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Topic: Hurt by a Saggitarius :(
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3333 Knowflake Posts: 200 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted May 10, 2014 05:11 AM
Hello everyone!!!I really need your help!!My saggitarius classmate is really friendly with alll our classmates expept me he puts like in almost every photo they tagged him on fb expept mine and anw he is really cold with me and that really hurts me and i've never done something bad to him why is he acting like that?what can i do to learn whats happening?Should i talk to him?every opinion will be useful!!!Btw i am a scorpio.
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 383 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted May 10, 2014 05:23 AM
He's a douche and is giving other Sagittarius people a bad name. Shame on him. Shame!!!!But seriously, you know that it is more than Sun sign position involved right? And besides, you haven't given any details with regards to any personal one-on-one interaction with this guy. Could all this be imagined ? Maybe because you like him so much, you could be very sensitive to how he responds to you? Just go up and talk to him. IP: Logged |
3333 Knowflake Posts: 200 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted May 10, 2014 05:31 AM
Well actually i liked him for a long time but i never told him anything or showed him any signs...because if i do such a thing it will turned against me (i think) :/ well i really want to talk to him about his behaviour and how much it hurts me but i am afraid a little bit Btw i make his astrological map a lot time ago he has gemini moon,saggitarius mercury,scorpio venus and virgo mars unfortunately i dont know his ascendant sign :/IP: Logged |
3333 Knowflake Posts: 200 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted May 10, 2014 05:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by 3333: Well actually i liked him for a long time but i never told him anything or showed him any signs...because if i do such a thing it will turned against me (i think) :/well i really want to talk to him about his behaviour and how much it hurts me but i am afraid a little bit Btw i make his astrological map a lot time ago he has gemini moon,saggitarius mercury,scorpio venus and virgo mars unfortunately i dont know his ascendant sign :/
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Odette Moderator Posts: 4306 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted May 10, 2014 05:43 AM
Is he born in '88?IP: Logged |
3333 Knowflake Posts: 200 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted May 10, 2014 05:52 AM
He was born on 1996 he will be 18 on november as I!IP: Logged |
Odette Moderator Posts: 4306 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted May 10, 2014 06:02 AM
hmmm I've met a couple of very "particular" Sagittarians, who are also Dragons in Chinese (born in '88) and who are really... well .. stuffed up. One of these guys constantly used FB to try to hurt me and get back at me for "rejecting" him - when I didn't even reject him... ya... weird. The '88 borns seem like egomaniacs. Anyway, I'm glad he isn't born in '88. Would you like to post his chart? Does he have anything retrograde? Venus or Mars? Generally Sags are straightforward. You are both very young and this whole thing could be a misunderstanding. He could just be shy.. I'd like to see your synastry though IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 383 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted May 10, 2014 06:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by 3333: Well actually i liked him for a long time but i never told him anything or showed him any signs...because if i do such a thing it will turned against me (i think) :/ well i really want to talk to him about his behaviour and how much it hurts me but i am afraid a little bit Btw i make his astrological map a lot time ago he has gemini moon,saggitarius mercury,scorpio venus and virgo mars unfortunately i dont know his ascendant sign :/
Usualy, when we converse with our crushes, the feelings we had become that much more clearer. We either like them that much more and are convinced that they really are good for us OR we simply become disappointed and wonder what all the fuss was about? I have an idea. Next time you see him, say this; "Hi. Mind if I sit next to you?...Thank you.Listen, I don't think that we actually know each other that well. My name is XX and I see that we have XX classes in common. Why haven't we spoken to each other ever?" You mentioned that he has Gemini Moon/Mercury Sag and they LOVE a person that can converse. It could be his Virgo Mars that is chilly. And if he has a T-square between these planets, like I do, he'll warm up to you and love your openness. If there is anything that many Sagittarius people appreciate, it's candor. I could be speaking from the point of view of my Aries Asc, but I also respond well to people that open a conversation with me. Yeah baby!!!! IP: Logged |
