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Topic: Do you identify with your sun/moon midpoint?!
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Melinn Knowflake Posts: 1366 From: Registered: Jul 2017
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posted July 13, 2019 03:28 PM
Yes Aries23 so much great information you give us to process! <3My sun-moon midpoint is 0 gemini, which falls in my 9th house last few degrees (Placidus) and is 7 degrees from my MC. I have not many clues as what it means. I already have a stellium in gemini 10th. Sun and Merc in my 9th. I'm not sure if my midpoint is to be counted as in 9th or on my MC, any advice how to know? Also I have a friend and his sun-moon midpoint is in Gemini smack on his IC, that seems very interesting! Unfortunately I have no clue how to read midpoints :/
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 9184 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 14, 2019 05:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by Kikisaan: Nothing!I'm 49 and never had a job, never earned money, no friends, no r/s, nothing. I studied electrical engineering and laws, but did not finish both. Noone cares what i am doing, and never did. Except they could laugh about me. I am not sick or stupid, just forgotten. I hate it and want to change it every day. But without knowing what to do and if there is something I can do what has a worth or someone values, there is no path to choose. Sorry for my poor english.
Sun/Moon midpoint in 2nd is really about self esteem. My friend has Sun/Moon in 2nd and he has battled with issues of self-esteem for as long as I have known him. What I have observed however about this midpoint is that is gears the native towards amassing "stuff". This to blanket themselves from the feelings of inadequacy. So the more they "have", the better they feel.And naturally then the less they "have",the more they question their own abilities to self-sustain. Therefore then their "worth" as living beings I can't tell you to "feel better" and expect that. But i can say that the theme of self-esteem will revert to you time and again. So you may have to learn to pick yourself up by your bootstraps more than once. And even as you "acquire" things and amass what you want. What will be clear is that happiness doesn't come from these things, no matter how much you amass. Self-praise and self-talk as I said earlier may help. Mantras and self-help books can also raise the sense of self-appreciation and even sustain it. I really hope you come to a point of feeling better  IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 9184 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 14, 2019 05:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by mirage29: Kikisaan {{ !}} …Aries23 .. You're really on fire! Excellent sense. Sun Gem H6taur / Moon Virgo H(9)Leo = MP 1+ Leo H8canc
Is your midpoint in House 8. Didn't quite get that.
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 9184 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 14, 2019 05:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by Melinn: Yes Aries23 so much great information you give us to process! <3My sun-moon midpoint is 0 gemini, which falls in my 9th house last few degrees (Placidus) and is 7 degrees from my MC. I have not many clues as what it means. I already have a stellium in gemini 10th. Sun and Merc in my 9th. I'm not sure if my midpoint is to be counted as in 9th or on my MC, any advice how to know? Also I have a friend and his sun-moon midpoint is in Gemini smack on his IC, that seems very interesting! Unfortunately I have no clue how to read midpoints :/
I would take Sun/Moon midpoint to be in house 9 tbh. But test the theory to see if it applies. The Sun/Moon midpoint in 9th would gear one towards exhaustive studying or an avenue where one continually "expands" their outlook in typically broad issues. There is a Moon in 9th I know who is a diplomatic. Whilst another works at a travel agency. So both cover "expansion" outside their known worlds. If themes in your life are constantly about integrating your view of the world with an ideology that is "all inclusive". Then 9th house is strong. 9th house people also have some issues with established ideologies(for good or ill). These include politics,religion,the role of women in society, patriarchal rule or the law etc. It is usually a midpoint that doesn't chit chat about dishes or the latest duvet cover they bought at the local flee market etc. Their concern is the war in Senegal, Export tax on 3rd world countries, the collapse of the commonwealth etc. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 9184 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 14, 2019 05:48 AM
As for your friend, there is already a post I wrote on this thread about someone with Sun/Moon in 3rd conjunct Ic.So unless there is another planet involved therein, much of what I said there could I appy to them. 3rd house close to Ic emphasize a "communication of feelings" theme in your life. You could be someone who's way of feelings are very important to your sense of expression. The phrase "speaking your feelings" comes to mind. And you could find great relief in expressing how you feel or finding the right words to label an emotion or subjective experience etc. Are you very talkative? Very likely mostly on the phone and exchanging messages with people? Always reading up on something on the internet or a person who likes to take their car and drive around the neighborhood often? Add to this there could a significant role that siblings/ neighbors/uncles/aunts or cousins play in your life. Either they took care of you or you take care of them. Or there could be a lot of communication that goes on with the people in the listed group. IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 15143 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted July 14, 2019 09:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Is your midpoint in House 8. Didn't quite get that.
Thanks, Aries23! Sun Gem H6taur / Moon Virgo H(9)Leo = MP 1+ Leo H8canc {H8canc = Cancer on cusp of H8} Sun Gemini, Moon Virgo; MP = 8th House {in Leo}
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 9184 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 16, 2019 03:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by mirage29: Thanks, Aries23! Sun Gem H6taur / Moon Virgo H(9)Leo = MP 1+ Leo H8canc {H8canc = Cancer on cusp of H8} Sun Gemini, Moon Virgo; MP = 8th House {in Leo}
8th house Sun/Moon midpoint is a placement that is concerned with living as close to an authentic life as possible. In many ways for this to come true, there is a level of heartache and pain that the native goes through. Its like they signed a "cosmic" contract to go through the underbelly of life i.e go through loss through death, security, health etc. There is clarity reached through this avenue. Its like a candle being lit in the dark burns brighter than in the light.So the crises they face often sparks inner awareness & through the darkness,there is unparalleled wisdom. Its a tough house and not for the faint of heart. And at times these people may feel like they are living on the very edge of where the birth of death starts and end of Life happens. Living from the heart is emphasized greatly with this placement. As is opening up to true emotional expression. This especially when others don't want to own up to it.
