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Topic: Has anyone given up on love?
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Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 9430 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted June 22, 2014 03:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by ariestaurus: My Progressed Venus square Saturn aspect just went out of orb. It was hard, but there is a light at the end of the tunnel! Hang in there.
Oh, thanks, sweetheart. I am positive things will only get better with time. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 15501 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 22, 2014 03:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: Lol, do I look like a Pisces?
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NeptunianSag Knowflake Posts: 1331 From: Your imagination Registered: Aug 2013
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posted June 22, 2014 03:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by ariestaurus: My Progressed Venus square Saturn aspect just went out of orb. It was hard, but there is a light at the end of the tunnel! Hang in there.
I have progressed venus square pluto, progressed venus in pisces trine progressed scorpio asc. Progressed pluto in 1st house. Come at me, psycopaths. I think ive already got a taste of it, people unloading all of their emotional slush and insecurities onto me, yep, being single improves my self worth, I dont need to rely on someone else to be happy. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 9430 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted June 22, 2014 04:01 PM
Let's talk in a few years... Right now you're young...Wait a few years and you'll start feeling that feeling or aloneness and separation. Not trying to be mean, just realistic. Unless you're an alien, of course. Aliens don't always have feelings. IP: Logged |
NeptunianSag Knowflake Posts: 1331 From: Your imagination Registered: Aug 2013
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posted June 22, 2014 04:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: Let's talk in a few years... Right now you're young...Wait a few years and you'll start feeling that feeling or aloneness and separation. Not trying to be mean, just realistic. Unless you're an alien, of course. Aliens don't always have feelings.
I am an alien, I don't really feel things. Moon in virgo in 11th inconjunct saturn in 4th, can you get anymore emotional? IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 9430 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted June 22, 2014 04:16 PM
Alright, you have the right to believe whatever you want to believe.Just make sure you're being honest with yourself. IP: Logged |
Gemini Blues Knowflake Posts: 757 From: The future... or the past. I get them confused... Registered: May 2014
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posted June 22, 2014 04:36 PM
Just wait til you turn 50 and find someone that makes you feel 20.....but why wait? That person is out there trying to figure out where you are. You don't want everyone, you want that one. The trick is figuring out how to find that person. Never give up. Never give in. IP: Logged |
iwatchthesunrise Newflake Posts: 11 From: NYC Registered: Jun 2014
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posted June 22, 2014 04:43 PM
I don't think you've given up on love. Everyone ultimately wants love. I do feel that you've just realized that the time for a relationship is not now and that it's a time for you to focus on yourself. Girl, I've been in that boat. I know that a loving and healthy relationship would be nice, but being single is fun! Especially in your early 20s IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 22, 2014 06:08 PM
Jesus loves me and that's enough. Actually, I can barely handle this amount of love.------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
babybull82 Knowflake Posts: 891 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted June 22, 2014 06:48 PM
My story is a bit different. I haven't given up on love, but my wants and my needs don't match up (venus opposite mars) So I've just decided that while it would be cool to have a relationship, I'm just to lazy to put in the work in keeping it afloat. Plus I have finally accepted that I have never fallen in love with any of the men I claimed to be in love with. It was pluto, plain and simple. So I'm left wondering if I'm even capable of romantic love with a man. I find it's easier for me to love men as friends than lovers. Also I think all of this is by design, because in the next few months I'm about to be hit with some heavy Saturn transits. One mainly being Saturn sq Asc, so I'm thinking this will be my time to start really buckling down and working on my self seriously and focus on what I want to do and achieve my goals. Like a lightening bolt just last night I decided I wanted to go back to school for computer networking. It's crazy because the answer was in front of me all along what I should have been doing, but I was running away from it because I hate being challenged. I'm hoping these Saturn transits will help me overcome the fear I have..Anyway sorry for the tangent. Basically just use this as a good time to look deep within yourself and see what will make YOU happy. Being single is a great time to pick up a new hobby you've been interested in or getting to all of those books you've been wanting to read. It's like you said you don't have to worry about fulfilling someone else's selfish desires while having to ignore your own. I wish you good luck with your journey! IP: Logged |
NeptunianSag Knowflake Posts: 1331 From: Your imagination Registered: Aug 2013
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posted June 22, 2014 06:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gemini Blues: Just wait til you turn 50 and find someone that makes you feel 20.....but why wait? That person is out there trying to figure out where you are. You don't want everyone, you want that one. The trick is figuring out how to find that person. Never give up. Never give in.
Yeah, its not like i have difficulty in finding someone to partner with (Venus trine jupiter) i have the sea at my feet and i can catch a "fish" whenever i like, its just that i dont want to settle for less in life. I could just settle down and do the same crap over and over again with someone, but im an aqua venus with alot of uranus in my chart. Not sure if i beleive in "the one" but i beleive soulmates do exist. I want something different. Also my vertex is in the 8th house. Vertex in the 8th house: In many cases the sentimental life of these people seems rather temultuous and torturous without any routine or domestic warmth. These people have a rather idiosynchratic approach to these joys because their ideal relationship is definitely unusual and non alligned with what is traditionally considered necessary and satisfying for a couple. These people are attracted by “different” partners something unusual, intriguing that would allow a relationship full of surprises and drama. It is the transit of Chiron to act as a stimulator. To bring into the lives of these people the partner able to satisfy their intelligence and curiosity.
