posted July 24, 2014 09:22 AM            

She likes assertive men who are not indecisive. Assertiveness is a quality that is important everyone has; it means you stand up for yourself by being firm but without been rude.

Also everyone finds someone who is confident and knows what they want attractive.

posted July 24, 2014 09:35 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
But... When women are imagining their perfect man and their expectations for him his humanity gets lost in the process,.. Basically women want a man that doesn't exist. They want a man who will let them cry on his shoulder but they weren't equipped to deal with him, his pain, and his insecurities.. So when a man's humanity comes out they toss him away and continue their search for the man of their dreams.

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Ever notice that men do the same thing to women? Rejecting them when they are weak and kicking them when they are down?

No...didn't think so...

posted July 24, 2014 09:54 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:

No,
I think men try to talk it out but most women just won't hear it. I think women are raised from birth to be selfish when it comes to relationships. Basically they expect a man to nurture them like a parent would a child. Whether it be emotionally, physically, financially, or spiritually.. It really doesn't matter which... But most women expect men to baby them in some way or another.. Which is fine! But... When women are imagining their perfect man and their expectations for him his humanity gets lost in the process,.. Basically women want a man that doesn't exist. They want a man who will let them cry on his shoulder but they weren't equipped to deal with him, his pain, and his insecurities.. So when a man's humanity comes out they toss him away and continue their search for the man of their dreams. So basically this puts men in a sticky spot... Conform to what woman wants or be replaced.. Its that simple... So men put on an act... I see so many men who are in relationships or married and most of them are stifled and miserable.. Men are not allowed to cry, complain,be insecure, or have an opinion contrary to the woman's for that matter... But hey! The woman is happy and that's all that really matters right? Most men in relationships are puppets.. The woman pulls his strings and he dances.

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Huh? Sorry. But that's absolutely ridiculous. All of it.

posted July 24, 2014 10:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
Whoa whoa whoa... everyone is so feminist here lol.

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Are you talking about me?

I'm an egalitarian

I should have said above that SOME men mistreat women just like SOME women mistreat men. The sword swings in both directions.

posted July 24, 2014 10:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:

Are you talking about me?

I'm an egalitarian

I should have said above that SOME men mistreat women just like SOME women mistreat men. The sword swings in both directions.

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posted July 24, 2014 11:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
Whoa whoa whoa... everyone is so feminist here lol. I personally think men and women are both equal in how they treat each other. I've seen a bunch of females not treat their boyfriends right and males who do the same thing to their girlfriends.

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I agree with you. And I'm certainly not blowing up on AG.
But sorry his post is just his (seemingly quite) limited point of view.

posted July 24, 2014 11:27 AM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
I agree with you. And I'm certainly not blowing up on AG.
But sorry his post is just his (seemingly quite) limited point of view.

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Let's just say men and women really don't get each other at all.

posted July 24, 2014 11:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
EXACTLY what I'm saying. I'm this type of girl. It's not that I don't like guys who show emotions--those kind of pathetic losers that hide behind a tough exterior. On the contrary, I do like men who open up even with that tough personality they show. I don't mind it as long as they knows how to keep their **** together.

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
You have Mars in 5th house- the "attraction" mode and that is where your liking for the "macho" guys comes from.

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posted July 24, 2014 12:55 PM              

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Originally posted by Faith:

Ever notice that men do the same thing to women? Rejecting them when they are weak and kicking them when they are down?

No...didn't think so...

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Guilty.

This one time I spent like 3 weeks trying to get this woman to go out.
Then, after about a week of dating she gave signs of insecurity and jealousy.

posted July 24, 2014 02:05 PM            

That's not so bad, I once broke up with a guy because I didn't like the tuft of hair on his lower back...ew! ...but I never even told him why I stopped returning his phone calls. I just ran far, faaaaar away.

posted July 24, 2014 02:11 PM              

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@DF

That's not so bad, I once broke up with a guy because I didn't like the tuft of hair on his lower back...ew! ...but I never even told him why I stopped returning his phone calls. I just ran far, faaaaar away.

That's the kinda behavior aquaguy would disapprove of, I think.

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Bahahahaha

Do you have any Virgo?
I try not to be too critical but that sounds weird. Like... the beginnings of a little tail or something. lol

posted July 24, 2014 02:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
@starrynight

I'm not fire dominant, though.

