posted June 29, 2014 11:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Wild Horses:
Your chart sounds awesome, LionFish.

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posted June 29, 2014 11:07 AM              

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Originally posted by charlie:
Mine is in Libra conjunct Pluto. Not sure what to say about this other than that along with my Pluto sq Sun, Moon and Merc, I am "somewhat intense"...

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I once heard that this indicates that the beginning of your life was hard; your parents were likely to have been immature and not in tune with each other.

posted July 11, 2019 05:08 PM            

My Sun/Moon midpoint is at 26 degrees Cancer, 10th house. No aspects (major ones at least).

My Sun is in Gemini and my Moon in Virgo but I have Mercury, Mars and Midheaven conjunct in Cancer, so there's already a big Cancer influence in my chart. So idk really.

The Sabian is: A VIOLENT STORM IN A CANYON FILLED WITH EXPENSIVE HOMES.

The midpoint is conjunct True (oscillating) Lilith and asteroid Artemis.

The Sabian sounds a bit... iconoclastic. I'm not sure I identify with that very much. Sure I rebell against some aspects of standard society, but I wouldn't say I bring any violent storms. Nor have I so far been affected by any violent upheavals I don't think...

As for the conjunctions... Well, Lilith tends to make a splash in my chart, every shape of her. (Asteroid Lilith is conjunct my Sun, Waldemath is conjunct my Ascendant/SN and Mean BML makes exact aspects to Chiron, Venus and Jupiter.) So it doesn't really surprise me to see her on my Sun/Moon midpoint. And Artemis is just another virgin goddess showing up prominently in my chart. (Diana on IC, Vesta conjunct Sun, Hestia conjunct MC.) It's starting to look like a pattern... like my chart is trying to tell me something, lol!

posted July 12, 2019 02:13 AM            

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Good bump!

My Sun/Moon midpoint is at 26 degrees Cancer, 10th house. No aspects (major ones at least).

My Sun is in Gemini and my Moon in Virgo but I have Mercury, Mars and Midheaven conjunct in Cancer, so there's already a big Cancer influence in my chart. So idk really.

The Sabian is: A VIOLENT STORM IN A CANYON FILLED WITH EXPENSIVE HOMES.

The midpoint is conjunct True (oscillating) Lilith and asteroid Artemis.

The Sabian sounds a bit... iconoclastic. I'm not sure I identify with that very much. Sure I rebell against some aspects of standard society, but I wouldn't say I bring any violent storms. Nor have I so far been affected by any violent upheavals I don't think...

As for the conjunctions... Well, Lilith tends to make a splash in my chart, every shape of her. (Asteroid Lilith is conjunct my Sun, Waldemath is conjunct my Ascendant/SN and Mean BML makes exact aspects to Chiron, Venus and Jupiter.) So it doesn't really surprise me to see her on my Sun/Moon midpoint. And Artemis is just another virgin goddess showing up prominently in my chart. (Diana on IC, Vesta conjunct Sun, Hestia conjunct MC.) It's starting to look like a pattern... like my chart is trying to tell me something, lol!

And yeah, I do identify with both Lilith and Artemis. I'm a radical feminist and aromantic asexual... those are some very intrinsic parts of who I am.

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I think of the Midpoint as the point of "marriage" between the uninhibited expression of self (Sun) & limited contextual environment(Moon).

So in essence, the Sun/Moon is that one point where the uninhibited expression of self(Sun) and limited contextual environment(Moon) are in "agreement" or don't get in each other's way.

I actually think it is the point of "inner peace" or "inner harmony" spiritual disciplines come to describe in books etc.

I never thought of it as a "romantic" point, although being centred into it would attract good things(and romance being one of those things), it is not limited to that.

With your Sun in Gem & Moon in Virgo,the "uninhibited self" (Sun) would like to express ideas and thoughts without end(Gemini).

Its got a world of ideas that extend past this lifetime and encompass many other lifetimes stretching beyond what one can imagine.

