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Free Leon
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posted March 21, 2018 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Free Leon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Aries Saturn at a max orb for a conjunction (9 degrees and some change) with Aries Moon, both in the 1st House (Aries Rising at 1st degree).

I've definitely felt Saturn restrict my ability to communicate my feelings/emotions when they are minor/mild. It feels like there is a barrier between my emotions and the outside world, with me right in the middle serving as a gatekeeper who often (and sometimes what feels like against my will), rejects what emotions are allowed to pass into the world.

With that being said, when my feelings/emotions are more intense (whether good or bad) they burst out of me rapidly, with no restraint felt on my part. Even my ability to communicate effectively is seemingly improved in those moments, as if the energy associated with that caliber of intensity gives me a mental boost in order to find any and all words I need to express myself. I suppose this can be attributed to all the Aries energy, so it doesn't have much to do with the Moon-Saturn aspect.

Given that this all takes place in the 1st House, with Saturn being 6 degrees away from my Ascendant, this makes me *come off as though I am extremely calm with hints of seriousness all the time, which actually is true, but with my Moon in the 1st House I do feel my external environment's influence on me very deeply, with a level of awareness to match.

I don't think Saturn in aspect to Moon prevents people from feeling emotions, but it can make it more difficult to express emotions. This can lead to a lack of understanding of one's emotions, and subsequently developing reticence, because these people do not get as much practice in expressing there emotions to begin with, so they don't have the necessary data from experience to know what their emotions actually are/can be after being expressed. It creates for a very uncomfortable internal standpoint when it comes to emotions. Also, given that the Moon represents the mother, I know from personal experience that my mom did not readily express deep emotions, so I never learned that as a behavior from her. It led to the expression of deep emotions being foreign to me, that is until my first deep relationships, when I began to feel for other people and learn from them. I'm still not the best when it comes to expressing my deepest emotions, but I've made large strides in improvement.

All in all, I believe Saturn in a positive/neutral aspect to the Moon can be a very good thing, because it can put a necessary leash on our emotions in many cases. Often times our emotions do not serve us for the better, instead they can distract and steer us away from our responsibilities, and beyond that our purpose in life. I perceive Saturn as the greatest benefic, because he has the best intention--alignment with the divine plan. If you're on top of your sh*t he'll stay out of your way, and even reward you in some cases, but if you're straying away from *the path (whatever that might be) then he'll crack down through circumstances/situations/obstacles/challenges until you're back on track. Even then, when you're on point, he'll throw lessons your way that pertain to the sign and house he is transiting within your chart, which is ok. That's a significant aspect of life--to learn the lessons/themes we came here to learn in order to progress along our soul's karmic path.

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Astrofiend
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posted March 21, 2018 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrofiend     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
Anyone with this aspect just feel like they dont have or understand emotions properly, i feel as hard as a rock. Being a sag i really dont like to show my emotions because i see it as a weakness, or makes me look so insecure to other people, or im just scared people will take advantage. At the same time it kind of feels like i have to show my emotions so people understand me better, but im scared of showing them. Saturn is in my 4th further emphasizing this emotionless person. I feel empty alot.

Moon in Scorpio and Moon square Saturn. I got positive minor aspects to my moon to counteract this but I still feel my Moon square Saturn parts.

I don't think we have a problem feeling emotions we have a problem showing it. Definitely view emotions as a weakness but it's a strength when used in a positive, effective way.

Emotions is your mind, body, conscious physical and subconscious nonphysical realms communicating with you. Listen to it. Don't run from it but don't let it take over you. Also you don't need to show everyone, only the people you trust.

@NeptunianSag: How old are you? did you have a bad childhood? Saturn in the 4th House can signify a difficult or bad childhood

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Melinn
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posted March 24, 2018 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No not at all in my case. I have saturn in 4th. Oppo my moon and mars and chiron in 10th. It's quite the opposite, I'm very emotional and often also very melancholic. If I'm sad I cry for ex, but also if I'm happy I cry aswell etc. Emotions are very complex things thats hard to explain and understand even for the person itself. Having my moon in 10th makes it very hard for my to conceal my emotions.

One thing I think is both mars and saturns doing is; when I'm very upset about something I may shut down on the outside, (but in the inside I will be screaming almost) until I have processed things, accepted them etc, then and this is saturn mars I think, I have to make up "strategies" on what to do next. And I have to go through step for step what I made wrong etc. That way I would say I'm very resillient. I always give time to myself to grieve and be upset and angry etc, I don't repress my feelings at all. . Then when I'm done I pick myself up and make up coping strategies, and it dwpwnds on the matter what type it ia. But I need order and action.

Also I have to talk about my emotions! (Gemini moon) Its when I can't talk about them that I go silent and putting up walls until I processed things.

But yes I too dislike crying in front of wven loved ones, I hate it but, it has happened so many tomes now that I don't care anymore. I like crying out things when I'm alone though.

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Randall
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posted March 29, 2018 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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Desiring Shadows
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posted May 07, 2018 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lets talk moon signs.
I went to a romantic movie where the one of the main characters die, with a Leo Sun, Moon Sagittarius/Capricorn, Aries Ascendant sister, and she cried during the movie.
I felt sad for the characters but I didn't cry...
I'm a Virgo sun, Moon Scorpio, Ascendant Taurus.
I heard its a psychological fact that people who are the strongest cry during movies. But for me it isn't true. Things have to be really really deep to hit me... Or it needs to be personal, like I can relate to it. Most situations I know no matter how sad or how accurately it portrayed, my life doesn't compare. And even if I did, I haven't walked their shoes, so I wouldn't understand their experience. I don't really pretend to feel what theyre feeling because I know for a fact no amount of pretend sorrow I'm experiencing could amount to what they are actually feeling. Maybe I'm just cold.
Ice cold. Sttt...
Moon-Square-Saturner

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Randall
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posted May 12, 2018 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you sure you're not a Cappy Moon?

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Desiring Shadows
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posted May 12, 2018 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK you are the cold one LOL just kidding
Yes in tropical I am moon in sagittarius and Vedic I am moon in Scorpio
Capricorn is a nice sign though

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Kannon McAfee
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posted May 13, 2018 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was born when Moon was in Capricorn and trine Saturn in Taurus. It's not that anyone doesn't have feelings with these aspects. I did/do, but once I hit puberty tended to keep things closed off. I was overly sincere, too eager to please parents/god; took things too seriously, but was definitely 'mature' for my age then.

The problem is partly that others tend to expect more emotion(al drama) from some of us when we don't want to be players in someone else's soap opera. We want to grow to a place where we know we can take some emotional risks without finding daggers in our backs or in their hands. Looking back, I don't have any regret or other-wishing for this during my adolescence. Children and teens can be unbelievably cruel. I got out of high school without my heart broken or my dreams about women shattered -- very important since I'm heterosexual and just a bit of a woman worshiper.

It is not that we ignore our emotions, but that we don't express them for the entertainment or gossip of others. We tend to want to grow and develop a more worthwhile experience in those areas of life where personal feelings matter most.

IF these Saturn influences upon Moon become too strong and you feel empty, numb, etc, then it has been taken too far -- the suppression or lack of openness and warmth with others. Time to start outgrowing that too.

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Soul Stars Astrology by The Declinations Guy
Declinations: because the planets move north and south of the celestial equator

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ChildofVenus
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posted May 13, 2018 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Couldn't Moon square Pluto cause this as well?

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