posted July 04, 2014 09:05 PM            

Nice guy... Poor thing! Another thing I should emphasize is my mars is in libra, hers in aries, so she may be more inclined to put the hurt on with much less remorse. Hahaha! I like her!!! Lol.

Moon/mars even in easy aspect has the potential to be tumultuous. Yes, moon nurtures mars ego, and mars can encourage moon to be more confident, but consider if you really wanna encourage more of her mars energy. Possibly, it's a positive interaction, but on a tightrope.

I can't say I really dislike venus in Scorpio in the chart of someone else. I think it's just a really bad combo for my husband. He's a hypercritical virgo that can concentrate on the most irrelevant and insignificant stuff with Scorpio intensity until a shiny ball rolls by and captures the interest of his aries moon. It's chaos. I wish I had an alligator infested moat.

In my case, my good qualities outweigh the bad. Don't be discouraged by one aspect. All couples fight.

posted July 04, 2014 10:11 PM            

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If you exude capricorn qualities, I think that would help a lot. That's only my opinion though. My attraction profile is heavily geared toward capricorn. It may not be the same in her case, although with her cap moon, those qualities should still be a significant need. There's a possibility that her moon is conjunct saturn. That means she has walls surrounded by alligator infested moats! How fun! Take up alligator wrestling in case she pushes you from a ledge.

Nice guy... Poor thing! Another thing I should emphasize is my mars is in libra, hers in aries, so she may be more inclined to put the hurt on with much less remorse. Hahaha! I like her!!! Lol.

Moon/mars even in easy aspect has the potential to be tumultuous. Yes, moon nurtures mars ego, and mars can encourage moon to be more confident, but consider if you really wanna encourage more of her mars energy. Possibly, it's a positive interaction, but on a tightrope.

I can't say I really dislike venus in Scorpio in the chart of someone else. I think it's just a really bad combo for my husband. He's a hypercritical virgo that can concentrate on the most irrelevant and insignificant stuff with Scorpio intensity until a shiny ball rolls by and captures the interest of his aries moon. It's chaos. I wish I had an alligator infested moat.

In my case, my good qualities outweigh the bad. Don't be discouraged by one aspect. All couples fight.

My moon is 6 degrees square saturn too, so if your friend does indeed have her moon conjunct saturn, she will be hard to reach. I married my husband for all the wrong reasons. I wasn't truly in love with him, and it was easy to commit to that than a relationship that I had a real stake in, so beware. My husband is also that "nice guy," and I knew that. He was a safe bet.

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Hmmmmm

No she has her saturn in capricorn, but away from her moon: more than 14 degrees. The only thing it does, is sextiling my venus. My sun conjunct her uranus, and her neptune is in capricorn but away from my sun.

I have a very aggressive side, but i never use it with people i love. I can't.

And HEY! You seem to be liking the fact she'll raise hell on me what the hell

I have my mars in libra, so my venus in scorpio's intensity manifests mostly in romance and seduction, and some sexual jokes and sex as a culture in general.Maybe a bit of jealousy and possessiveness, but no crazy **** .

posted July 04, 2014 10:35 PM            

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Hmmmmm

No she has her saturn in capricorn, but away from her moon: more than 14 degrees. The only thing it does, is sextiling my venus. My sun conjunct her uranus, and her neptune is in capricorn but away from my sun.

I have a very aggressive side, but i never use it with people i love. I can't.

And HEY! You seem to be liking the fact she'll raise hell on me what the hell

I have my mars in libra, so my venus in scorpio's intensity manifests mostly in romance and seduction, and some sexual jokes and sex as a culture in general.Maybe a bit of jealousy and possessiveness, but no crazy **** .

My problem is not fights. My problem is instability. I don't like someone giving me 37 kinds of bad treatment and carelessness because she's got issues. I just want peace

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Hahaha! Well, my moon is near the cusp of my 8th house; pain isn't always of the unpleasant sort. I'm twisted!

I wish I could help you more, but I wouldn't date my 24 year old self. I'm not proud of how I behaved, nor do I wish to continue to be that way. I was never careless, unstable, yes. The overwhelming feelings and outburst were the worst. I feel so bad for her! I wanna giver her a hug. If it helps, I felt terribly as I acted out thinking to myself, 'just stop,' but it can be so hard to control.

I wish you the best MJ, her too!!!

posted July 04, 2014 11:17 PM            

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Hahaha! Well, my moon is near the cusp of my 8th house; pain isn't always of the unpleasant sort. I'm twisted!

I wish I could help you more, but I wouldn't date my 24 year old self. I'm not proud of how I behaved, nor do I wish to continue to be that way. I was never careless, unstable, yes. The overwhelming feelings and outburst were the worst. I feel so bad for her! I wanna giver her a hug. If it helps, I felt terribly as I acted out thinking to myself, 'just stop,' but it can be so hard to control.

