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3333
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posted May 10, 2014 12:43 PM
  
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Originally posted by Gabby:
I thinks it best to get everything out in the open, you have 2 choices...
1) leave everything as is, and continue feeling like you do
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2) take the chance by talking to him and maybe it gets better, maybe not but right not your miserable not knowing so how will it be any different unless you try to talk. If it doesn't work, you'll be in the same place you already are, if it does work, you'll be happy! So what is there to lose?
Well i want to talk to him but i dont know if its right or not  The sure thing is that i dont want to be hurt once again :/!Thats why i am in dilemma and because this guy might not know that what he is doing is hurting me...i remember one time we walked through the class and we were talking(he started the conversion) i told him to do everything he wants but at the same time wont hurt other people's feelings and he said you are right... i think he didnt understand the point if my ph
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SilverFeather
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posted May 10, 2014 04:45 PM
Well from my own experience as a Sag with an Air moon sign and as a Sag who dated other Sags, I would say he might be giving off that cold vibe unintentionally. We're very friendly people even with those we don't really like so I don't think he's being mean to you on purpose.I believe it's his Scorpio Venus and Virgo Mars at work. those two placements are pretty hard to understand and can get quite confusing in how they express themselves. I also have Mercury in Sag but unlike your guy here, I have Venus and Mars in Sag as well so my self-expression flows more easily than his. I think you should ask him face-to-face, if he's true to his sun sign,he will surely appreciate your straight-forwardness. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted May 10, 2014 05:16 PM
I don't think anything will get better by talking to him, because in my opinion it's very unlikely that a 17 yr old boy, with his extra mutable chart will be able to either:- understand you are upset, apologise and change, or
- truthfully explain himself and his behaviour towards you out loud.. in a way that actually makes sense This is the kind of situation in life when you have to learn to detach from things and not take anything he does to heart. I understand you feel genuinely hurt. But the only way to heal is to detach and stop making your happiness dependant on whether or not he gives you attention. As long as you are so focused on him and what he does - like whether or not he 'likes' a pic on FB or whatever else - you'll always end up disappointed. He is not a consistent person because he isn't 'fixed' like you are.
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amelia28
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posted May 10, 2014 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by 3333:
He was born on 1996 he will be 18 on november as I!
Oh it could be purely immaturity.....or maybe he thinks you dont like him so he behaves like a douche. or he is just a douche bc he is 18 LOL IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted May 10, 2014 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by Gabby:
I thinks it best to get everything out in the open, you have 2 choices...
1) leave everything as is, and continue feeling like you do
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2) take the chance by talking to him and maybe it gets better, maybe not but right not your miserable not knowing so how will it be any different unless you try to talk. If it doesn't work, you'll be in the same place you already are, if it does work, you'll be happy! So what is there to lose?
I disagree. She will not "continue feeling as she does" if she leaves everything... nor will she feel better by talking to him.
What is there to lose? Well first of all she could talk to him, get no result out of it at all - other than a "shrug I have no idea what this is about" - and still feel exactly as she does... except he could become even more standoffish because mutable guys tend freak out when they realize someone has *expectations* from them. She is reacting in a very hurt and emotional way to feeling rejected. You just can't allow your personal happiness to be so dependant on someone else and the stupid, intentional or perhaps unintentional things they do. This whole thing could still be unintentional, but that's irrelevant. What's important, 3333 is that you don't continue to make this guy the centre of your world.
Who cares whether he likes a pic or not? You need more detachment. Try to focus on something else you love. IP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted May 10, 2014 07:38 PM
Great advice Odette!IP: Logged |
pinkgh0st
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posted May 10, 2014 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by Odette:
I disagree. She will not "continue feeling as she does" if she leaves everything... nor will she feel better by talking to him.
