posted July 06, 2014 08:22 PM            

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Originally posted by MagnumJoe:
Oh she should bring it on

And should she do that, she will end up bent on a table receiving the D

Aries mars loves this too. And i believe moon square mars is prone to this too.

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Whoa!!!! The pride has a new king!!! Damn.

Ya, moon square mars finds that exciting.

posted July 06, 2014 08:34 PM            

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Originally posted by ReachingForTheStars:
Whoa!!!! The pride has a new king!!! Damn.

Ya, moon square mars finds that exciting.

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Lol. I have a mars in libra: i tone down confrontations very well.

I dated for a brief time a leo, with a libra moon and an aries mars, a gemini venus.

She would have this "mistrust" outbusrts of awful accusations. But i always remained composed and in control until she feels bad about herself and come into my arms crying and apologizing: only because i don't retaliate to any of her hurtful or rude words. So it ends up nicely, and ends up HOT too. I am goid at talking things out, especially big issues.

posted July 06, 2014 08:46 PM            

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Originally posted by MagnumJoe:
Lol. I have a mars in libra: i tone down confrontations very well.

I dated for a brief time a leo, with a libra moon and an aries mars, a gemini venus.

She would have this "mistrust" outbusrts of awful accusations. But i always remained composed and in control until she feels bad about herself and come into my arms crying and apologizing: only because i don't retaliate to any of her hurtful or rude words. So it ends up nicely, and ends up HOT too. I am goid at talking things out, especially big issues.

So, not pride or anything, i just learned it

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posted July 06, 2014 08:58 PM            

I don't mind being the peacemaker, the problem is when a girl is too stubborn to appreciate this quality or the fact that i put some effort to soothe and ease things out.

Technically, for this girl, i have a solutionto each of her problems. Like the uranus aspect: again my venus is supposed to square the mars uranus midpoint, while my mercury and sun surrounds it.

posted July 06, 2014 09:33 PM            

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Originally posted by ReachingForTheStars:
MmmmHmmm, I wonder if she thinks so fervently about you. What does being her salvation offer you? This is so neptune conjunct your sun speaking. I'm gonna blame my mini bout on the blurred, misty fog of neptune. Are you familiar with neptune and Pisces because what you keep saying is very typical of neptune conjunct your sun. If this is indeed the case, you can tend to give too much in relationships, and end up feeling unappreciated and exploited. It's best to channel that need to save people elsewhere.

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I do save people a lot: i am a doctor, LOL.

Anyway, i think "saving" her offers me "Her"! Offers me her love, and her complete dedication and loyalty and appreciation!

When someone helps you through something very "Big" as your own self, you will be grateful forever, and it will be a very strong pillar for the relationship.

On the other hand, i feel i want to help her because i do like her. Seeing through her makes me feel a lot of her femininity and kindness. And i like that about her. So kinda want to liberate her good side from her bad side. Or give her a chance to reconcile between her "selves".

I feel that whatever conflicts or bad habits she does, she is essentially very pure at heart and very kind. So, building her up will be like a perfect love story lol

I don't have except my instincts to trust. I have info of course (astrology + what does people around her think of her), but i will go with my sense at the end.

There is a great possibility that when i send her a letter to tell her that i fully understand her, she would still keep running away... I think this possibility is close 60-70%.

If she just had given us another few chances to know each other, so i could assess how much our relation would be successful, i wouldn't be that hesitant right now.

posted July 06, 2014 09:34 PM            

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Originally posted by MagnumJoe:

Technically, for this girl, i have a solutionto each of her problems. Like the uranus aspect: again my venus is supposed to square the mars uranus midpoint, while my mercury and sun surrounds it.

You can see how i keep coming back and forth, lol.

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posted July 06, 2014 09:39 PM            

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Originally posted by ReachingForTheStars:
MmmmHmmm, I wonder if she thinks so fervently about you.

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I remember the first time we met, at the end of the meeting, i went to my car. And then she went away.

I was looking at her back while she is going to cross a street, and before she crosses the street, she looked back, and she made a VERY HONEST and TRUE eye contact with me for like a split second.

In this moment, time completely froze, lol.

This look, had SOOO many meanings. No girl makes this look except when there is something.