I wish you the best MJ, her too!!!

Oh, and I totally recommend you use your aggressive side!!! What are you thinking??? Lol

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Well... If it will lead to sex, i can use that aggressive side lol.

It's true: each time i see her, i feel like: i understand you, i feel for you, it's ok: come here.

I have my moon in the 8th house

posted July 04, 2014 11:23 PM            

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If it helps:

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Wow she do looks like niamh!!! Weird

posted July 04, 2014 11:31 PM            

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If it helps:

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My pleasure, MJ!

posted July 05, 2014 12:11 AM            

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Originally posted by ReachingForTheStars:
My pleasure, MJ!

Interesting, I look similar to Niamh too.

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posted July 05, 2014 12:48 AM            

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Dammit you're all hot like that ?

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posted July 05, 2014 01:16 AM            

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Haha! An older version. I could be the (much) lesser attractive (I'm being modest) first cousin of Kristin Kreuk. I like her better; we're the same age, and of similar descent.

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Oooh!

posted July 05, 2014 02:27 PM            

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Oooh!

You were saying you are srparated ^_^ ?

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posted July 05, 2014 02:41 PM            

Wish you the best!

posted July 05, 2014 03:31 PM            

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You're so bad. So are we. If you're from/live in Cairo then I'm from a land far far away!

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"We" Who lol? And why am i bad? For coming on to you you mean ? Lol.

posted July 05, 2014 03:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Dude.. why do you want to save her? It seems to me like she has her head up her arse and she even told you that straight and warned you about it. Going into a relationship with the intention of saving the other person is such a bad, bad idea. It is not your role to save her, address her to a therapist, please. Date her afterwards if you still want to. I get it, ohhhh trust me, I get it ~ that is why I am saying, find a nice girl without issues (or less issues) because this does not sound very positive.

Wish you the best!

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Thank you

I just feel that things could go well if i just reached some deep side in her, and she would just let go to me. I feel i can nurture her very well.

posted July 05, 2014 03:47 PM            

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"We" Who lol? And why am i bad? For coming on to you you mean ? Lol.

Neverland? Peter Pan?

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posted July 05, 2014 04:21 PM            

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We as in you and I my friend! Lol. Yes, for coming on to me after discussing your friend and how you haven't felt for someone like this in years. I'm just giving you a hard time, all in fun!! = ) No, not my fantasy home, I'm really from a land far far fm Egypt. You've possibly never met someone of my ancestral background. I have a sag descendant I <3 foreigners!!!

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Yeh sometimes i am bad

Sag ascendant here I LOVE foreigners too

posted July 05, 2014 05:07 PM            

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Yeh sometimes i am bad

Sag ascendant here I LOVE foreigners too

And... Try me I have met A LOT of different people.

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posted July 05, 2014 06:11 PM            

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Yes, for coming on to me after discussing your friend and how you haven't felt for someone like this in years.

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I wanna emphasize something here.

We are not like close friends, and we dated only 3 times. But she is sooo closed! But i can EASILY see through her. I can see her delicate nature, her sensitivity and depth, behind all these capricornian fortresses. And by the way: i was going to write her a message to tell her:"Lay off these walls and moats with crocodiles around your fortress of solitude!" Even before you mentioned the moat in your comment I felt like you understand her as i do This made me be sure i have my sun conjunct her moon.

As much as i am into her, she is actually in denial.

I mean, she knows we can be something, and she feels it, she feels she is vulnerable to me, and i can feel she knows i can see through her, but she is in denial and prefers to run away.

Hey, i have sen your ancestry before But that's a nice combination!

My mother is 50/50 turkish algerian, my father is 50/25/25 levantine, turkish and egyptian.

posted July 05, 2014 07:33 PM            

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She may be less in denial than she would have you perceive, and more unwilling to deal with the vulnerability of such an attraction. If I do understand her accurately and she is anything like me, then It's actually the very real awareness of her feelings and the possibilities that's got her running scared. Us cap moons have a tending towards pessimism. Those wonderful feelings of romance and love can have us feeling pain. It's that way for me at least. She probably sees both the positive and negative potentials between you two, but is too afraid of that negative outcome. In her eyes, it may not be worth the risk, or she's simply too afraid to take a leap of faith. I'm always more inclined to expect the worst, but hope for the best. If I really adore and respect someone, I value their opinions, and am always afraid of losing their good regard. Since she's admitted to the emotional instability, she may be sensitive to freaking you out by it. The wanting to have a partnership of unconditional love and respect can be so strong it feels like a need, and the last thing I'd want to admit to is needing someone. The fact is though, everybody needs love! Right?! Lol. It seems like she has a certain negative view of herself, and is reluctant to get into a relationship that ends in validating that view. I feel her pain.