What is there to lose? Well first of all she could talk to him, get no result out of it at all - other than a "shrug I have no idea what this is about" - and still feel exactly as she does... except he could become even more standoffish because mutable guys tend freak out when they realize someone has *expectations* from them.She is reacting in a very hurt and emotional way to feeling rejected. You just can't allow your personal happiness to be so dependant on someone else and the stupid, intentional or perhaps unintentional things they do. This whole thing could still be unintentional, but that's irrelevant. What's important, 3333 is that you don't continue to make this guy the centre of your world.
Who cares whether he likes a pic or not? You need more detachment. Try to focus on something else you love.
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3333
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posted May 11, 2014 03:15 AM
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Originally posted by SilverFeather:
Well from my own experience as a Sag with an Air moon sign and as a Sag who dated other Sags, I would say he might be giving off that cold vibe unintentionally. We're very friendly people even with those we don't really like so I don't think he's being mean to you on purpose.I believe it's his Scorpio Venus and Virgo Mars at work. those two placements are pretty hard to understand and can get quite confusing in how they express themselves. I also have Mercury in Sag but unlike your guy here, I have Venus and Mars in Sag as well so my self-expression flows more easily than his. I think you should ask him face-to-face, if he's true to his sun sign,he will surely appreciate your straight-forwardness.
I hope so :/ i was thinking about it a lot and i still have a dilemma for this(as a scorpio i am considering all the possibilities of what i do or i will do)thats why i am not 100% sure if it will be the best solution :/ Ok my questions will be answered but i am afraid that this answers might hurt me and i dont want to be sad and being distracted by this especially now!btw yesterday i saw him in my dreams that he likes some posts on my fb and photos and he wrote comments like 'you are beautiful' or ' perfect' combindes with kisses and hears :/IP: Logged |
3333
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posted May 11, 2014 03:22 AM
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Originally posted by Odette:
I disagree. She will not "continue feeling as she does" if she leaves everything... nor will she feel better by talking to him.
What is there to lose? Well first of all she could talk to him, get no result out of it at all - other than a "shrug I have no idea what this is about" - and still feel exactly as she does... except he could become even more standoffish because mutable guys tend freak out when they realize someone has *expectations* from them.She is reacting in a very hurt and emotional way to feeling rejected. You just can't allow your personal happiness to be so dependant on someone else and the stupid, intentional or perhaps unintentional things they do. This whole thing could still be unintentional, but that's irrelevant. What's important, 3333 is that you don't continue to make this guy the centre of your world.
Who cares whether he likes a pic or not? You need more detachment. Try to focus on something else you love.
You are right  i will do my best!Thanks for the useful advise dear Odette but i still find it unfair to be the only one that he is cold with :/ i am in a dilemma he may be immature but i think he will understand ahh i dont what to do i want so much to ignore him but at the same time i want him to know!!!Well its a complicated situation but know i should focus on something more important and when i find time i will make my decisions IP: Logged |
3333
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posted May 11, 2014 03:31 AM
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Originally posted by amelia28:
Oh it could be purely immaturity.....or maybe he thinks you dont like him so he behaves like a douche.or he is just a douche bc he is 18 LOL
Hahahahhaha maybe when he was younger he was a very mature child and very kind,he was different frim the crowd,he doesnt care what the other people say,he was against all this immaturity things that teenagers do (thats why i loved him because he was beautiful from inside and out  )...but now he changed a lot...he smokes,he gets angry very easily and in general he became the same **** as the majority of the teenagers now -_- IP: Logged |
3333
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posted May 14, 2014 11:22 AM
Today i saw him at school I was so afraid to face him that i turn my back and i didnt even so him!!!I am so afraid that i've never find the courage to talk him to him about my problem How i will find the courage to do that :/ how are Sagittarius react to these type of situations?IP: Logged |
KingofCups
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posted May 14, 2014 01:41 PM