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kani Knowflake Posts: 1050 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted September 24, 2019 11:27 AM
I dont identify with the sign my mp is in really. It's in Taurus (like many other important mps) and I definitely lack taurean traits. I'm not very grounded, definitely not slow and steady but rather fast and unsteady. I like Taurean energy probably because I lack it. I'm also too impulsive and reactive and spontaneous. The mp is in the 11th and since I can remember I was always considered a weirdo and always felt like an outcast. IP: Logged |
lilithbabe Knowflake Posts: 124 From: NYC Registered: Sep 2020
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posted March 05, 2022 07:20 PM
My Sun/Moon midpoint is exactly conjunct my Black Moon Lilith at 22 Pisces.I certainly identify with this placement. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosionV2 Knowflake Posts: 1832 From: Registered: Jul 2021
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posted March 05, 2022 08:43 PM
It's not that the Sun Moon midpoint says anything directly about your character or personality, but rather that it is a sensitive point of integration, and perhaps the themes of the Sign and House it is in (or close conjunctions with a Planet) represent an avenue through which we can come to a greater integration and balance between these very different, but fundamental parts of ourselves (and one definitely more Yang and one more Yin). I find that these areas become even more apparent in relationships and via synastry, and it is a sensitive point in same. My S/M-MP is in late Scorpio close to my Uranus and in my 4th. "Home" has long been sore area for me. Sexual and/or energetic merging (Scorpio) with others (Uranus rules my Venus and Desc) has also been a complex and intense area for me. This article by Dawn Bodrogi is an excellent one about this point in general, but especially in relation to synastry http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/12/04/synastry-q-a-the-soli-lunar-midpoint/ I often say there is a lot of not so good astro stuff out there online, but her site and articles are not in that category. It is some of the better, or even best stuff out there. I would have very much have liked to known her as she seemed like a kindred spirit. Definitely an older, and rather perceptive soul. I know a lot of people say they really like Jewell's stuff on Youtube, but imo, Dawn was on another level with both synastry and general interpretation. IP: Logged |
kani Knowflake Posts: 1050 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted March 06, 2022 03:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2: It's not that the Sun Moon midpoint says anything directly about your character or personality, but rather that it is a sensitive point of integration, and perhaps the themes of the Sign and House it is in (or close conjunctions with a Planet) represent an avenue through which we can come to a greater integration and balance between these very different, but fundamental parts of ourselves (and one definitely more Yang and one more Yin). I find that these areas become even more apparent in relationships and via synastry, and it is a sensitive point in same.
I agree with that. My S/M mp is in Taurus and in my 11th house. My personality is very far away from Taurus energy but I do attract that energy and I have noticed that there are characteristics of Taurus that I should integrate into my personality, for example: work on my impulsivity, be less hasty, think stuff through, develop patience etc. Then the 11th house thing: I have always been somewhat of a weirdo and an outcast and I never had an issue with it so I don't know what that is supposed to mean IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosionV2 Knowflake Posts: 1832 From: Registered: Jul 2021
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posted March 07, 2022 11:36 PM
Makes sense Kani. Thank you for sharing. I have a harder time differentiating in my case, since I also have Scorpio IC, and Uranus, the ruler of my Venus (which rules my Moon and MC) and Desc also in Scorpio. IC is part of person's deeper and influential psychological roots, but often in a more shadow/unconscious way. Another, simple, way of saying it is something like, "Leonine by day, but Scorpio by night." Clearly self is meant to be more conscious of and to integrate more those Scorpio and Uranian roots. IP: Logged |
MoonMystic Knowflake Posts: 6470 From: ♏ Rising Registered: Nov 2016
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posted March 08, 2022 02:12 PM
Considering my Sun/Moon are in a fairly close Cnj, maybe so. I have asteroid Amor smack in the middle. Yes, I identify, hopeless romantic in my luminary midpoints (h3). *Facepalm*IP: Logged |
StoneMoon Knowflake Posts: 866 From: Registered: Apr 2018
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posted March 11, 2022 05:04 PM
Not having been aware of astrology until my later years... My Sun(8th) is opposite Moon (2nd), which points the MP in 5th/11th axis of Libra/Aries. I do feel very Aries often, but Mars is my ruler. I don't feel very Libra, but especially lately I attract a lot of Libra. It's an energy I need because I do tend to live in the yang/masculine side of things. I can be very Aries like, always active, assertive, driven, and I do take care of my own needs. I am learning balance, harmony, and Libran things. I do have Venus conjunct MC so hopefully that helps me somehow!
Bcs my Sun and moon are opposite, the MP, and any planet that activates it in synastry, triggers my opposition. IT forces me to find balance again... and I seem to prefer the single point on synastry to create a T-square as opposed to finding two planets on each side, creating the grand square. I guess that illustrates my 11th house MP... I don't want to be locked in or boxed in... I prefer freedom and the ability to be me and on my own. IP: Logged |
peregrine Newflake Posts: 16 From: Registered: Mar 2022
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posted March 12, 2022 01:19 PM
I’m late to this party, but I want to play. Mines kind of boring though… sun is in 5H Capricorn and moon is in 6H Aquarius, midpoint is in 5H Aquarius at 3 degrees, so conjunct fixed star Giedi if that means anything. My son’s Mercury is there as well. I guess I could see myself as a 5H Aquarius, sounds like the more fun combination. Though I’m pretty quiet in person until you get to know me. I wouldn’t necessarily call myself shy though. I do feel a strong urge to express myself creatively and to be different and unusual in unexpected ways.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 155366 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 25, 2022 02:03 PM
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