3333 Knowflake Posts: 200 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted May 10, 2014 06:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: hmmm I've met a couple of very "particular" Sagittarians, who are also Dragons in Chinese (born in '88) and who are really... well .. stuffed up. One of these guys constantly used FB to try to hurt me and get back at me for "rejecting" him - when I didn't even reject him... ya... weird. The '88 borns seem like egomaniacs. Anyway, I'm glad he isn't born in '88. Would you like to post his chart? Does he have anything retrograde? Venus or Mars? Generally Sags are straightforward. You are both very young and this whole thing could be a misunderstanding. He could just be shy.. I'd like to see your synastry though
Thats so sad He is such an idiot -_- well i dont know how to post a chart on lindaland but i can tell you his placements and my placements as well His:Sun in Sagittarius(he is a november one),Moon in Gemini,Mars on Virgo,Venus in Scorpio,Mercury in Saggitaruis Mine:Sun in Scorpio(Born on november as well),Moon in Leo,Mars in Virgo,Venus in Libra,Mercury in Scorpio I hope that helps xxxx
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3333 Knowflake Posts: 200 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted May 10, 2014 06:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Usualy, when we converse with our crushes, the feelings we had become that much more clearer. We either like them that much more and are convinced that they really are good for us OR we simply become disappointed and wonder what all the fuss was about? I have an idea. Next time you see him, say this; [b]"Hi. Mind if I sit next to you?...Thank you.Listen, I don't think that we actually know each other that well. My name is XX and I see that we have XX classes in common. Why haven't we spoken to each other ever?" You mentioned that he has Gemini Moon/Mercury Sag and they LOVE a person that can converse. It could be his Virgo Mars that is chilly. And if he has a T-square between these planets, like I do, he'll warm up to you and love your openness. If there is anything that many Sagittarius people appreciate, it's candor. I could be speaking from the point of view of my Aries Asc, but I also respond well to people that open a conversation with me. Yeah baby!!!! [/B]
Thats really helpful but there's another detail that i didnt mention before:when we were younger his behaviour was really good to me and he was very friendly,on that year and a little bit earlier he become cold to me :/ Oh and something else when we are alone (the two of us)he is being very normal and he talks to me like nothing happens but when we are not he is cold i know it sounds complicated :/ i dont know what to do and what to think either :/ IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 383 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted May 10, 2014 07:02 AM
Oh, so you two actually do have a prior relationships. Then this makes it a whole lot easier.You can just ask him why he is so dd with you. Why he act all okay when you two are together but very distant when you two are apart? There's no need to worry yourself over this; trying to "guess the answer. Just ask the source of all of this trouble. IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 1874 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted May 10, 2014 07:21 AM
Yea, I've had some nasty run ins with Venus in Scorpio, especially with Libra/Sagittarius/Capricorn, basically those without the Sun conjunction.I believe his Mars-Sun, & Mars-Moon square is to blame for this douchy behavior. IP: Logged |
3333 Knowflake Posts: 200 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted May 10, 2014 07:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Oh, so you two actually do have a prior relationships. Then this makes it a whole lot easier.You can just ask him why he is so dd with you. Why he act all okay when you two are together but very distant when you two are apart? There's no need to worry yourself over this; trying to "guess the answer. Just ask the source of all of this trouble.
Yes you are right my friend I will try to talk to him The only problem now is when i will do it and how(face to face or on message)But i will figure out soon Now i should find the courage to do that!!!
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3333 Knowflake Posts: 200 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted May 10, 2014 07:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Oh, so you two actually do have a prior relationships. Then this makes it a whole lot easier.You can just ask him why he is so dd with you. Why he act all okay when you two are together but very distant when you two are apart? There's no need to worry yourself over this; trying to "guess the answer. Just ask the source of all of this trouble.
Yes you are right my friend I will try to talk to him The only problem now is when i will do it and how(face to face or on message)But i will figure out soon Now i should find the courage to do that!!! Oops it was posted again 2 times sorry!!!IP: Logged |
3333 Knowflake Posts: 200 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted May 10, 2014 07:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by Nine: Yea, I've had some nasty run ins with Venus in Scorpio, especially with Libra/Sagittarius/Capricorn, basically those without the Sun conjunction.I believe his Mars-Sun, & Mars-Moon square is to blame for this douchy behavior.