I'm surprised that no one else has suggested this yet, but I think that he likes you. I read through a thread about a guy who acted similarly and a girl feeling sad about it, and in a couple months, the two were going out with each other. Being a 17 year old guy myself, the way he's acting kind of makes sense. He knows he likes you. But he doesn't want you or anyone else to know that he likes you, not until he's ready anyways. So he leaves no clues and makes no hints, at least not in public. As somebody else mentioned, he's not really sure what he wants, and until he resolves this conflict within himself, he doesn't want anyone else to know that he likes you. So the reason he doesn't like your pics on FB is because he doesn't want people to see that he likes your pics and somehow magically catch on to him liking you as impossible as that sounds. He also is cold to you in public because he doesn't want anyone to know that he has any feelings at all towards you. That's why he isn't cold to you when you're alone; he sees being alone with you as a time when he can decide whether or not he wants to be with you, because again, he's confused about it. He likes being around you. He likes talking to you. But he's so confused about whether he wants to be with you and so caught up in making sure that no one else figures out that he likes you that he unknowingly ended up hurting you.That's my theory anyways. I could be totally wrong. IP: Logged |
3333
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posted May 14, 2014 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by KingofCups:
I'm surprised that no one else has suggested this yet, but I think that he likes you. I read through a thread about a guy who acted similarly and a girl feeling sad about it, and in a couple months, the two were going out with each other. Being a 17 year old guy myself, the way he's acting kind of makes sense. He knows he likes you. But he doesn't want you or anyone else to know that he likes you, not until he's ready anyways. So he leaves no clues and makes no hints, at least not in public. As somebody else mentioned, he's not really sure what he wants, and until he resolves this conflict within himself, he doesn't want anyone else to know that he likes you. So the reason he doesn't like your pics on FB is because he doesn't want people to see that he likes your pics and somehow magically catch on to him liking you as impossible as that sounds. He also is cold to you in public because he doesn't want anyone to know that he has any feelings at all towards you. That's why he isn't cold to you when you're alone; he sees being alone with you as a time when he can decide whether or not he wants to be with you, because again, he's confused about it. He likes being around you. He likes talking to you. But he's so confused about whether he wants to be with you and so caught up in making sure that no one else figures out that he likes you that he unknowingly ended up hurting you.That's my theory anyways. I could be totally wrong.
Thats a pretty good theory because sometimes when we are alone i really want to start a conversation and show him who i really am but i am really shy and i dont dare to talk to him first :/ although he will 90% starts the conversation and he tries to make me more comfortable with him(but that happens a few times only )..as i told before the most of his actions show me that he is cold with me and i dont have an idea why he do that...if there was a chance then we could be a really good friends(at.least)as we have similar interests but i think this will may not happen IP: Logged |
SilverFeather
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posted May 14, 2014 03:57 PM
I have to agree with Kingofcups on what he said.
I crushed hard on a Libra guy, a classmate.I was the same age as you back then and I never showed any of the typical "love-struck" signs people usually do when they like someone.Truth to be told, I avoided him at all cost and people thought I was giving him the cold shoulder until one day he came up to me and guess what he said :
"did I ever do something to offend you ?" turned out he thought I hated him lol, something which couldn't be any further from the truth. I guess it's something all Sags go through. we kinda get so clumsy and flustered that we no longer know how to deal with all those feelings our love interests provoke, we're simply not used to all that so we act the exact opposite of what we feel, unconsciously though. IP: Logged |
3333
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posted May 15, 2014 01:12 AM
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Originally posted by SilverFeather:
I have to agree with Kingofcups on what he said.
I crushed hard on a Libra guy, a classmate.I was the same age as you back then and I never showed any of the typical "love-struck" signs people usually do when they like someone.Truth to be told, I avoided him at all cost and people thought I was giving him the cold shoulder until one day he came up to me and guess what he said :
"did I ever do something to offend you ?" turned out he thought I hated him lol, something which couldn't be any further from the truth. I guess it's something all Sags go through. we kinda get so clumsy and flustered that we no longer know how to deal with all those feelings our love interests provoke, we're simply not used to all that so we act the exact opposite of what we feel, unconsciously though.