The Moon however is contextual.Perhaps you are born into an environment obsessed with form(Earth), practicality and the minimalistic(Virgo)

So you feel you can't be as "scatterbrained" as you would like.You can't ponder on ideas and talk incessantly until the Sun goes down(Gem) as you have life to "organise", a job to go to and work to make a living off on(Virgo).

So how do these two find a suitable compromise?They find it in the 10th house(highest house in the chart).

Here you reach the peak of idea sharing, the expression of the most profound thoughts and being concerned with only the relevant & impactfulness of ones ideas.

You may be reaching to transmit your ideas to others in a way that makes you the "authority"(10th). This could be done by being the spokesperson(Sun in Gemini) at work(Moon in Virgo).

Virgo Moon will have you obsess about perfecting the expression of your ideas & ensuring that was is minimally said has the maximum impact.

Does this mean that you should be "focused" on your career? No. Everyone has the 10th house but many are unemployed whilst others are homeless etc. So I have never fully prescribed to the idea that the 10th is only all about "career".

The 10th to me just means that with whatever interaction you are involved in(work,family, relations) you seek to be the "authority". Or there is an "authority" theme that permeates throughout your life

It could be that you express yourself in a way that suggests that you don't just talk out of your a***. You think things through diligently and are BIG on grammar, proper diction and minimalism/keeping things simple etc.

It could also mean that you could be a person who is always concerned about the "authority" i.e what superiors think i.e Dad/Mom/Boss or even your "Higher" self (10th).

posted July 12, 2019 02:34 AM            

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Originally posted by diamondbaby:
Mine is in Libra. I don't identify with it at all.

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posted July 12, 2019 02:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
Mine is at 11 leo 3° away from my ic and I really can't identify with either. I definitely feel it when someone else aspects it though. My bf's nn is exactly on it (my juno is on his), my ex had his venus exactly on it, and my children's father had his ascendant a few degrees away so at least in synastry it plays a big role.

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Since you didn't include your Sun/Moon combo,I can't make a further analysis. But 3rd house close to Ic emphasize a "communication of feelings" theme in your life.

You could be someone who's way of feelings are very important to your sense of expression. The phrase "speaking your feelings" comes to mind. And you could find great relief in expressing how you feel or finding the right words to label an emotion or subjective experience etc.

Are you very talkative? Very likely mostly on the phone and exchanging messages with people? Always reading up on something on the internet or a person who likes to take their car and drive around the neighborhood often?

When you first met your hubby, did he feel like a sibling or more like family almost immediately? Is he Gemini or Gemini strong? Does he have lots of siblings?

People who touch our 3rd house/Ic tend to feel like people we grew up alongside of or can easily share childhood memories with. More especially when close to Ic, coz then they feel like "family". Is this the case with hubby?

Did you meet him through your cousin/brother/sister or uncle etc. As that still maintains the 3rd house/Ic theme as you met him through "family".

posted July 12, 2019 05:52 AM            

I like “death” because I know it’s the end of ONE road and the beginning to another.

I have an affinity for all things “hidden”. I might not know WHAT is hidden at first but I’ll guaranteed know that SOMETHING is hidden. And I’ll probe..

Some people find me alluring and others dangerous and uncomfortable and I think it’s the Lilith they see.

posted July 12, 2019 06:19 AM            

it's also interesting that with the other midpoint which falls in libra, I don't associate with it, because don't have any planets or angles in libra, but when people try to guess my zodiac sign, they pretty much always mention libra as the first or second choice!

posted July 12, 2019 06:33 AM            

Oh yes, the snake or other reptiles tend to appeal as choices for pets more than dogs or cats. There is a need for them to immerse themselves in the " essence" of life and not live in the "safe" spaces.

I know of an individual with Sun in 8th whose father was not there for him.At all. And it took him forever to forgive that. Trust is not easy for this native and there is a tendency to conceal his deep feelings through appearing flamboyant.