Maybe my friend.. :/IP: Logged |
Odette Moderator Posts: 4306 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted May 10, 2014 09:33 AM
Strongly mutable people can be difficult to understand for strongly fixed people. He has Sun/Moon/Mercury in mutable signs. Yours are all fixed.Sagittarius isn't easy to explain, let alone a Sagittarius with Gemini Moon - but I'll try, based on my own experience. I was actually friends with a guy who has the same personal planets as he does, other than Mars, born: 29/11/1985. First of all.. both Sagittarius and Gemini are dual signs - one is half man/half horse; the other is represented by the twins. They are also opposite signs. Having a Sun/Moon opposition in itself, can make a person pretty indecisive and dualistic. This would be the case even if the Sun/Moon were in fixed or cardinal signs .. but it's even more emphasised in mutable signs. So this guy.. in a nutshell ..isn't very clear on who he is and what he wants - out of life, out of love, out of his career etc. Unless he has a badly placed Jupiter, he is probably laid back, he goes with the flow. He likes to walk out the door every morning and say to the Universe: "Surprise me!" You, on the other hand are very confident, very clear on who you are and what you want... and you would much prefer to pre-plan rather than be surprised. You are really very different people. The most important thing you should know about him is that he is probably about 10 times more emotionally lighthearted and carefree than you are. He does not take himself or anyone else seriously. Communication between you might not be very clear because having a mutable Mercury - he doesn't always say what he means and he doesn't always mean what he says. You have a Scorpio Mercury so you are very accurate and precise. You probably don't like meaningless chatter, half-truths and BS. I think this guy probably likes you. I would see no reason why he wouldn't. Obviously he likes talking to you one on one. He also has a Scorpio Venus (and you are a Scorpio) so it's likely he would find you physically attractive. But he will never be as intense as you are or as emotionally expressive as you can be. So even if he likes you, it's still in his nature to act more so "friendly" rather than " romantic". Looking at your placements I'm not sure if he is really your type. About his behaviour: acting standoff-ish on FB and in other social situations etc. -- IMO it could be one of two things - either he really has no clue he is doing this and it's all a chain of misfortunate coincidences (which is possible!) or, he is playing a game and wants more attention from you. Either way this is not very serious to him. Making an issue out of his behaviour by asking him about it and seeking an explanation or apology for his behaviour - will probably end badly. He would get the impression that you take things to heart quickly and have a thin skin - and possibly that you are obsessed with him. While there are many men out there who might be flattered by your interest - A guy who is so mutable will probably run for the hills as fast as he possibly can. This is just my opinion. If I was in your shoes I would completely ignore what he is doing and not doing - and live my life, minding my own business. If he wants to get closer, to be friends or date you - he will pursue you in his own way. Don't be a snob towards him, but don't make an effort to engage either - or to tell him off for ignoring you at times. Basically act the way you've acted so far. The problem is that you are hurt by him not paying enough attention - and you really shouldn't be. You have to completely detach from that and not feel so emotionally attached to getting attention from him. He is just not the kind of guy who can make you feel like you're the only girl in the world. He is who he is and he's mutable. Please don't worry so much about him. I am absolutely sure you'll catch several other fish in the sea - who can give you the kind of intensity and attention you want. IP: Logged |
3333 Knowflake Posts: 200 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted May 10, 2014 10:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: Strongly mutable people can be difficult to understand for strongly fixed people. He has Sun/Moon/Mercury in mutable signs. Yours are all fixed.Sagittarius isn't easy to explain, let alone a Sagittarius with Gemini Moon - but I'll try, based on my own experience. I was actually friends with a guy who has the same personal planets as he does, other than Mars, born: 29/11/1985. First of all.. both Sagittarius and Gemini are dual signs - one is half man/half horse; the other is represented by the twins. They are also opposite signs. Having a Sun/Moon opposition in itself, can make a person pretty indecisive and dualistic. This would be the case even if the Sun/Moon were in fixed or cardinal signs .. but it's even more emphasised in mutable signs. So this guy.. in a nutshell ..isn't very clear on who he is and what he wants - out of life, out of love, out of his career etc. Unless he has a badly placed Jupiter, he is probably laid back, he goes with the flow. He likes to walk out the door every morning and say to the Universe: "Surprise me!" You, on the other hand are very confident, very clear on who you are and what you want... and you would much prefer to pre-plan rather than be surprised. You are really very different people. The most important thing you should know about him is that he is probably about 10 times more emotionally lighthearted and carefree than you are. He does not take himself or anyone else seriously. Communication between you might not be very clear because having a mutable Mercury - he doesn't always say what he means and he doesn't always mean what he says. You have a Scorpio Mercury so you are very accurate and precise. You probably don't like meaningless chatter, half-truths and BS. I think this guy probably likes you. I would see no reason why he wouldn't. Obviously he likes talking to you one on one. He also has a Scorpio Venus (and you are a Scorpio) so it's likely he would find you physically attractive. But he will never be as intense as you are or as emotionally expressive as you can be. So even if he likes you, it's still in his nature to act more so "friendly" rather than " romantic". Looking at your placements I'm not sure if he is really your type. About his behaviour: acting standoff-ish on FB and in other social situations etc. -- IMO it could be one of two things - either he really has no clue he is doing this and it's all a chain of misfortunate coincidences (which is possible!) or, he is playing a game and wants more attention from you. Either way this is not very serious to him. Making an issue out of his behaviour by asking him about it and seeking an explanation or apology for his behaviour - will probably end badly. He would get the impression that you take things to heart quickly and have a thin skin - and possibly that you are obsessed with him. While there are many men out there who might be flattered by your interest - A guy who is so mutable will probably run for the hills as fast as he possibly can. This is just my opinion. If I was in your shoes I would completely ignore what he is doing and not doing - and live my life, minding my own business. If he wants to get closer, to be friends or date you - he will pursue you in his own way. Don't be a snob towards him, but don't make an effort to engage either - or to tell him off for ignoring you at times. Basically act the way you've acted so far. The problem is that you are hurt by him not paying enough attention - and you really shouldn't be. You have to completely detach from that and not feel so emotionally attached to getting attention from him. He is just not the kind of guy who can make you feel like you're the only girl in the world. He is who he is and he's mutable. Please don't worry so much about him. I am absolutely sure you'll catch several other fish in the sea - who can give you the kind of intensity and attention you want.