It had a mix of many meanings. It had a "I feel home with you" with a "I don't know if this can workout or no" with a bit of "Too bad i will probably have to stop seeing you" and some "I know you understand me, i can feel it".

posted July 06, 2014 09:43 PM            

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One more thing. She need to love and appreciate you for who you are, not how you balance her, or how well you can understand and comfort her. You have very admirable intentions, and I sense you're good judgement present, but Neptune is very good at dissolving good judgement. This is just a really bad start, and I want to make sure I say it as everyone else has.

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I think essentially these things are kinda "intertwined".

posted July 06, 2014 09:57 PM            

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Originally posted by MagnumJoe:
I remember the first time we met, at the end of the meeting, i went to my car. And then she went away.

I was looking at her back while she is going to cross a street, and before she crosses the street, she looked back, and she made a VERY HONEST and TRUE eye contact with me for like a split second.

In this moment, time completely froze, lol.

This look, had SOOO many meanings. No girl makes this look except when there is something.

It had a mix of many meanings. It had a "I feel home with you" with a "I don't know if this can workout or no" with a bit of "Too bad i will probably have to stop seeing you" and some "I know you understand me, i can feel it".

She might not be actively thinking, but i KNOW she thinks i am special.

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You are definitely special! Lol! I mean that!

You are also very idealistic, and have romanticized the cr*p out of your connection! I did the EXACT same thing with my friend!!! We had that kind of soul peering eye contact. I know how special it feels. I'm so confused right now! I don't know what to tell you!!! Stop looking into her eyes!!! Lol!!

My guy friend is in some kind of 'friend with benefits' relationship with a girl he has composite sun,venus,Juno,Neptune,Eros, and psyche conjunct under a degree!!! Under a degree!! Saturn conjuncts this by 3 degrees!!! She has Uranus conjunct her venus; he has mar conjunct Uranus. I think they like their open relationship. It's not something I could do! I don't share!!

posted July 06, 2014 10:04 PM            

And if we got back, at any sign of bad treatment or difficulty, i will reassess things and might bail out.

I will see what i can do.

posted July 06, 2014 10:14 PM            

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I think essentially these things are kinda "intertwined".

I mean, if you like a guy, and he understands you, and then he helped you with yourself, wouldn't you really love him? I think a component of love, is actually completing someone and giving them balance in their lives. I do believe so at least.

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No! Lol. You're crazy MJ!!! Lol

You hear of those relationships where two people grow to genuinely love each other, but I wouldn't count on it.

Yes, I hear of the 'other half,' and a person that 'complements' you, but wouldn't you rather just have a whole person from the get go?!! Lol I think I'm done with those romantic thoughts.

Wouldn't it be nice to have the harmony you describe? Just make certain she is really, truly attracted to you.

posted July 06, 2014 10:26 PM            

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Originally posted by MagnumJoe:
I do save people a lot: i am a doctor, LOL.

Anyway, i think "saving" her offers me "Her"! Offers me her love, and her complete dedication and loyalty and appreciation!

When someone helps you through something very "Big" as your own self, you will be grateful forever, and it will be a very strong pillar for the relationship.

On the other hand, i feel i want to help her because i do like her. Seeing through her makes me feel a lot of her femininity and kindness. And i like that about her. So kinda want to liberate her good side from her bad side. Or give her a chance to reconcile between her "selves".

I feel that whatever conflicts or bad habits she does, she is essentially very pure at heart and very kind. So, building her up will be like a perfect love story lol

I don't have except my instincts to trust. I have info of course (astrology + what does people around her think of her), but i will go with my sense at the end.

There is a great possibility that when i send her a letter to tell her that i fully understand her, she would still keep running away... I think this possibility is close 60-70%.

If she just had given us another few chances to know each other, so i could assess how much our relation would be successful, i wouldn't be that hesitant right now.

Sometimes i think that, either i want her or not, i HAVE to send her that letter for her own good, away from any personal gains (she returning to me) for me. And probably probably, that is what's going to happen, lol.

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I was abused by my mother's husband, and left home when I was around 15. I lived in a foster home for about a year until my father was granted custody of me. He worked on different islands, and would be away from home a lot. I felt really lonely, shut myself away, and never really spoke about the things that happened.

posted July 06, 2014 10:27 PM            

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Originally posted by ReachingForTheStars:
You got it for her bad, MJ!!! BAD!!! Lol

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I just don't find someone with that kind of depth in their eyes easily

I really wish i could find someone else, but i haven't in a very long while

And believe me, i am not the kind of a person who'd stay in an bad relationship: i end these things with an off switch very easily. I know very well even how to kill my heart.

posted July 06, 2014 10:30 PM            

Her father is a VERY tough person and has anger issues, and was rarely home because of his work.

posted July 06, 2014 10:45 PM            

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She has a similar past but much less tough.

