posted July 28, 2014 11:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I'm sorry you know I love you, but don't you have a thread out there right now about how all your soulmate a have been horrible to you?
Maybe this has something to do with it? Lol
(Seriously, I hope your joking when you say this about yourself??!!)

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posted July 28, 2014 11:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I've only know 1 gemini Venus, he was the biggest cheater I've ever heard of...I didn't know it was possible to be as big of a cheater as he was, I think he was verging on sex addict behavior just to get to cheat, it was a high for him. Kind of makes me want to puke and I'm a gemini Mars, so I'm supposed to be ok with that kind of stuff, but I'm not! Both me n this guy have libra Pluto's also, his libra Pluto was a 0 degree trine to his his gemini Venus, my Pluto does not aspect my gemini Mars at all.

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Are there other factors in his chart that would add to or amplify this? It wouldn't just be this one aspect, or would it?

posted July 28, 2014 11:09 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
lol of course im joking, im making a parody of the supposed immoral Venus in Gemini
nope the soulmate things was fine, i wasnt sad about it i just made it and I was kind of weirded out

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posted July 28, 2014 11:18 PM            

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Originally posted by margym0o:
Are there other factors in his chart that would add to or amplify this? It wouldn't just be this one aspect, or would it?

The only thing that keeps me from running for the hills is deep down I know my partner is craving stability. He spent many years living very casually in his dealings with women and I think was very lonely. He has matured and I think is past his "prime" so to speak so that type of behaviour isn't top of mind anymore. I do believe it requires him to make a conscious effort to be involved with another person but it does for all of us at the end of the day I think to some degree.

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Oh yes, he has other issues to!! I'm not blaming this aspect only!
Pluto libra@1.53
Venus gem@2.29
Mars pisces@4.22 12th house
Neptune saggy@6.25
Prapius gem@7.21
Pholus pisces@7.40 12th house

Priapus is marked by his oversized, permanent erection, which gave rise to the medical term priapism.

posted July 28, 2014 11:24 PM            

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Originally posted by starrynight:
By the way, how did Pluto in Libra get this reputation? It's such a nice little harmless Pluto.

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posted July 29, 2014 12:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Oh yes, he has other issues to!! I'm not blaming this aspect only!
Pluto libra@1.53
Venus gem@2.29
Mars pisces@4.22 12th house
Neptune saggy@6.25
Prapius gem@7.21
Pholus pisces@7.40 12th house

Priapus is marked by his oversized, permanent erection, which gave rise to the medical term priapism.

Lol, the poor guy had issues!!

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Ohhhhhh... Mars Pisces too has possibility with that also.

posted July 29, 2014 01:56 AM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:

Ohhhhhh... Mars Pisces too has possibility with that also.

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Ya....they are slippery lil fishy's!! Lol
Esp when pisces Mars is in 12th, house of delusions and escapism and on top of that involved in a t-square with Neptune and Venus! Very very harsh placements.
I always have to wonder what did he do in his past lifetime to create a need for this energy constantly pulling him in so many directions.

I know it's weird but I kind of like to deconstruct charts to figure out what could this stress possibly be trying to teach him...if he overcomes it what truly would he be overcoming?

1) His strengths are Pluto trine Venus...0 degree
It's supposed to give depth to Venus but in this instance Venus isn't exalted it's inhibited because gemini doesn't use the heart it uses the head.
2) Venus opposed Neptune, Neptune sextile Pluto...
Venus opposed Nep creates an ability to get lost in love without any real foundation...Pluto intensifies this
3) Mars in pisces in 12th square Venus/Neptune.....this is kind of like overdosing his ability to feel love and sex to such a huge extent your terrified of drowning in the deepest part of the ocean!
Neptune hits his intellectual love style so hard all he can do is run for cover out of fear of dying every time he feels anything at all!

posted July 29, 2014 02:40 AM            

Pisces Sun, Mercury
Gem Moon
Aqua Venus
Gem Mars
Libra Pluto

posted July 29, 2014 02:50 AM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
pls tell us you are joking

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Or just please just tell us more

posted July 29, 2014 03:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I understand I have a gemini Mars and we get a bad rep also as one of the main cheaters of the zodiac, I have to admit I cringe at seeing gemini placements in Mars/Venus or the Moon just because I know they are so intellectual and don't get as attached as I'd like someone to be with me.
Even with my gem Mars, I have libra Pluto conjunct libra Venus, I'm too devoted to love to be a cheater and I want depth depth depth!
But getting me to fall in love? Lol....that's the hard part! Pluto doesn't let just anyone in!