I don't know of Sun/Moon in 8th to be afraid lf death at all. Except it is not really "death" that is their attraction, its authenticity.

They may see "life" as the illusion and "death" the universal truth. And therein lies the rub..the search for a universal truth or authenticity.

This is not in the way that Sag does it i.e through "belief". With Sun in 8th, they don't want to close their eyes and "belief". They want to see everything that lies "beneath".

So they may be drawn to things beneath the surface i.e secrets, the workings of sexuality, death, murder, ghosts or hauntings, conspiracy theories, underground movies etc.

Sun/Moon in 8th may even love to have an address at a highly secret location or somewhere hard to find.

posted July 12, 2019 08:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Since you didn't include your Sun/Moon combo,I can't make a further analysis. But 3rd house close to Ic emphasize a "communication of feelings" theme in your life.

You could be someone who's way of feelings are very important to your sense of expression. The phrase "speaking your feelings" comes to mind. And you could find great relief in expressing how you feel or finding the right words to label an emotion or subjective experience etc.

Are you very talkative? Very likely mostly on the phone and exchanging messages with people? Always reading up on something on the internet or a person who likes to take their car and drive around the neighborhood often?

When you first met your hubby, did he feel like a sibling or more like family almost immediately? Is he Gemini or Gemini strong? Does he have lots of siblings?

People who touch our 3rd house/Ic tend to feel like people we grew up alongside of or can easily share childhood memories with. More especially when close to Ic, coz then they feel like "family". Is this the case with hubby?

Did you meet him through your cousin/brother/sister or uncle etc. As that still maintains the 3rd house/Ic theme as you met him through "family".

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I did meet him through my sister 😂 (we never married though) and come to think of it, I met them all through a family member and it did feel oddly familiar with each of them. It didn't even cross my mind to put that connection together from the 3H.
My sun is 22 taurus 12H and moon at 29 libra 6H

posted July 12, 2019 10:45 AM            

Yes that Mercury in 12th can certainly curtail the "talkative" part.Well at least in public.

Here an individual may "hide" from prying eyes in expressing their thoughts(12th) by choosing anonymity.

Mercury in 12th also has the gift of telepathy i.e one tends to "pick up" collective thoughts & can further find it difficult to distinguish between their own thoughts and those of others etc.

So solitude helps them replenish & get in touch with own thoughts better. Journal writing or video diarys may even be a preferred form of airing thoughts/views (but never for publication or public consumption. Not when alive. Preferably after death)

I have natal Mercury in the Draconic 12th. And I look at the Draco chart as an extension of the natal.

My natal Mercury is in 9th conjunct the Mc. I do want my opinion heard by many and am an exhaustive reader of various things. I like the soap box.

But paradoxically, I am also a fan of solitude & like recurring "alone time" to sort my own thoughts out.

I am not ALWAYS out in public voicing my opinion etc. My natal Sun is also conjunct Neptune. I express myself better in the background & far from people's eyes.

posted July 12, 2019 11:14 AM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
mine is exactly on my mercury in Aries at 23 degrees, so of course I associate with it

it's also interesting that with the other midpoint which falls in libra, I don't associate with it, because don't have any planets or angles in libra, but when people try to guess my zodiac sign, they pretty much always mention libra as the first or second choice!

I have s,m and ac in tau, pis, and leo...the only explanations I find are either my AC degree being in the Libra duad of leo, or having a planet right on my DC (7th) which tightly aspects my AC in opposition

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When Sun/Moon midpoint is on Mercury, a very endearing relationship/ marriage to a person within an occupation in communication/transport is strongly indicated.

Also likely are those in the education profession, publicists, authors or people working in the telecommunications field.

Like someone with Sun/Moon in 3rd, the relationship will likely have a "sibling" quality and one may even meet the person in the local neighborhood.Or it could be someone they went to high school with.

A strongly nervous disposition is suggested as are ailments that are related to Mercury i.e ear infections, injuries on externalities or shoulder injuries etc.

