posted June 15, 2014 03:49 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I know someone with Moon conjunct Neptune who loves Benadryl and Nyquil, both, even got Benadryl injections at minor emergency clinic and could barely walk afterward.

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posted June 15, 2014 04:55 AM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:

I've noticed a lot of Pisces and Virgo influenced people with some kind of delusional thhinking. Obsessive about something. It's not usually very bad but it's noticeable. It might be magical thinking.

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The magical thinking thing made me think of Gabriel Garcia Marques who basically invented the "magical thinking" literary style and won the nobel prize for literature.

Of course you won't be surprised to know he has sun, Merc, Jupiter and Uranus in Pisces!

posted June 15, 2014 05:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Krista_Kay_1993:
sometimes neptune is so happy and loving and other times i feel like hell

(neptune in 1st house conjunct ascendent)

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Neptune in 1st, retrograde, conjunct ascendant, conjunct moon exact, conjunct uranus by one degree.
I don't know if I am boasting or complaining. Maybe both:p

posted June 15, 2014 05:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Krista_Kay_1993:
maybe you also have a water midheaven

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You're good!!!

posted June 15, 2014 06:13 AM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
I really really believe certain signs gravitate towards certain types of drugs lol. For example it seems like watery people prefer something sedative. Uranian people love hallucinogens. And in my life I know more alcoholic taureans than anyone!

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posted June 15, 2014 04:49 PM            

The bad side of Neptune is that it makes me very sensitive to certain medications. I am thankfully not prone to any kind of addiction, but I often react horribly to certain medications that have brought me to the brink of death.

posted June 15, 2014 07:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Astra:
I have Neptune (12th house) conjunct my capricorn ascendant. One positive thing about Neptune is that it gives you a great deal of compassion for others. I work in healthcare and my patients often tell me that I have a soothing presence and can tell that I genuinely care about them.

The bad side of Neptune is that it makes me very sensitive to certain medications. I am thankfully not prone to any kind of addiction, but I often react horribly to certain medications that have brought me to the brink of death.

One thing I noticed about Neptune that can be good or bad depending on how you look at it is that you can become whatever someone else wants you to be. This is great for actors, but not so good for people lacking a strong will who allow significant others or friends to tell them who they should become.

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Ooh I know so much of what you mean! I always did what my parents told me and they were alway right but my friends would come along and tell me I should do this or that based on hobbies. Truth be told I love what I do now. It's not drawing or playing music or acting but those were fads and trends. Now I'm helping people with real problems. The worst thing is listening to people your own age talk as if they've been alive for fifty years.

posted June 15, 2014 08:09 PM            

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Originally posted by geea:
@AlexDern, your theory*post is very interesting, can you leave us a link or something to read more?(im interested in the chiron thing) thanks

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This is not my theory. I have simply regurgitated back to you a brief summary of the thousands upon thousands of pages I have read and assimilated on the subject matters of spirituality, soul, psychology, astrology, mythology, personal development. They all agree on this general archtypal pattern.

Let's start with VENUS - what you like.

What do you like? For some people this changes every month. For others it's always the same. What do you like? Most people don't know what they like even when they say they do.

Mars -What do you do?

Saturn - How do you practice?

Jupiter - How much practice do you need before you're confident? Confidence breeds luck only when it's firmly rooted in practice. Practice right..that makes perfect...perfect practice makes perfect...but just practicing isn't good enough.

etc...

etc...

Honestly...Chiron is shaped like a key and the we want to ascend the spiral of ourselves...that is the center of the chart...we are not anything else but the center of the chart.

Basic astrology 101...you can only be the center. No one can be chiron, or else everyone wouldn't be in, or out of chiron.

If you catch my drift...catch a wift of my drift - haha get it!

Anyways...

How do you find and turn the key of chiron? Only you know...you can read millions of pages like me...at the end of the day reading is great and takes you far but not far enough...air is air but with fire, earth, and water...without initiation, adaptability, and sustainability, or cardinal, mutable, fixed...what would we be except for quacks.

So to make a long story short...if you want to find the good in neptune...then you should start with saturn, then chiron, then uranus - but only after mars, venus, sun, and moon...and mercury is the messenger. so you've been with him since you can remember - because your memory sends you messages...or bubbles from the bottom.

Anyways...either way you look at it the message is clear.

If you want to use the non-linear power, you have to learn the linear way as well.

If you want to balance the masculine with the feminine you have to be both.

No other way around it.