Interesting well the only way to find out then is to ask him straight of whats going on but there is another problem...i am afraid of his answer...to tell me something i am afraid to hear and hurt me again for another time :/ btw that was a very interesting story(similar with mine)and the information you gave me about sags are so helpful thank you so much my friend IP: Logged |
SilverFeather
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posted May 15, 2014 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by 3333:
Interesting well the only way to find out then is to ask him straight of whats going on but there is another problem...i am afraid of his answer...to tell me something i am afraid to hear and hurt me again for another time :/ btw that was a very interesting story(similar with mine)and the information you gave me about sags are so helpful thank you so much my friend
You're more than welcome hon don't worry about what may or may not happen, just follow your heart. IP: Logged |
3333
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posted May 15, 2014 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by SilverFeather:
You're more than welcome hon don't worry about what may or may not happen, just follow your heart.
You are right my dear But first i have to make sure that i will be ready to do such a huge step :/ its the first time that i will do such a thing(i wanted to talk to him months ago but i didnt do it cause i was not 100% sure,but now i think its about time because of his cold actions )and i want everything to be under control!!!Btw thanks(again) for everything my friend  xxxIP: Logged |
3333
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posted May 15, 2014 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by 3333:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SilverFeather:
[b] You're more than welcome hon don't worry about what may or may not happen, just follow your heart.
You are right my dear But first i have to make sure that i will be ready to do such a huge step :/ its the first time that i will do such a thing(i wanted to talk to him months ago but i didnt do it cause i was not 100% sure,but now i think its about time because of his cold actions )and i want everything to be under control!!!Btw thanks(again) for everything my friend xxx[/B][/QUOTE]
Sorry posted it two times by accident :P
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dawnt
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posted May 15, 2014 03:55 PM
Hi I figured I would chime in being I am a Sagittarius girl. I read most of the replies but not all. But I'll just give you my opinion and hope it helps. First I would like to say never ever do I enjoy playing games or hurting someone. As a matter of fact if I was made aware that I did something to hurt someone and I wasn't aware of it I would probably be very confused because it wasn't intentional. Secondly you really need to keep in mind that whatever happens on FB things can get taken for way more than it's worth. It doesn't sound direct hurt to me. That's 1 reason I don't have a FB account. I call it fake book.
If it's something happening outside of FB and he wasn't very direct towards YOU personally about what hurt you, then I would write it off. I'm pretty positive whatever he is doing isn't on purpose.
One thing I can say about myself and I'm not sure what planet is responsible but if I know a guy likes me but I have no interest in him I do intentionally keep my distance. It freaks me out if I know my feelings aren't mutual. I'm afraid to even be friends or it might send the wrong message. I figure if I keep my distance they won't be interested anymore. I actually even feel really uncomfortable around them if just hanging around a group of friends.
I know that he wouldn't even talked to you at all if he didn't at least like you as a person. And a lot of guys get stand offish when around more people, no? Especially the young ones. I hope I have helped you IP: Logged |
3333
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posted May 15, 2014 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by dawnt:
Hi I figured I would chime in being I am a Sagittarius girl. I read most of the replies but not all. But I'll just give you my opinion and hope it helps. First I would like to say never ever do I enjoy playing games or hurting someone. As a matter of fact if I was made aware that I did something to hurt someone and I wasn't aware of it I would probably be very confused because it wasn't intentional. Secondly you really need to keep in mind that whatever happens on FB things can get taken for way more than it's worth. It doesn't sound direct hurt to me. That's 1 reason I don't have a FB account. I call it fake book.
If it's something happening outside of FB and he wasn't very direct towards YOU personally about what hurt you, then I would write it off. I'm pretty positive whatever he is doing isn't on purpose.
One thing I can say about myself and I'm not sure what planet is responsible but if I know a guy likes me but I have no interest in him I do intentionally keep my distance. It freaks me out if I know my feelings aren't mutual. I'm afraid to even be friends or it might send the wrong message. I figure if I keep my distance they won't be interested anymore. I actually even feel really uncomfortable around them if just hanging around a group of friends.
