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Topic: Venus in Gemini trine Pluto in Libra = Cheater?
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margym0o
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From: Ontario, Canada
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posted July 28, 2014 05:32 PM
  
I found an interpretation that suggests the natal Venus trine Pluto aspect with these particular planets intensifies the Gemini aspect of Venus hence making the individual more susceptible to cheating.Thoughts on this? It is so discouraging to read these interpretations when your partner has all of the aforementioned aspects/planet placements! The air signs really can't catch a break. IP: Logged |
mareaire
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From: avalon
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posted July 28, 2014 05:49 PM
while some aspects could make someone more prone to cheating, i find it ultimately depends on the synastry and state of the relationship.i have many 'cheater' aspects, and in the past i have cheated. but i've also had relationships where i didn't, and haven't in my current, and never will. venus in gemini will need a lot of variety and stimulation. without that, a wandering eye may develop. i'd say with the trine to pluto, they'll desire an intensity and passion, that would go beyond the typical gemini description. likewise, it could result in them doing some intense or dramatic or trans-formative, ie cheating, if they aren't being stimulated enough in said relationship. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted July 28, 2014 05:51 PM
That's a possibility. Not an absolute, though.I can't help but cringe when I see Gemini placements in someone I like or who seems to like me. Unfortunately, the majority of people who notice me have something in Gemini because that is my ASC and I tend to attract that type of energy into my life effortlessly. But, back on topic: you seem to be concerned about your partner's loyalty, how come? Is it your own insecurity and suspiciousness, or have you noticed some red flags?
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next to neptune
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posted July 28, 2014 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by margym0o:
I found an interpretation that suggests the natal Venus trine Pluto aspect with these particular planets intensifies the Gemini aspect of Venus hence making the individual more susceptible to cheating.Thoughts on this? It is so discouraging to read these interpretations when your partner has all of the aforementioned aspects/planet placements! The air signs really can't catch a break.
My boyfriend has venus in libra 5th house square uranus in capricorn 7th house. He has a gemini mars square jupiter in leo and pisces moon. Neptune in 7th and square his Sun in libra in 5th house also.
It's the most cheating natal horoscope I've ever seen. But you should meet him in person, he is really seriously not the type who would do that, and I really mean that, cause I am paranoid and jealous from nature, but not with him. I think astrology is wrong on this one, the air types doesn't have to be cheaters, in fact I don't think many guys actually cheat, they always have a reason that is deeper than just that.. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted July 28, 2014 05:58 PM
No. I have that trine, and it isn't true for me.IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted July 28, 2014 06:03 PM
Men are a different story.
(Sorry, couldn't help myself. *goes back under her rock*)
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posted July 28, 2014 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Men are a different story.
(Sorry, couldn't help myself. *goes back under her rock*)
Noooo, the main reason why men cheat is that they want more intimacy in the relationship… they actually want their partner to find out they cheated, because their monkey brain thinks it will solve the problem then…. I seriously read this in some article, and I believe in it… men are more often only physically cheating, while women on the other hand is psychically cheating (which I think is actually worse) *tries to sound very convincing* IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen
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From: In my 1st house Uranus and Neptune
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posted July 28, 2014 06:14 PM
lol I have Venus in Gemini 5th house square Neptune, Jupiter, Moon, Sun, Ascendant and I love orgies, I'm a pervert, I cheat on all my 10 boyfriends, and I am the queen of debauchery and chaos.   IP: Logged |
next to neptune
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From: The Moon
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posted July 28, 2014 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
lol I have Venus in Gemini 5th house square Neptune, Jupiter, Moon, Sun, Ascendant and I love orgies, I'm a pervert, I cheat on all my 10 boyfriends, and I am the queen of debauchery and chaos.
pls tell us you are joking  IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19
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posted July 28, 2014 06:16 PM
Not too fond of this placement in anyone but it works for some obviously. I think if they are unhappy/unsatisfied that they will turn to cheating before they end the relationship. As far as men vs women. Idk...
Cheating is cheating to me and I don't tolerate any form of it. IP: Logged |
next to neptune
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posted July 28, 2014 06:18 PM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Not too fond of this placement in anyone but it works for some obviously. I think if they are unhappy/unsatisfied that they will turn to cheating before they end the relationship. As far as men vs women. Idk...
Cheating is cheating to me and I don't tolerate any form of it.
Well if someone cheats before the relationship is over, it's obviously also a cry for help/attention/something IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen
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posted July 28, 2014 06:18 PM
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
pls tell us you are joking
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teasel
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posted July 28, 2014 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
lol I have Venus in Gemini 5th house square Neptune, Jupiter, Moon, Sun, Ascendant and I love orgies, I'm a pervert, I cheat on all my 10 boyfriends, and I am the queen of debauchery and chaos.