Saturn is not our enemey.

We are our own enemies.

As for insanity and neptune...that's yes and no...

as for the 12th house that's yes and no too....

I know plenty of sane people in prisons and hospitals too.

And I know plenty of insane people who are doctors lawyers and leaders.

I know people with schizophrenia who operate on the heart.

So mental disease, most of the time, is no excuse for violence, but certainly also not saying we shouldn't have compassion for those suffering and the few who do irrational and extreme things.

But thinking so is only hurting those who have it.

posted June 15, 2014 10:38 PM            

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Originally posted by starlitroad:
You're good!!!

I have pluto Mc ,retrograde& singleton in scorpio

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Twinzies lol minus the retro and singleton maybe

posted June 16, 2014 05:46 AM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
The magical thinking thing made me think of Gabriel Garcia Marques who basically invented the "magical thinking" literary style and won the nobel prize for literature.

Of course you won't be surprised to know he has sun, Merc, Jupiter and Uranus in Pisces!

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posted June 16, 2014 06:00 AM            

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Originally posted by WarriorPrincess7:
Neptune is seriously afflicted in my chart I hate it but enjoy it at the same time. Its square my sun moon and mercury and has other aspects. I feel like no one on earth understands me that's why I don't even bother posting that much on this forum because its so hard for me to put feelings and emotional currents into words. I feel like my whole life is one big illusion, something good is happening then slowly the rug is ripped under my feet. I was bullied in elementary and high school although college is better, I start uni in the fall. I rlly feel like I'm a victim a lot of times, I haven't done anything to anyone and I got bullying back.

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posted June 16, 2014 06:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Krista_Kay_1993:
Twinzies lol minus the retro and singleton maybe

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posted June 16, 2014 06:51 AM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:

It seems like when I just let myself believe something without trying. It happens. When I force it. It's gone. Damn elusive Neptune. Though Neptune can be a fulfiller of dreams. Even if you are just living in an illusion that you believe so deeply in your heart. If you believe it how is that not reality. Reality is simply perception. It is relative to the person having the experience.

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Absolutely! Our attitude and perception make up a great deal about what our life is about, what our reality is.

Some people walk around thinking the world is hard and dreary and ugly while others think it's a place of wonder and beauty. Neither is not real, yet both are real for the person experiencing it.

posted June 16, 2014 12:18 PM            

Neptune rules the astral realm. When we base our life on this realm we become disollutioned.

It is like dreaming of being on stage and then trying to make that dream real. The dream was expressed in symbols and we took the symbols literally. We became dissolutioned.

What does the layman do after this? He or she becomes depressed. This is where Neptune tricks the person again, or the person tricks themselves. They start smoking the ganja or drinking the babble juice. This where their dreams seem more attainable. They drink a little and put on a show and think they are doing what they did in their dream. Really, they are killing brain cells - sorry to be so harsh and realistic. Not all alcohol consumption results in dead-brain syndrome. There is such a thing as moderation. But most people today think a beer a day is moderation. This is simply asinine. The objective brain scans prove that if you drink every day you will suffer biological damage unless it is under half a cup of wine.

Anyways....

So the aspirient now see's neptune as an evil entity who is out to get him with trickery.

The truth however has always laid dormant inside the person.

At this point the person thinks saturn blows. They see saturn as the disciplinarian or task master.

They hate their fathers as their fathers were to them as children never realizing that hteir fathers are unique souls evolving too and that hte current state of the relationship is hijacked by a previou smemory. This is the oedipus complex...it should be called the assimilation of the superego. The aspirant must understand that what is happening is that he is refusing to inject a little discipline every day because he wants to remain lazy and in the dream world.

Which ironically ensures his dreams are never achieved.

If the aspirant instead would meet the superego day by day and just increase his habit nature by intensity and frequency in the most gentle and easiest of ways, and i mean good habits here, he would create a snowball effect. At this point he would be thanking the God, or Gods, or Goddess, or whom ever, the lucky stars, for the timeless rules of Saturn which always afford one redemption even after the worst of cases.

Here I am reminded of the person who can't start but when he does he never stops. This is called the power of the saturnine. A momentum of good habbit will carry one forward even in their weakest moments.

Hence the aspirant realizes that saturn and neptune are one in the same as a fractilized pair. There is the saturn of neptune, and the neptune of saturn. The genius mind links the two and by chiron, where it is in the chart, the aspirant ascends upward in a clockwise spiral.