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posted July 29, 2014 08:37 AM            

But Pluto intensifies on a "vertical" level. Pluto in aspect to a personal planet will want DEPTH when it comes to that planet. Venus in Gemini trine Pluto will not be your regular Venus in Gemini, it will give that Venus a more serious touch and dilute its superficiality.

posted July 29, 2014 08:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I know it's weird but I kind of like to deconstruct charts to figure out what could this stress possibly be trying to teach him...if he overcomes it what truly would he be overcoming?

1) His strengths are Pluto trine Venus...0 degree
It's supposed to give depth to Venus but in this instance Venus isn't exalted it's inhibited because gemini doesn't use the heart it uses the head.
2) Venus opposed Neptune, Neptune sextile Pluto...
Venus opposed Nep creates an ability to get lost in love without any real foundation...Pluto intensifies this

What would cause someone to need to learn a lesson that brings such extremes together in such a harsh way?
Hmmmmm......I wonder if he would allow himself to quickly, deeply fall in love ppl and get them to believe he and see how deeply he loved them allowing them to come to trust him and deeply fall for him to....but then he would start to realize he acted and made promises on feelings he either couldn't follow through on or had no right to act on and then would either fall out of love due the stress of the inability to be who he said he was and would carelessly leave the other person crushed and/or ruined.
This life his lesson is to understand logically how it feels to feel so deeply and lose it. He must lose love over n over until he gets feelings are not something to be played with.
Why else would he be required to intellectualize love while having to feel sex on such a deep emotional level and then having Neptune connecting to them also?? It's a spiritual lesson he needs to learn.

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posted July 29, 2014 09:07 AM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Well if someone cheats before the relationship is over, it's obviously also a cry for help/attention/something

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Not really. I mean it could be a reason, but I don't think it's the main reason for cheating.

Let's face it: there are two major reasons for cheating in men: 1. sex 2. power and the lack of it (self-image issues)

Women are "newer" to cheating because women's sexual "liberation" is recent, so they are "newbies" in this respect compared to men's long tradition of cheating and social acceptance of cheating.

Attention! I'm only talking about people prone to cheating. I'm not saying every man or every woman is.

There are differences in the reasons for cheating for men and women, but I think these differences are getting blurrier and blurrier.

Here is an article that hits the nail on the head when it comes to the reasons for cheating for men and women:

Scientific Difference Between Men and Women

There is a key scientific difference between men and women and that is that men can compartmentalize their feelings much better than females can. This means that men can separate their emotions from sex but women usually can’t. Cheating men tend do it solely for the sex! But women will have sex with someone that isn’t their mate for emotional reasons, usually because that person fills a void that their mate isn’t fulfilling.

According to Ruth Houston of the Examiner, these are the top 10 reasons why men and women cheat:

Top 10 Reasons Why Men Cheat:

More sex- the desire for a more active sex life

Sexual variety- the desire for different types of sex or a particular sex act

Opportunistic sex- he’s presented with an opportunity to have sex without getting caught

To satisfy his sexual curiosity about having sex with a particular person

To reaffirm his sexuality

A feeling of entitlement- the desire to feel important or special

Peer pressure

Sexual addiction

Top 10 Reasons Why Women Cheat

To fulfill an unmet need for emotional intimacy or desire for a close emotional bond

Dissatisfaction with her mate

Dissatisfaction with her marriage or relationship

A desire for male attention

Reaffirmation of her desirability as a woman

To re-capture the feelings of romance or passion

A desire to feel “special”

Boredom or loneliness

Feelings of neglect or being taken for granted

Sexual excitement

I'll add to the list for women, more and more, the same reasons men cheat: sexual variety/sexual opportunism.