I got into a car accident when young(Mercury rules roads) when i was coming from school(Mercury) and injured my left hand as well as my head & shoulder (Mercury rules hands,arms & shoulders).

Mars rules accidents together with Uranus. Mars also rules the head(I have a head injury and so with Asc in Aries Mars is chart ruler)

Mercury is very prominent in my chart. And not to imply that this will happen to you. I was illustrating the correlation between Mercury and externalities.

posted July 12, 2019 11:38 AM            

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I think of the Midpoint as the point of "marriage" between the uninhibited expression of self (Sun) & limited contextual environment(Moon).

So in essence, the Sun/Moon is that one point where the uninhibited expression of self(Sun) and limited contextual environment(Moon) are in "agreement" or don't get in each other's way.

I actually think it is the point of "inner peace" or "inner harmony" spiritual disciplines come to describe in books etc.

I never thought of it as a "romantic" point, although being centred into it would attract good things(and romance being one of those things), it is not limited to that.

With your Sun in Gem & Moon in Virgo,the "uninhibited self" (Sun) would like to express ideas and thoughts without end(Gemini).

Its got a world of ideas that extend past this lifetime and encompass many other lifetimes stretching beyond what one can imagine.

The Moon however is contextual.Perhaps you are born into an environment obsessed with form(Earth), practicality and the minimalistic(Virgo)

So you feel you can't be as "scatterbrained" as you would like.You can't ponder on ideas and talk incessantly until the Sun goes down(Gem) as you have life to "organise", a job to go to and work to make a living off on(Virgo).

So how do these two find a suitable compromise?They find it in the 10th house(highest house in the chart).

Here you reach the peak of idea sharing, the expression of the most profound thoughts and being concerned with only the relevant & impactfulness of ones ideas.

You may be reaching to transmit your ideas to others in a way that makes you the "authority"(10th). This could be done by being the spokesperson(Sun in Gemini) at work(Moon in Virgo).

Virgo Moon will have you obsess about perfecting the expression of your ideas & ensuring that was is minimally said has the maximum impact.

Does this mean that you should be "focused" on your career? No. Everyone has the 10th house but many are unemployed whilst others are homeless etc. So I have never fully prescribed to the idea that the 10th is only all about "career".

The 10th to me just means that with whatever interaction you are involved in(work,family, relations) you seek to be the "authority". Or there is an "authority" theme that permeates throughout your life

It could be that you express yourself in a way that suggests that you don't just talk out of your a***. You think things through diligently and are BIG on grammar, proper diction and minimalism/keeping things simple etc.

It could also mean that you could be a person who is always concerned about the "authority" i.e what superiors think i.e Dad/Mom/Boss or even your "Higher" self (10th).

Incorporate all that with your Mars/Mc in Cancer

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Thank you for taking the time Aries23! What you write makes a lot of sense to me.

I'm actually lucky enough that I get to work in an area that suits me perfectly. Down to this midpoint. As a librarian I organise (virgo) information (gemini) all day long. I synthesise big chunks of info into neat litle packages... and the other way around too, I get scattered pieces of info from my customers and try to unfold and tie together to form a bigger picture. It's all just ridiculously rewarding for both my Gemini and my Virgo side! And the Cancer/Moon/12th house related intuition also comes to really good use, for those times when people ask for one thing but really mean another. So yeah, 10 house as related to career makes perfect sense in my case.

Authority is kind of a fraught thing for me. I'm a little rebel whenever I feel like there is someone who holds authority over me and tells me what to do or how I'm supposed to be. Nor am I myself very authoritarian... I'm not one to seek leadership or authority over others. I guess at some level I want to be seen as an authority, because I want to be seen as competent and efficient... but mostly I just want to have authority over myself.

posted July 12, 2019 03:38 PM            

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My Sun/Moon midpoint falls in Aries at about 8-9 degrees and in my 6th house.

It does make sense. Not sure how to associate it with me personally but my mom was an Aries (Sun, ASC, and Mercury in Aries) and it makes sense that my sun/moon would be there lol.