Her father is a VERY tough person and has anger issues, and was rarely home because of his work.

Well, imagine if you did love him as a person! That would have been AWESOME, right?

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posted July 06, 2014 10:47 PM            

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And don't worry i am not going to throw myself and make a bridge out of myself for her to pass a river of lava. No that's not me lol.

I know what i should do now.

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Hahahahahaha!

posted July 07, 2014 02:54 AM            

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I think this wonderful dream you have of saving her is a beautiful nightmare. What a tragedy. You're so attracted to the chaos inside of her. That's not healthy, MJ! It's not her that needs protection from lava.

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I think you still don't get it.

I can literally turn all feelings towards her off if she did something bad or hurt me. Believe me, i am the last person on earth to tolerate bad attitude in the name of "love". I don't believe in unconditional love by the way.

All i am gonna do is just truly try to help her as a friend, no more. If she wanted to do something more, there will be rules and limits, if she crosses them: bye bye.

You remember that leo girl? I DID leave at the end. She was sooo kind, but she was crazy: couldn't take all that $#!+ she was throwing at me regularly. She was devastated, but maybe this will make her learn to control herself. She was very unstable she actually took medications. But anyway she wasn't nearly as evil as my mom.

Remember: my mom has this aspect. My dad is ok with it, got used to it. But me? HELL NO! She needs to stop what she is doing because it's sort of an obsession: it's like a "forbidden pleasure" that she always does, and never want to quit. My dad and i sometimes fight because of the things i tell her, that she needs to mature and resolve her conflicts and stop being a genuine a-hole. My dad tells me that she is that way, and that's it, but i still pressure her and put her into awkwardly embarrassing situations to expose her faults, because my mom NEVER apologizes for any stupid things she does. I have NEVER seen ANY remorse on her face after ANY wronging she did to any of us. And sometimes she is cold about it and gives the "go F yourself " attitude, even though she knows she is being a complete jerk! She knows it and she is ok with it, and we should shut up and that's it! Not only that, she hurts someone, then blames it on him, and changes words and recount sfacts differently to make it his fault. And doesn't quit doin g that. And when she is confronted with an evidence that she has been being manipulative, indirect and plainly selfish, she goes into a frenzy of insults, plays the victim, and runs away. And even then i don't stop: i tell her to stop playing the victim and stay on point , and admit to her fault. Sometimes she screams at me:"you think you can 'raise' me after all these years?", and i i say to her:"Yes i will, especially that your parents failed miserably, and you are not willing to ever face yourself, so i will make you face yourself more than you can imagine, because you need to leave "teens" and move forward to adulthood." My mom is 58 by the way, lol.

posted July 07, 2014 05:11 AM            

Awesome! You have a stance on unconditional love. Good for you. Idk what I believe about it. Love without limits doesn't seem human. No one should have to endure abuse in any form for the sake of love. How is that even love? I think people just want some measure of acceptance.

You're mom sounds horrible. I'm sorry you had to grow up with that. If there are any type of intolerable people in the world, it's the ones who stomp around thinking they can trample on anyone, blame others for the behavior, and walk away with no remorse. What separates me from them, and hopefully your friend, is I want to be someone I can genuinely love and respect. I'm willing to hear, acknowledge, apologize for, and fix what I must to be somebody I like.

I know helping her achieve that self love is your goal, and a really ambitious one it is! Not impossible. It's just that I know as well as she probably does that exposing you to her chaotic moments creates even more insecurity than initially present. There will be nothing you can say to calm her fears. Until she can handle herself better on her own, she will live with some fear that her next outburst, snide remark, or paranoid assertion will be the last you'll endure. This creates anxiety, doubt, and a whole lot of other unpleasantness that does nothing but aggravate mars even more. If Uranus is in the mix making her feel suffocated by all the intensity, she is going to burst. She'll swing from hating you, and never wanting to see you again to being so sorry because it wasn't her talking. Sad thing is she kinda wasn't, and let me explain...