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posted July 24, 2014 03:27 PM            

We strive for all gender stereotypes to be put to rest (e.g. women can't be in combat, men can't cry, etc.). These gender "roles" are socially constructed nonsense and they are hurtful to men and women.

Here is a good article for anyone who is interested: http://everydayfeminism.com/2012/08/why-men-need-feminism-3/

"All men have been hurt by the traditional gender system.

You may have accepted these realities as normal – just part of being a guy.

posted July 24, 2014 03:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Geeky:
What is with the feminist hate anyway? A real feminist is not a man-hating stereotype. Don't judge the group on a small minority. I am certainly much more than that.

We strive for all gender stereotypes to be put to rest (e.g. women can't be in combat, men can't cry, etc.). These gender "roles" are socially constructed nonsense and they are hurtful to men and woman.

Here is a good article for anyone who is interested: http://everydayfeminism.com/2012/08/why-men-need-feminism-3/

"All men have been hurt by the traditional gender system.

You may have accepted these realities as normal – just part of being a guy.

But feminists say that's not right. That you shouldn't be expected to live up to an unrealistic ideal. That you shouldn't be bullied or ignored for being different. That you shouldn't have to participate in sexist practices. That you deserve much, much more."

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posted July 24, 2014 03:29 PM            

I don't like being told what to do. I like a man that knows what he wants to do. Someone who is confident enough to make a decision.

See the difference?

posted July 24, 2014 03:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Geeky:
All of that said, I like assertive men -- not dominant men.

I don't like being told what to do. I like a man that knows what he wants to do. Someone who is confident enough to make a decision.

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Omg we are so much alike, maaaaan

posted July 24, 2014 07:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
@DF

That's not so bad, I once broke up with a guy because I didn't like the tuft of hair on his lower back...ew! ...but I never even told him why I stopped returning his phone calls. I just ran far, faaaaar away.

That's the kinda behavior aquaguy would disapprove of, I think.

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posted July 24, 2014 08:22 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Bahahahaha
Do you have any Virgo?

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No, but I have a 6H sun and Mercury.

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I try not to be too critical but that sounds weird. Like... the beginnings of a little tail or something. lol

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posted July 24, 2014 08:31 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
That is exactly the kind of behavior I would disapprove of. Sadly most women would do exactly what you did...

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I wasn't a woman then, though, I had just turned 18. And I just associate that behavior with immaturity.

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I take issue with the fact that most women refuse to return the favor. They don't want to lift his spirits when he is down or having an insecure moment, but they think men exist to do those things for them. I honestly think that alot of women forget that men are humans too.

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Maybe a lot of women forget that?

Being a jerk at break-ups doesn't mean you're bad at everything else, relationship-wise. For example I used to vanish without a word, but if you knew what my life was like, you'd know what you wrote above (about not listening or lifting my husband's spirits) doesn't apply to me whatsoever. At all.

posted July 26, 2014 07:16 PM            

The reason I don't agree with that is because the reason many females go for the "bad boys" is that one, women have been raised to think they can turn the beast into a prince with the power of her love (try not to laugh, it's actually quite tragic), and two, many of those "tough guys" show them a softer side so that she sees his vulnerable side (or thinks she does) and believes that therefore she understands him where the rest of the world does not and thus tolerates bad behavior as she "knows" he's only "misunderstood and misplacing anger" (sometimes she really does see a side to him that other guys don't, but other guys have figured this out about women and it's part of their "game" so he's just playing her). Both encourage her to be supporting (even self-sacrificing) of his weaknesses and flaws, even when she shouldn't.

Though just to be clear, I'm not talking about "most women." The kinds AG describe certainly exist, just as many other types exist. Same for guys, some are selfish jerks just as bad, others are not. And everyone is a little selfish at least, it's just some realize you have to give if you want to get (and hopefully feel genuine sympathy for others, and would rather be thought of as a source of happiness than a "cost of doing business").

posted July 26, 2014 07:41 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:...they make the mistake of seeing all members of a gender as interchangeable rather than an individual, both of which begs for otherwise unnecessary drama that can lead to either gender alienated from the other.

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This is what feminism is about. It's not about "girls are more important than boys"... it's about "let's stop all this BS gender garbage and be humans".