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I have Sun/Moon midpoint in 6th too (but mine is in Libra).

In 6th, one focuses a lot on issues of refinement.The individual is highly sensitized to the body & their sensory "feelers". They can tell when they are about to get sick and are sensitized to whether or not the body is recovering after taking medication etc.

This is the music composer who notices when a single instrument is "off key". This native pays careful attention & notices patterns; whether in change of behaviour, change of tone, person's mood or even change of season.

Some issues with Dad/Mom/Authority figures due to the native's heightened sensitivity or awareness as to how things "should" be done.

Maybe they come to know of what "parenthood" /authority is all about. They come to find out what those who tasked with the role are supposed to do etc.

Then they recognize the discrepancy of what they see from the conduct vs. what they have come to "know" go be "proper" and think "But this is not how it's SUPPOSED to be".

This "consciousness" of this discrepancy irks them to a point of obsession. As they notice the "faults" in their parents, the distress grows.As does the distant relationship with Mom/Dad /authority figures who start to sway to being both enemy and ally at the differing times.

Sun/Moon work best by themselves or usually self-disciplined to carry on work without supervision.

They can attract partners/friends from work or through a service rendered i.e the client may crush on them because of the level of professionalism they deliver that feels so "personal".

Marrying a co-worker, married to work, dating a nurse/doctor or holistic health specialist. Dating a gym instructor, a training facilitator, a dentist, an Editor or fashion blogger etc.Meeting someone at a worskshop, in a recupetative area, hospital or doctor's waiting room.

posted July 12, 2019 04:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
When Sun/Moon midpoint is on Mercury, a very endearing relationship/ marriage to a person within an occupation in communication/transport is strongly indicated.

Also likely are those in the education profession, publicists, authors or people working in the telecommunications field.
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A strongly nervous disposition is suggested as are ailments that are related to Mercury i.e ear infections, injuries on externalities or shoulder injuries etc.

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Aries23 this is so interesting because my last four relationships including the one I am currently with, have been with these types of men. the midpoint also falls in my 9th house (9th/3rd overall axis) and in a sense emphasizes the mercurian effect.

posted July 13, 2019 07:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Kikisaan:

Mine is at 28° Cap in 2nd house, conjunct my Mercury and Antivertex. Sun in Cap and Moon in Aqu.
I am not very talkative. Mercury is retrograde and my 3rd ruler is Neptune in 12th. But I'm thinking about talking to people the whole day. And writing many posts in forums, which I don't send.

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The 2nd house is typically connected to self esteem. With Sun/Moon there, themes pertaining to self-esteem(conversation you have with yourself),self-sustenance(ability to provide for yourself) and survival needs(4th house is emotional needs).

With Mercury conjunct, I wonder if self-encouragement words work with you i.e "I am wonderful" , "I can do it", " This is possible for me" etc. Since Mercury there does encourage "self-talk".

With Cap as the influencing sign however, you will have to activate a rampage of self appreciation a lot more often as Cap can be very negative. And Mercury just "photocopies" what it hears etc.

So be mindful about what you say to yourself, as the restrictions that you make on yourself & your abilities (2nd) are usually self-imposed i.e you only go as far as YOU let yourself go.

And this inability to express everything that you write is a part of that inhibition.The 2nd house Mercury can be slow to respond.Everything is thought of in a very thorough,practical, systematic way.

Perhaps not all is communicated(as a lot can be held back) but what comes out of your mouth or what you write(which is actually the preferred method of communication ecause of its tangible and easy to referenced format) is actually very valuable(2nd)

Believe in your abilities as an orator or writer. This life may ground you to come to that realization by having you make a living through some sort of communication or message-sharing avenue.

Are you working in an editorial space? A magazine, a communications firm, as a teacher or communications department?

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Do tell what your profession is ?

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posted July 13, 2019 11:44 AM            

Aries23 .. You're really on fire!
Excellent sense.