You said in a previous post something about upsetting her mars with the attraction between you... Yes. The love that you think can be so healing is just another threat. As soon as she starts feeling, mars goes on high alert like a paranoid crack addict. She can blow up at the most irrational and downright stupid things because feelings don't get the time it needs to process, mars just attacks.

Afterwards, the guilt and disappointment in herself for being so foolish just reinforces all the insecurity. She'll feel the urge to push you away more, and erect higher walls. Peace with this kind of instability will be minimal. It's a vicious cycle. You don't just snap out of something like this, and she doesn't need temporary affection. You know that saying, 'it's better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all?' We don't think so! Lol. The loss is seen as a testimony to being subpar.

This is just potentials based on how I've felt in the past. She could be worse or better. Best wishes, MJ!!! I think I've given you enough! =) Focusing on a friendship is a good plan!!!

posted July 07, 2014 11:05 AM            

That is a very good question! And answering it is not easy because i haven't seen the unstable side of her yet.

But, i will tell you what i like about her.

I like that when i look in her eyes, i see exactly what's inside.
I like that i can see the dry sarcasm she sometimes has towards something, but doesn't say it outloud.
I like that she laughs uncobtrollably hard on my jokes. To the point where she silently bends over with her head between her knees, and i can see her sides shaking.
I like her confidence and strength.
I like her looks: face and body. She has an amazing body.
I like the fact that she doesn't wear make up and depends on her natural beauty.
I like her calm manner and composed personality.
I like her simple yet elegant clothes.
I like her restless body language.
I like a streak of warmth i see in her eyes behind these huge walls.

Now what i dislike so far:

I dislike a trail of aggression at some of her replies.
I dislike a form of fixed ideas on some things (she has mercury in taurus).
I dislike that when we disagree, she goes quiet and doesn't go further detailing her point of view. Not forcing hers, or even acknowledging mine!

So... Basically, i like her as she is! But that's not all of her! And that's the problem...

And thank you for the second time: i will blush on the third

"Awesome! You have a stance on unconditional love."

I actually believe that love becomes uncobditional after some conditions become fulfilled If these happen, then true love will flourish.

"I'm willing to hear, acknowledge, apologize for, and fix what I must to be somebody I like."

If she has that, then perfect!

"Until she can handle herself better on her own, she will live with some fear that her next outburst, snide remark, or paranoid assertion will be the last you'll endure. This creates anxiety, doubt, and a whole lot of other unpleasantness that does nothing but aggravate mars even more."

"The love that you think can be so healing is just another threat. As soon as she starts feeling, mars goes on high alert like a paranoid crack addict. She can blow up at the most irrational and downright stupid things because feelings don't get the time it needs to process, mars just attacks.

Afterwards, the guilt and disappointment in herself for being so foolish just reinforces all the insecurity. She'll feel the urge to push you away more, and erect higher walls. Peace with this kind of instability will be minimal. It's a vicious cycle. You don't just snap out of something like this, and she doesn't need temporary affection. You know that saying, 'it's better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all?' We don't think so! Lol. The loss is seen as a testimony to being subpar."

*Sigh*... I know. I understand every word because i have been there for some time with my own squares.

"I think I've given you enough! =) Focusing on a friendship is a good plan!!!"

You had given me more than enough very early on

I read the description and yeh. I know.

posted July 07, 2014 04:58 PM            

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Earlier you mentioned "if i exude capricorn qualities". I don't have many planets in capricorn: only sun and mercury and both aspect her moon. But there is something i'd like to ask, i don't know if it's true or not: having a leo moon and a sagittarian ascendant and sun and mercury in the 1st house, with all this openness, i think this makes my capricornian features spilling on the ground, so they'd be in the front cover for everyone with amplification. Is this true astrologically?

Hey i love talking to you

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You know, MJ... I gotta take back my first response to this!! Lol

I'm going to assign you a celebrity avatar... Lol

I don't sense capricorn. What I do sense are the sensitive eyes, and big, jolly smile of Jake Gyllenhaal!!! Lol

Your jupiter and neptune are very prominently expressed = big, optimistic dreams!!! I think your friends moon is farther from your sun and closer to her neptune. I'm thinking you sense that aspect. She sounds like a Virgo rising.

This is me, lol:

Natalie Portman as Anne Boleyn!!! Hahaha! Master of manipulation:

Who can resist looks like these:

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You had given me more than enough very early on

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I am aware that I did, but as I continue to demonstrate, I am a typical Gemini!!! Blah blah blah