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I didn't mean denial, i meant what you said: afraid of vulnerability.

And OH MY GOD this is EXACTLY what i WISH to tell her! You just said what's on my mind for her SOOO Accurately!

Because i am the same! I am a capricorn, i know how it is to be harsh on oneself, i know how it is to be pessimistic, afraid, and not wanting to feel vulnerable, but at the same time, deeply and maddeningly WANTS to be completely in love!

I just see ALL what you write when i look in her eyes!

I feel i want to comfort her, you know? I wanna take her in my arms and tell her:"It's ok: don't say anything, i understand."

You just said EXACTLY what i have written in my notes to tell her I have written some things that i wish to tell her so that she'd be more courageous and feel a little bit more safe, and that we can work it together, because "I understand you, i SWEAR i do!"

But then again, since i am a capricorn myself lol, i get doubts as to the quality of the relationship i am going to have with her because of all these problems.

posted July 05, 2014 09:19 PM            

It's too bad I missed my opportunity being married and all. It's why I separated from my husband. I got a glimpse into what I really long for, but haven't been willing to admit. I thought to myself, what am I doing with someone I don't really love? I'm cheating myself and my husband out of real happiness. Separating is my attempt at making things right. By comparison, my husband and I have grown to have a pretty stable, working relationship, but what it lacks I don't want to live without if I don't have to. I decided to give us both the opportunity at something real. My husband doesn't want to divorce me, but unfortunately, I think it's inevitable.

If the interest and feelings are indeed mutual, I would totally appreciate a written letter. = ))) Writing is by far the best approach!! You're so right!!! I hope she receives it well.

posted July 05, 2014 09:46 PM            

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The only thing I would worry about is her age. I'm 32, and only now willing and hopefully, ready to embark into such scary territory. Oh, and I should add that I've only been willing to make these realizations since after my Saturn return. Hopefully, your friend will be quicker to her revelations.

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Lol. Capricorn placements have this effect on some women. Being a cougar i mean

Too bad about your husband. Sometimes just things go this way. And you said a word i loved: "REAL"! You know? Sometimes i think the too much saturn effect in my chart is what holding me from this happening. I'd never get into a relation except when i feel that this thing you are talking about it present. Some sort of "truth" when i look in her eyes. As if when i look in her eyes, everything disappears, and i can see and hear nothing except her feelings. And yes i mean this: hear and see nothing except her feelings. Like as if her feelings becomes a tangible entity to be held.

I want this connection. I want to be able to feel someone deeply inside. Because by nature, i LOVE to nurture women's feelings, if i appreciate them. I want a relationship because i want to give this kind of attention. This kind of delicately handling a girl's emotions.

What do you mean by scary territory? You mean the fact that you are sort of being "invaded"? Or like... talked into releasing yourself and your emotions?

And Gemini loves reading and communicating. I write in an interesting way too.

The problem is truly this feeling: invaded. I don't know how will she accept me talking TOO deep inside her. I will be like... reading her as a book, while she thinks she has the biggest walls ever.

To be honest, i don't know if she likes me or not, as she runs away from it, not willing to show me anything. She is not giving me a dime, lol. She knows we have something together, we have something special, but she is still running. She is scared, the poor thing.

One thing though, her aries mars will very much appreciate my pursuit. And will make her feel excited and intrigues by the danger of the moment.

Earlier you mentioned "if i exude capricorn qualities". I don't have many planets in capricorn: only sun and mercury and both aspect her moon. But there is something i'd like to ask, i don't know if it's true or not: having a leo moon and a sagittarian ascendant and sun and mercury in the 1st house, with all this openness, i think this makes my capricornian features spilling on the ground, so they'd be in the front cover for everyone with amplification. Is this true astrologically?

posted July 05, 2014 11:01 PM            

I'd never get into a relation except when i feel that this thing you are talking about it present. Some sort of "truth" when i look in her eyes.

- I know, right! I'm never getting myself into this kinda passionless relationship again.

As if when i look in her eyes, everything disappears, and i can see and hear nothing except her feelings. And yes i mean this: hear and see nothing except her feelings. Like as if her feelings becomes a tangible entity to be held.

^ This is so Scorpio/NepToony. Lol. Reading that makes me feel warm and fuzzy. Hahaha. She's lucky to have your affection. My descendant ruler, jupiter, is in Scorpio conjunct my vertex in my 5th house making an out of sign conjunction to pluto, and I've got neptune (ruler of my 10th) in my 7th. I totally identify with your words. Your moon is definitely in your 8th house. Is neptune somewhere prominent in your chart?

