posted May 09, 2014 07:13 AM              

Complementary pairs reflect the Yin/Yang principle, masculine vs. feminine.

There are three types of complementary pairs:

1. Natal. The same pair with a different or similar aspect. Ex. One has Moon conjunct Mars, the other has Moon trine Mars. "Siamese" pairs.

2. Natal. Archetype pairs, Yin/Yang. One has Venus square Pluto, the other has Mars conjunct Pluto. "Key-to-lock" pairs (Ceridwen's concept)

3. Synastry. Complementary synastric pairs (Cappy's suggestion):

Woman's Mars trines man's Pluto
Man's Venus conjunct woman's Pluto
or
Woman's Venus opposite man's Jupiter
Man's Mars trine woman's Jupiter
or
Woman's Moon square man's Mars
Man's Sun square woman's Venus
(various Yin/Yang combinations)

The same could go for love asteroid pairs:

Eros/Psyche
Amor/Psyche
Cupido/Psyche
Juno/Jupiter
h21/h22: BML/Priapus

for example: One has Eros conjunct Mars, the other has Psyche trine Mars (or Venus).

and all the other asteroids to your heart's delight:

Pluto-Persephone(26),Proserpina(399)
Adam(1996)-Eva(164)
Adonis(2101)-Aphrodite(1388), Ishtar(7088), Innamen(3497), Astarte(672)
Ariadne(43)-Dionysos(2063), Bacchus(3671)
Caesar(18458)-Kleopatra(216)
King(2305)-Queen(5457)
Ulysses (5254), Odysseus(1143)-Penelope(201)
Orpheus(3361)-Eurydike(75)
Siva (1170), Rudra (2629)Kaali (4227),Parvati (2847)
Osiris (1923)-Isis(42)
etc.

posted May 09, 2014 08:12 AM            

1) Mr.Uranus and me.

Me - Sun trine Mars
Him - Sun trine Mars

Me - Sun square Neptune
Him - Sun square Neptune

Me - Moon conjunct Jupiter
Him - Sun square Jupiter

Me - Moon sextile Mercury
Him - Moon square Mercury

Me - Moon sextile Mars
Him - Moon sextile Mars

Me - Moon square Pluto
Him - Moon square Pluto

Me - Venus sextile Jupiter
Him - Venus sextile Jupiter

Me - Venus square Uranus (wide)
Him - Venus square Uranus

Me - Moon conjunct Eros
Him - Moon conjunct Psyche

Me - Pluto square Proserpina
Him - Pluto trine Proserpina

posted May 09, 2014 08:24 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Selene, is Mr.Uranus the one in that beautiful synastry you posted in the Twinflame thread?

I see you have a lot of "siamese" pairs: the same aspect.

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No, Mr.Uranus is my past life love and all. We're friends now. I've yet to see what complementary pairs are there with the New guy.

posted May 09, 2014 08:25 AM              

However I do think for a complementary attraction to occur, you will also need the key-and-lock, pairings like Venus-Jupiter vs Mars-Jupiter for example.

posted May 09, 2014 08:30 AM              

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Originally posted by Selene:

No, Mr.Uranus is my past life love and all. We're friends now. I've yet to see what complementary pairs are there with the New guy.

Yes, i guess these "seamese" aspects are what makes us so similar, despite the fact that he's an Aries, whereas i am a typical Libra.

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posted May 09, 2014 08:31 AM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

However I do think for a complementary attraction to occur, you will also need the key-and-lock, pairings like Venus-Jupiter vs Mars-Jupiter for example.

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posted May 09, 2014 08:32 AM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I`d also check houserulers.5th-11th, 2nd-8th, 7th-1st,10th-4th especially.

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posted May 09, 2014 08:35 AM            

Me - Sun trine Psyche, Moon conjunct Eros
Him - Sun opposite Psyche (on my ASC/DSC axes, lol) + a wide Eros-Psyche conjunction in synastry (4 degrees)

Me - Moon sextile Mercury
Him - Moon trine Mercury

Me - Moon sextile Mars, Sun trine Mars
Him - Moon trine Mars - actually this pair is epmphasized, because there is also a respective trine between them in our synastry = My Sun conjunct his Mars, that trines my Mars conjunct his Moon!

Me - Sun square Saturn
Him - Moon trine Saturn

Me - Mercury trine Mars
Him - Mercury trine Mars - this is quite great as well, because together makes for a grand trine (His Mercury trines my Mars as well, and our Marses are trined too, just as our Mercuries are)

Me - Mercury sextile Jupiter
Him - Mercury square Jupiter (not so great, as Jupiters are in an exact square)

Me - Mars quincunx Pluto
Him - Mars conjunct Pluto

In synastry an interesting DW - His Uranus conjunct my IC, my Uranus conjunct his MC

posted May 09, 2014 08:47 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
totally agree! the "key-and-lock" pairs are the real deal.

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posted May 09, 2014 08:50 AM              

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Originally posted by tgem:
Do you mean in synastry or in each person's natal?

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posted May 09, 2014 09:11 AM              

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Should it be 2 hard aspects or 2 soft aspects or is it irrevelant?

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posted May 09, 2014 09:26 AM              

I noticed that Mr Sag and me BOTH have the ruler of 5th and 11th house square in natal. I am pretty sure that means something. Well I am pretty sure I know WHAT it means even.
For him this conflict takes place on the field of the 7th house (11th house ruler) and the 10th house (5th house)
For me it manifests in the 1st house (5th house ruler) and the 10th house (11th house ruler).

It is a mix of same and complementary as a matter of fact. A lot of mirroring going on there for sure.
For example both having 5th-tension-11th definitely is a common theme.
However for him it is the 5th house ruler in 10th, for me the 11th house ruler in 10th - complementary, manifesting on 10th house level.