You are so right my friend!!!Everything you said are true about him!!!Well i really agree with you that i have to ignore him and not play his game but sometimes i believe this game is repeated a lot of times and personally i need an explanation,a reason why he do that :/ because i fed up of this situtation repeat it again and again!I dont know what to do anymore n the one hand i want to ignore him and pretend that he is not exist as you said before but on the other hand i need an explanation why he do that to me ONLY :/?Its too complicated btw thanks for your so good advices and useful information i really appreciate it my friend xxx
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posted May 10, 2014 11:20 AM
they are dicks thou lmfao.if you are sensitive you will probably easily be hurt by them. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 3589 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted May 10, 2014 11:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: they are dicks thou lmfao.if you are sensitive you will probably easily be hurt by them.
Ummm, no we aren't! There is no need or a reason to say things like that here, it's rude and has point, it has nothing to do with 3333's question! If you want to trash a particular sign do with your friends and in person this is not the place! IP: Logged |
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posted May 10, 2014 11:38 AM
you told me!IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 3589 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted May 10, 2014 11:38 AM
Do you think this guy maybe has feelings for you but somehow has felt rejected? Scorpios can come across very distant at times without knowing it and don't intend to be that way....if his Venus conjuncts your Sun, he would tend to feel you more deeply and maybe he felt you were the one who became distant with him...so his response was to freeze you out but really he's hurt? Potentially? I'm not sure but it's worth investigating and I agree with everyone else, you need to talk to him and open up so you can work it out! Best thing about saggys is we easily forgive n forget!IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 3589 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted May 10, 2014 11:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: you told me!
Luv u!
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3333 Knowflake Posts: 200 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted May 10, 2014 12:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: they are dicks thou lmfao.if you are sensitive you will probably easily be hurt by them.
I dont think all saggitarius are bad because that one is an idiot but i am little bit sesnitive :/ thats true my friend :/IP: Logged |
3333 Knowflake Posts: 200 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted May 10, 2014 12:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Do you think this guy maybe has feelings for you but somehow has felt rejected? Scorpios can come across very distant at times without knowing it and don't intend to be that way....if his Venus conjuncts your Sun, he would tend to feel you more deeply and maybe he felt you were the one who became distant with him...so his response was to freeze you out but really he's hurt? Potentially? I'm not sure but it's worth investigating and I agree with everyone else, you need to talk to him and open up so you can work it out! Best thing about saggys is we easily forgive n forget!
I dont have an idea dear Gabby :/ i ve never figure out his true feelings about me!!!Well thats partly true when i feel rejected from someone we would be far from him ar start when my feelings are intense but when i calm a little bit and figure out that it might be my idea then i will act like nothing happens!!!But this time my patience reach its limits!!!Well i ve been nice to him a lot of times and offer him a help when he need it but i think he doesn't appreciate it!!!Being cold with me at school and at the same time doesnt like my photos or photos that he is tagged on fb it annoys me a little bit!!!I believe its unfair to be nice with everyone expept me well the truth is i am in a dilemma to talk to him or not!From the one hand i want him to know how his behaviour hurts me but on the other hand i am afraid that i will make the things worse and i dont know if it deserves at the end :/IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 3589 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted May 10, 2014 12:29 PM
I thinks it best to get everything out in the open, you have 2 choices... 1) leave everything as is, and continue feeling like you do -or- 2) take the chance by talking to him and maybe it gets better, maybe not but right not your miserable not knowing so how will it be any different unless you try to talk. If it doesn't work, you'll be in the same place you already are, if it does work, you'll be happy! So what is there to lose?IP: Logged |