 21, 2014 06:43 PM            

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Hmm apparently this is about pink and blue now? Lol. ..

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posted March 21, 2014 06:56 PM            

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There's this guy that just wears black or deep blood red nail polish... (YAS IT'S A REAL COLOR.)

That's the literally only thing peculiar about him in terms of his style and personality..
His personality is kind of silent and mysterious.
A bit smug maybe.

It's just really fascinating to me..

Something to do with Gemini-third house?
maybe saturn in Aqua?
Nah he seems saturn in pisces age group.

I'll paint my nails too sometimes if I'm bored or someone wants to but everyday is like a major effort for me since I get get my nails messed up often anyways.

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posted March 21, 2014 07:08 PM            

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I'm sure the baroques wore a lot of pink, I'm wondering if it has something to do with Regency-Victorian periods. Anyway, I'm sure Continental Europe (particularly Latins) were always more flamboyant than England.

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posted March 21, 2014 07:08 PM            

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If the can gets opened ALL the worms fall out.

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Haha i know it and i wasn't surprised, just noting that i was behind on subjects lol

Everything is about blue and pink and here i am talking about giving my daddy mani/pedis lol

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posted March 21, 2014 07:11 PM            

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Well many people care.. They still buy pink for girls and blue for boys.

Lol @ 'who cares'
Why do you think it's being debated and people are writing about it?

Btw you guys should have a look at how outdated Aussie HS uniforms are. All private and most state high schools have gender specific uniforms.
There was a debate a couple of weeks ago about a school that actually prohibited girls from wearing pants - and they only left the dress/skirt as part of the official uniform for female students.

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Boys and girls in the public system wear the same thing here in Northern Australia, and I remember seeing it the first time and was shocked about it too as I'm a Southerner. They all look like they are wearing sports uniforms, all the same. The divide though is maintained in the private school system.

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posted March 22, 2014 03:46 AM            

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Gothic style ?
Has he scorpio influences?

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posted March 22, 2014 05:14 AM            

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Oh That's interesting. I've never been to NT.
I've lived in Adelaide, Melbourne, Sydney, Canberra and Brisbane.. and state schools do the - boys uniform vs girls uniform thing - as well as the private schools.
However all of these schools offer the option of wearing pants to their female students.. but the pants are always a different colour. So if the guys wear grey pants - the girls are wearing navy blue pants.

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posted March 23, 2014 11:50 PM            

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Pink used to be masculine, and blue used to be feminine. It's all societal conditioning.

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