You could also say that the tension manifests on 1st-10th for me, 7th - 10th for him. 7th-1st is of course complementary.

In short words what it means is that there is an internal conflict about how to give and receive love, or more precisley, the feeling and question of: Am I worthy to receive love? How valuable am I to others in this context?

That is just natally, consequently, though that is not a given with houserulerships, the theme comes up in composite again, as the end-dispositor of the composite chart actually is a mutual reception of Mercury in Sagittarius in 11th and Jupier in Gemini in 5th.
So the 5th-11th-issue turns up again.
Actualyl the 2nd-8th also play into this. So the whole succedent cross involved. It is quite huge as a theme.

Synastrically I would OF COURSE check for aspects to the rulers, too.
But it really has to start with the natals and the themes there.
If it is big, it usually gets reinforced, like your Venus/Pluto theme.

both Venus square Pluto natally
His 2nd house ruler squares his 8th house ruler
my 2nd house ruler quinkunx my 8th house ruler
there is more assosicated with this, especially a CAncer-Capricorn, Moon-Saturn-theme, which feeds into another themecomplex.

synastrically our 8th house rulers are trine; our 2nd house rulers are in opposit signs, though not in actual aspect.
his 8th house ruler squares my 2nd house ruler; (affecting his 7th and 5th house; affecting my 10th and 8th house; it seems to also imply that he is "taking over" the role of the 8th house, and me the 2nd house role, synastrically speaking).

in composite:
Venus square Pluto (12th to 8th house).

Ruler of 2nd house in 11th house;
Ruler of 8th house in 11th house
(with the ruler of 11th house being the dispositor of so many planets and being placed in 5th house).

Ruler of 2nd house conjunct ruler of 5th house and 8th house (in 11th house and widely opposite ruler of 11th house itself).

Ruler of 8th house (and 5th house) conjunct ruler of 2nd house and widely opp. ruler of 11th house.

Quite a web right there.

5th-11th is of course resonating with Sun-Uranus, which is also emphasized by the Aquarius-ASC with Uranus in Scorpio, quinkunx the endispositor in 5th house.

I know it reads complicated.

I just wanted to say ther is a definite theme there. Probably not every Venus-Pluto-natal aspect gets backed up like this, but if it does I would pay extra attention.

It is just another dimension right there.

posted May 09, 2014 09:29 AM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
No, it doesn't matter, any major aspect, important minors could be there too, maybe.

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Yes, it does matter, I think so.

However first of all it is important there is an aspect at all, which makes a connection. So in this way, it really doesn´t matter.

But a soft aspect is going to be expressed differently than a challenging one, but maybe that could even be a good thing, for one person might have a bit of amore calming soothing influence.

posted May 09, 2014 09:55 AM              

Siamese:

Her Sun opposite Uranus
Him Sun square Uranus

Her Moon conjunct Pluto
Him Moon square Pluto

Her Mars quincunx Pluto
Him Mars trine Pluto

Key-and-lock:

Her Sun conjunct Jupiter
Him Moon trine Jupiter

Her Sun opposite Uranus
Him Moon opposite Uranus
I love this one! (my parents - born 9 years apart)

Her Moon sextile Neptune
Him Sun quincunx Neptune

Her Venus square Saturn
Him Mars trine Saturn

And MY ALL TIME FAVORITE

Her
Sun conjunct Psyche (3)
Venus conjunct Eros (5)

Him
Sun conjunct Eros exact
Venus conjunct Psyche (9)

posted May 09, 2014 10:06 AM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes, it does matter, I think so.

However first of all it is important there is an aspect at all, which makes a connection. So in this way, it really doesn´t matter.

But a soft aspect is going to be expressed differently than a challenging one, but maybe that could even be a good thing, for one person might have a bit of amore calming soothing influence.

A square between Moon and Saturn might be just too defensive and painful, and if both people have it, it could get very heavy. However if one opartner had the trine, they might understand what the other person is about, because they share it to a certain degree, but somehow can cope with it in a more harmonious way, and that might ease thngs a little.

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I totally agree. The best combination with a more difficult (psychologically) hard aspect - like Saturn or Pluto to Moon or Venus - is the other partner coming with a soft aspect between those two planets, teaching the other, by their interaction, how to integrate the hard aspect in the psyche, since soft aspects are mostly psychological while the hard ones, being actional, are sometimes more difficult to integrate in one's psychology in a harmonious manner.

What I meant is it doesn't have to be "both having a hard aspect" or "both having a soft aspect". On the contrary, as Ceri says, hard and soft can be very complementary.

Of course it's not bad to have hard/hard and soft/soft either, depending on the planets involved. For example, someone with Mars square Pluto can be complementary with someone with Mars square Pluto or Mars opp. Pluto, if the hard aspects are well integrated within the individual, so that they won't beat each other to death. Instead, they could have the same physical stamina and strength for a variety of activities.

posted May 09, 2014 10:13 AM              

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Originally posted by Selene:
Lee Leo, do you really count a 9 degree conjunction between Venus/Psyche?

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In this case, I do, because of the DW. My rule with DW is: when there's a possibility for a DW, even if it implies using a larger orb, then it is a DW.

Of course, most asteroids are being used with a max. 3 deg. orb. But I have a special treatment for Eros and Psyche I use in my charts: the normal orb for planets. Sometimes Eros and Psyche in the same sign matter, especially if you have a cross aspect.

Anyway, the focus of my astrological work now, is synastry and love mandalas: a geometry of love. When you start working on geometry, you begin to notice that tight orbs count less, because geometrical figures stand out and they sometimes catch midpoints for example, so you go beyond tight conjunctions etc.