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Gemini Blues Knowflake Posts: 757 From: The future... or the past. I get them confused... Registered: May 2014
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posted June 22, 2014 07:45 PM
Vertex conjunct Merc in 8th as well as 8th house sun. Believe me, I know...IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 2880 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted June 23, 2014 12:13 AM
quote: Has anyone given up on love?
Nope I'd pay money if someone cure me of that illness. I am alwaYs in love, dang it
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PixieJane Moderator Posts: 6907 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted June 23, 2014 12:58 AM
My BFF has, at least for the foreseeable future, and I think it's the best decision she's ever made as she attracted a lot of toxic people, or at least those are the ones she'd fall for. She seems happy pursuing her Taoist spirituality now and says her life is refreshingly free of drama. I thought she'd jump back in but it's been 2 years now so I think she's serious.She has a 10H Pisces mercury, moon & mars as well as Aquarius sun and venus. Luckily, I think her Cappie eros helps her to channel her sexual energy into other avenues. IP: Logged |
Swift Freeze Moderator Posts: 707 From: One World Registered: Nov 2009
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posted June 23, 2014 03:38 AM
Don't let other people tell you that you should be in a relationship. There are a lot of scenarios and examples, where people demonise and make being single into a negative thing.Have you ever been rejected from a Dinner party? Or a trip out somewhere with two other couples. What about going to the Cinema with your two best friends and their partners? Society has impressed upon people the idea that being single is bad. The vast majority of adverts depict either a family or couple. It is perfectly okay to be single, and it is perfectly okay to not find love. Those people who say, "don't worry it will happen!" Are wrong, for some people it never happens. Sometimes, people will go through life and never find someone to settle down with. That doesn't mean they won't have relationships here and there, or a rich and fulfilling life, but there is so much more than finding a life partner. Most of my friends who are with long term partners, I'll be generous and say 2 years, although really I think anything over a year is heading towards long term, don't do too much with their free time. Maybe that's their interests and character, but people who are coupled up, in my opinion tend to spend less time doing things for themselves. The vast majority are unable to make decisions by themselves, which I can understand, your decisions affect two people now, so it is at least polite to check. What I really don't understand though, is the phone calls. You must call your significant other at least once per day? Even though you've only gone away for a 3 day weekend? I mean what is going to happen in those 3 days that you won't be able catch up on when you get back? Maybe it's based on insecurity; "Why are you calling them?" "Cause otherwise they'll be upset." "Why will they be upset?" "Because I didn't call." "Why would not calling upset them?" "..." (The look) Of course it's equally probable that people would consider me a cold hearted emotionless vacuum for not understanding. When it comes down to it, to me, there seems to be an inherent divide between mariagedom and singledom. Where each group has some sort of distrust and fear of each other. Despite the fact that at some point all married people were single people, and that at least half of all single people will currently get married. I think the marriage rate is around 49%-52% or so. Country dependent of course. ------------------ Learn lots. Don't judge. Laugh for no reason. Be nice. Seek Happiness. Follow your dreams. IP: Logged |
NeptunianSag Knowflake Posts: 1331 From: Your imagination Registered: Aug 2013
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posted June 23, 2014 07:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by Swift Freeze: Don't let other people tell you that you should be in a relationship. There are a lot of scenarios and examples, where people demonise and make being single into a negative thing.Have you ever been rejected from a Dinner party? Or a trip out somewhere with two other couples. What about going to the Cinema with your two best friends and their partners? Society has impressed upon people the idea that being single is bad. The vast majority of adverts depict either a family or couple. It is perfectly okay to be single, and it is perfectly okay to not find love. Those people who say, "don't worry it will happen!" Are wrong, for some people it never happens. Sometimes, people will go through life and never find someone to settle down with. That doesn't mean they won't have relationships here and there, or a rich and fulfilling life, but there is so much more than finding a life partner. Most of my friends who are with long term partners, I'll be generous and say 2 years, although really I think anything over a year is heading towards long term, don't do too much with their free time. Maybe that's their interests and character, but people who are coupled up, in my opinion tend to spend less time doing things for themselves. The vast majority are unable to make decisions by themselves, which I can understand, your decisions affect two people now, so it is at least polite to check. What I really don't understand though, is the phone calls. You must call your significant other at least once per day? Even though you've only gone away for a 3 day weekend? I mean what is going to happen in those 3 days that you won't be able catch up on when you get back? Maybe it's based on insecurity; "Why are you calling them?" "Cause otherwise they'll be upset." "Why will they be upset?" "Because I didn't call." "Why would not calling upset them?" "..." (The look) Of course it's equally probable that people would consider me a cold hearted emotionless vacuum for not understanding. When it comes down to it, to me, there seems to be an inherent divide between mariagedom and singledom. Where each group has some sort of distrust and fear of each other. Despite the fact that at some point all married people were single people, and that at least half of all single people will currently get married. I think the marriage rate is around 49%-52% or so. Country dependent of course.