I know that he wouldn't even talked to you at all if he didn't at least like you as a person. And a lot of guys get stand offish when around more people, no? Especially the young ones. I hope I have helped you
Well actually i've never showed him any signs that i like him...i am really shy to do that!!!But the sure thing is i am really friendly with him but with meter i've never do something to make him feel unconfortable like other girls -_- for example my friend,some girls are touching him or get him to dance for fun,they play with him,one of them give him her sunglasses or wear to him her ribbon(that girl is in a relationship with someone else)and all that girls are my classmates and i think he likes that!!But with me he is just cold in person(when we are not alone,but when we are he is the first one that he will start a convesation with me)!(as for fb i will use it as one of my proves of his cold behaviour when i decide to talk to him because he is one of the persons that doesnt put a like easily)But seriously i ve never do something to show him that i love him :/ But believe me i need to talk to him about his behaviour but i dont know how he will act(thats what i am afraid most) :/IP: Logged |
dawnt
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posted May 15, 2014 04:17 PM
I agree also with what Kingofcups mentioned to an extent. I would also keep my distance ( what may appear cold )to a guy that I was unsure of if the feeling was mutual. I figure why bother putting energy into something that isn't mutual? IP: Logged |
3333
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posted May 15, 2014 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by dawnt:
I agree also with what Kingofcups mentioned to an extent. I would also keep my distance ( what may appear cold )to a guy that I was unsure of if the feeling was mutual. I figure why bother putting energy into something that isn't mutual?
Well i am not sure about what happens !!!Thats why i want to know whats going on...when he was younger he was really but really friendly with me...now at the last 1 year he started that behaviour to me(and i dont do anything bad to him or make him unconfortable);/ btw are you a november or a december sagittarius ?IP: Logged |
dawnt
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posted May 15, 2014 05:52 PM
I did reply to your response not sur why it's not showing? And if kingofcops is right on this guy, I wouldn"t like him anymore if he is worried about what otjers think if he likes you...blaghIP: Logged |
dawnt
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posted May 15, 2014 06:28 PM
Well it still isn't showing my response, so ill try and sum it up what my response was.
Eye contact is important! Don't look away when you see him coming. Do you smile at him when you see him? No eye contact can be seen as no interest. Be his friend in a real way so you can understand each others dispostion better. If he only wants to hang occasionally he probably just wants to be friends. If he wants to be around you a lot, he likes you a lot! I'm a Dec. Sag.IP: Logged |
KingofCups
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posted May 15, 2014 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by 3333:
Well actually i've never showed him any signs that i like him...i am really shy to do that!!!But the sure thing is i am really friendly with him but with meter i've never do something to make him feel unconfortable like other girls -_- for example my friend,some girls are touching him or get him to dance for fun,they play with him,one of them give him her sunglasses or wear to him her ribbon(that girl is in a relationship with someone else)and all that girls are my classmates and i think he likes that!!But with me he is just cold in person(when we are not alone,but when we are he is the first one that he will start a convesation with me)!(as for fb i will use it as one of my proves of his cold behaviour when i decide to talk to him because he is one of the persons that doesnt put a like easily)But seriously i ve never do something to show him that i love him :/ But believe me i need to talk to him about his behaviour but i dont know how he will act(thats what i am afraid most) :/
This makes me think even more that he likes you. Sagittarians are flirtatious by nature, so it's natural for him to allow girls to do whatever to him and enjoy it. However, he's not really serious about any of it. When it comes to liking you though, he is serious about it. But he's not sure how to handle it because he's uncertain about his own desires and afraid of rejection. Tbh, I think this is a good sign though, because you'd think mutable signs would find it easy to jump from one partner to the next, but it seems like he takes a lot of time to contemplate whether or not he even likes someone, so it keeps chances of him cheating on you minimal. However, he will probably hate it if you try to stop him from doing all of the terrible stuff it seems like he's doing, and that could result in a bad reaction and quite possibly a break up. I get a really immature vibe from him. As cool as it might seem like he is, on the inside, he's confused and lost. IP: Logged |
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