There is a bias in this list, although the list is still valid. The main scientific community is still an androcracy, so the studies regarding female sexuality are sometimes presented with a bias: because men are not ready to accept women have the same reasons, more or less: such as experiencing a different male/taking advantage of a situation where they can have exciting anonymous sex without getting caught (a truth hard to accept by the male population, which is understandable - males have this instinct to be the only one who reproduces with a certain female, the instinct to ensure that).

So the studies will emphasize women having "emotional" "feminine" reasons because they are such "loving" "sensitive" creatures blah blah lol
and not craving sex and adventure.

But the differences in the list are still valid, they will be for a while more, because women too need time to accept their new "liberation" and not feel guilty ( a "w-hore") for wanting to have sex with a random man for pure sexual reasons.

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posted July 29, 2014 09:22 AM            

Don't believe those

They won't say they cheated because they wanted to experience a certain sexual technique they don't experience with their wife or that they wanted to know how it's like to have sex with an Asian chick or that they met an attractive woman on a business trip who wanted casual sex and they couldn't deny themselves this "pleasure".

And women lie too in those surveys.

posted July 29, 2014 10:12 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
The interesting fact is that in most surveys in which men were asked why they cheated on their spouses, they said it was because they felt "emotionally disconnected" in their relationships.

Don't believe those

They won't say they cheated because they wanted to experience a certain sexual technique they don't experience with their wife or that they wanted to know how it's like to have sex with an Asian chick or that they met an attractive woman on a business trip who wanted casual sex and they couldn't deny themselves this "pleasure".

And women lie too in those surveys.

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posted July 29, 2014 10:24 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I'm not sure Pluto intensifies like that> I think it's Jupiter which intensifies planets on the "horizontal" level so to speak (no pun intended haha) - it inflates, expands the planet. Venus in Gemini in aspect to Jupiter.

But Pluto intensifies on a "vertical" level. Pluto in aspect to a personal planet will want DEPTH when it comes to that planet. Venus in Gemini trine Pluto will not be your regular Venus in Gemini, it will give that Venus a more serious touch and dilute its superficiality.

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What do you make of this mess?

Venus in Gemini
Mars in Libra

Venus Trine Mars 4.27
Venus Trine Pluto 0.25
Venus Trine Jupiter 6.21
Venus Opposition Neptune 0.21

Mars Conjunction Saturn 3.60
Mars Conjunction Pluto 4.02

Jupiter, Mars, Saturn and Pluto in the 7th. Venus in the 3rd.

....is he just a ticking time bomb?

posted July 29, 2014 11:57 AM            

I can't say enough how foolish it is to astrologically stereotype. It's quite similar to stereotyping people because of their race or religion or class or sexual preference. "This person is X, so they must Y."

There are a hundred different types of one group of people. Let's just not forget that. I've never been particularly close to Venus in Gemini people. I've heard stories on this board about some of them cheating. I've heard stories, from Gemini Venuses themselves, about them being very faithful and monogamous.

And guess what? Taurus and Scorpio are supposed to be the serial monogamists. I've known Venus in Taurus and Venus in Scorpio people who've cheated shamelessly on their partners. I'm actually even friends with a Scorpio Venus who has an open relationship with his partner (even though he still gets quite possessive, at the end of the day).

I'll just give some different possibilities about a Gemini Venus person, other than "Are they a cheater or not?"

1. Venus in Gemini wants a relationship that is intellectually stimulating and fun. If they have some strong Water influences, they'll be able to go deeper. But, they'll still like for things to be light, especially in the initial phases.

2. Venus in Gemini has an amazing sense of humor and they're most attracted to people with a quick wit and who can keep up and make them laugh.

3. Venus in Gemini can be "two different people" in a relationship. This can be in a confusing, hot-and-cold manner. But, it might be an ability to play dual roles in a relationship, which can be expressed in lots of different ways. Maybe they go from being masculine and feminine or playful and serious or attached and independent with their partners. They keep their lovers on their toes.

I think every placement should be looked at from different angles. To the OP, don't let placement prejudices stand in your way or discourage you. Take a risk and even if it doesn't work out, blame THE PERSON, not the placement.

posted July 29, 2014 12:11 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
The end was practically a punch line for me!

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That's the only thing you liked in my "presentation"?

posted July 29, 2014 12:12 PM            

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Originally posted by margym0o:

....is he just a ticking time bomb?

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No
Too many planets in the 7th