Good post. Many people go into relationships for the sake of it, because it gives them this idealistic image of being worthy and loveable, but really it's just to fulfill their insecurities because they are scared of being alone, not because they truly love the person. There are some relationships that are not superficial though. But I think relationships, people need to look at them more logically rather than emotionally. I think the emotional "please love me, am I worthy enough for you?" attitude in society sucks, the media encourages out insecurities of this. If people loved themselves I think everyone would be happy and relationships would be a choice not a nessecity to life. You should only give to others when you love yourself. I hate society's views on love, because it isn't actually about love, it's about peoples own insecurities and denying themselves of self love, we are taught we need approval by others, but that is impossible to please everyone, and trying to gain approval from people you dont know is only going to cause pain. Once you love yourself, you feel the love of everything else, and things just feel natural. IP: Logged |
LaFatale Knowflake Posts: 31 From: Los Angeles, California, USA Registered: Nov 2013
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posted June 23, 2014 07:49 AM
I've definitely given up. I feel so jaded. I equate romantic love with chemical brain reactions. I equate heartbreak with a bruised ego. I'm 27 and most girls my age are trippen about finding the "one" and eventually get married in a couple of years. For me I'm like "pshhh" *brushingShoulderOff. I think feelings never last... after that it's just companionship/respect that remains... For a venus in Aries like me, that shet is way too boring son!Moon square Venus Venus conjunction Jupiter Venus trine Saturn Venus square Neptune Venus sextile Midheaven Venus in 8th house IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 23, 2014 08:00 AM
quote: I equate romantic love with chemical brain reactions.
You're not wrong. http://www.hypnosisbyfrederique.com/highlove.htm Any kind of love is driven by hormones. quote: I think feelings never last...
They can last but in the majority of cases they won't be crazily intense forever. Get over it Actually, I think it could be even unhealthy. Imagine being on drugs constantly for a few decades... ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 23, 2014 10:10 AM
I too probably qualify as jaded, more or less. Sometimes I think "it's just hormones" or I'm weirded out by the idea of me being in a relationship or it simply feels pointless to me. The older I get the stronger it gets. But maybe I won't end up rejecting this possibility ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 9430 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted June 23, 2014 12:47 PM
Love... is the meaning of life. Without it, you are nothing. I am nothing. There is no sense without Love.Love is Creation, it is the Life force. And when you feel love towards yourself... You want to share it with someone else, you want to share it with everyone and everything. But a special other becomes a strong desire, a fire burning in your soul. That's because love is closely tied to faith and hope. When you work on love you automatically become more faithful and more hopeful; doubt and fear are removed, and really, isn't it obvious that it is fear that drives away love? The people who say that when you love yourself, you don't want nor need love from others... are wrong... because love isn't about GETTING, it's about giving... So when your cup is full, you can't help but want to share it. It overflows, and it feels good. Now call me an idealist or naive, I don't care.
*ducks tomatoes and rocks* On this note: Don't click if you're jaded
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hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 10286 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 23, 2014 01:11 PM
I haven't given up on the idea of romantic love, but there's a large part of me that feels like I'll never find it and has come to terms with that.I have Saturn squares, and Taurus moon (interesting we both have one of our love planets in a "fixed" sign. Maybe that has something to do with it?) I know someone with Moon square Venus and he has bad luck in love too. Then again aspects present themselves in different ways, so I'm not ready to attribute this as a definition yet. IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 23, 2014 01:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: Love... is the meaning of life. Without it, you are nothing. I am nothing. There is no sense without Love.Love is Creation, it is the Life force. And when you feel love towards yourself... You want to share it with someone else, you want to share it with everyone and everything. But a special other becomes a strong desire, a fire burning in your soul. That's because love is closely tied to faith and hope. When you work on love you automatically become more faithful and more hopeful; doubt and fear are removed, and really, isn't it obvious that it is fear that drives away love? The people who say that when you love yourself, you don't want nor need love from others... are wrong... because love isn't about GETTING, it's about giving... So when your cup is full, you can't help but want to share it. It overflows, and it feels good. Now call me an idealist or naive, I don't care.
*ducks tomatoes and rocks* On this note: Don't click if you're jaded
------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
babybull82 Knowflake Posts: 891 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted June 23, 2014 01:23 PM
Just thought of something, everybody assumed the OP was speaking of giving up on "romantic love" which is true, but there are OTHER types of love. Like I LOVE my children, I LOVE my family. So in a sense, nobody ever REALLY gives up on love. This just made me think of something else, why do we put SO MUCH emphasis on romantic love in the first place? Like it's the end all be all of life, because it's not..well that's my opinion anyway. IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 23, 2014 01:27 PM
Hmmm. Currently there's no human I love in any way and it may never change. I won this thread ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
babybull82 Knowflake Posts: 891 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted June 23, 2014 01:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: Hmmm. Currently there's no human I love in any way and it may never change. I won this thread
Is it wrong that I laughed at this? I'm not laughing at your situation, the fact you said you won and that smiley just made me giggle a bit. IP: Logged |