I want this connection. I want to be able to feel someone deeply inside. Because by nature, i LOVE to nurture women's feelings, if i appreciate them. I want a relationship because i want to give this kind of attention.

- Me too! Me too! Sigh!

And Gemini loves reading and communicating. I write in an interesting way too.

^ This is true!

The problem is truly this feeling: invaded. I don't know how will she accept me talking TOO deep inside her. I will be like... reading her as a book, while she thinks she has the biggest walls ever.

- Ya. This is something to think about. At 24 I may have felt violated and insecure. Can't you just talk to her the way you're talking to me?

To be honest, i don't know if she likes me or not, as she runs away from it, not willing to show me anything. She is not giving me a dime, lol. She knows we have something together, we have something special, but she is still running. She is scared, the poor thing.

- She may be drowning in so many conflicting emotions right now that she can't see the way up.

One thing though, her aries mars will very much appreciate my pursuit. And will make her feel excited and intrigues by the danger of the moment.

- True! I know my husband enjoyed the chase. His mars in Leo is trine his Aries moon.

Earlier you mentioned "if i exude capricorn qualities". I don't have many planets in capricorn: only sun and mercury ancd6
d both aspect her moon.

^ That's significant. I think anything that conjunct your lights are important. It may be more important to you though. Mercury is the ruler of your descendant, and your sun is the dispositor of your moon and rules your 8th house. She activates your desire for a committed relationship and deep intimacy while subtly stirring that Leo heart of yours!

But there is something i'd like to ask, i don't know if it's true or not: having a leo moon and a sagittarian ascendant and sun and mercury in the 1st house, with all this openness, i think this makes my capricornian features spilling on the ground, so they'd be in the front cover for everyone with amplification. Is this true astrologically?

- Indeed! Your capricorn traits should feature prominently.

posted July 06, 2014 10:09 AM            

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Why does love have to be so complicated?! Lol. Shouldn't it be easy and natural? Or at least natural and comfortable.

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I have no idea, but it annoys the hell out of me, lol.

My Asc is at 19° Sag, and the first house ends in 23° Cap.

And yes: my 12th house ruler, pluto, sextiles my sun very tightly (less than 1°), and it trines my lilith almost exact. I don't know if this has any significance.

And, my neptune is at 29° Sag, my sun is at 0,45 capricorn. So it is in my first house, and makes an out of sign conjunction. Psyche is in my 1st house too at 27° Sag conjuncting my neptune. I also don't know if this has any significance.

And yes i have my moon in my 8th house ^_^

And, the moon is actually this house's ruler, too.

My 5th house is ruled by venus (taurus at 2°), so a venus in taurus person is significant to me.

I will see about talking to her face to face. But i don't think she can take it. But right now i am really hesitant. There are very nice things, but i am still wary. I don't know i will just take my time until i decide.

Hey! How the hell did you know i have an 8th house moon ?

posted July 06, 2014 02:39 PM            

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Originally posted by MagnumJoe:
Well... If it will lead to sex, i can use that aggressive side lol.

It's true: each time i see her, i feel like: i understand you, i feel for you, it's ok: come here.

I have my moon in the 8th house

Thank you soooo much, i really enjoyed you helping me

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Wish I could say I got mad astrology skills, and could sniff out your 8th house moon, but no, you mentioned it. I do sense that sun conjunct neptune though

I totally overlooked the moon conjunct Uranus. That can surely add to the head/heart conflict, and make her emotions more volatile. This is a good interp. on the aspect:
http://astromatrix.org/Horoscopes/Planet-Aspects/Moon-Conjunct-Uranus

If her mars is square Uranus too, that can be pretty bad. It's one of those "red flag" aspects. Outburst can be violent, and they're described as stubborn and accident prone. The same site above has a good description of that aspect too. Some people refer to mars/Uranus hard aspects as the "my way or the highway" aspect, so as for your hard to cooperate with question...
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum33/HTML/000071.html

I was concerned about a mars conjunct Uranus aspect in my friends natal. He would get into fist fights and attack out of nowhere. I have a cousin with a first house Uranus, and OMG he's immovable - stubborn beyond words. For this accommodating gemini to think that, it's bad!!! Lol

This just keeps getting worse and worse. It's no wonder you're so hesitant.

I have a mars sextile Uranus. I don't know if I can really isolate the aspect to describe it.

I don't think Uranus trine venus is so bad, makes her exciting.

My ascendant is conjunct my sun at 16,17 degrees gem.

Moon at 9 degrees cap trine my venus at 10degrees Taurus, so my moon does overlay your first house

My 5th is also ruled by venus, but in libra. I have mars, saturn, and pluto in libra 5,15,24. It's all in my 5th house (except mars, it's conjunct the cusp from the 4th).