Me, too, and that was just one weekend! Seriously, the way Venus in Gemini is lambasted - I don't get it.
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teasel
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posted July 28, 2014 06:25 PM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Men are a different story.
(Sorry, couldn't help myself. *goes back under her rock*)
I trust that you have a reason to think the way you do. There are many who will just believe what they read. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted July 28, 2014 06:27 PM
By the way, Doux: I've deactivated my FB account - I haven't deleted you, just in case you notice me gone.IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted July 28, 2014 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Well if someone cheats before the relationship is over, it's obviously also a cry for help/attention/something
I don't necessarily disagree with you on that. I just don't see that as any kind of solution.
When it's happened to me they were promptly exited from my life. I never have cheated and I expect the same. Find another solution.
It must be that Leo loyalty and betrayal thing. lol
I KNOW there are ways to get someone's attention other than that and I simply have no tolerance for it. I know I'm harsh. I know this. It's just me. *shrug* You're on my side of the fence or not. If you hop to the other side, don't come back.
Love can remain but trust is broken.
I'm minority but I'm just a fiercely loyal person and I expect it. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted July 28, 2014 06:31 PM
Simply state that you might consider it to be over and may leave, that you are unhappy with the way things are and want change, love them, but need that change. (and be prepared to go if needed). I guarantee that will get their attention and if they are willing to let you go.... Go. Single never killed anyone and it can be a very good, healthy time. Anyway, that's more of a sweet peas thing - sorry. Back to Venus Gemini / Pluto IP: Logged |
next to neptune
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Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 28, 2014 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I don't necessarily disagree with you on that. I just don't see that as any kind of solution.
When it's happened to me they were promptly exited from my life. I never have cheated and I expect the same. Find another solution.
It must be that Leo loyalty and betrayal thing. lol
I KNOW there are ways to get someone's attention other than that and I simply have no tolerance for it. I know I'm harsh. I know this. It's just me. *shrug* You're on my side of the fence or not. If you hop to the other side, don't come back.
Love can remain but trust is broken.
I'm minority but I'm just a fiercely loyal person and I expect it.
I don't think its a great solution either, I think the person who cheats secretly wants to end the relationship in some way… but I also think they don't think so much in general lol… But hey gonna throw this out (sorry to the gemini people) but Gemini isn't known for being the most loyal sign either… sorryyyyy (and I know there is more to it than sun signs, but I mean prominent gemini energy especially on venus, if it squares something not so good (as for an example some outer planet in 7th house?) IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted July 28, 2014 07:34 PM
teasel, Alright, thanks for letting me know. You know where to find me if you need me. 
-Hell no, DF, you're not harsh. I agree with you completely. I think a lot of people don't realize how damaging cheating actually is. *back on topic* IP: Logged |
margym0o
Knowflake Posts: 79
From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jul 2014
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posted July 28, 2014 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
That's a possibility. Not an absolute, though.I can't help but cringe when I see Gemini placements in someone I like or who seems to like me. Unfortunately, the majority of people who notice me have something in Gemini because that is my ASC and I tend to attract that type of energy into my life effortlessly. But, back on topic: you seem to be concerned about your partner's loyalty, how come? Is it your own insecurity and suspiciousness, or have you noticed some red flags?
Let me put it this way. Astrology is a blessing and a curse. Only when I started dating this man 6 months ago did I really delve into this because as a Gemini, I wanted to know what it would be like dating a Cancer man. Then comes the avalanche of charts/aspects/planets/synastry which is enough to make your head spin and now I'm convinced that based on his chart, I will get cheated on someday. Self-fulfilling prophecy? Add to that my moon in Scorpio, and I have Venus square Pluto...so you already know I'm obsessed with these grim thoughts. He has done nothing to make me think he would do anything, he is just a very charming man. One of those that naturally exudes that "bad boy" essence and ladies love him. My Gemini Sun is my only air placement and while I did cheat on my first boyfriend in my early 20's (a definite cry for help) I have grown immensely and now find cheating disgusting. I blame my immaturity back then more than anything. I just couldn't live with myself keeping that kind of secret now. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted July 28, 2014 08:05 PM
Ah, Scorpio and Pluto. I can understand your concerns.The fact that your Sun is in Gemini is a big plus because that would suggest he naturally finds you quite attractive, since his Venus is in Gemini. Do you know if they are conjunct? That'd be even better. I don't think you can know for sure whether someone will cheat on you or not. You simply either take the risk of opening your heart and possibly get hurt or you don't. That's just how it goes... I know it's not really reassuring, but if you can relax and just let yourself experience that relationship with as little torment as possible, all the better. But hey, I'm not an expert. I know how hard it is to trust someone when it comes to stuff like this. I hope you find peace of mind. IP: Logged |
starrynight
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posted July 28, 2014 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Well if someone cheats before the relationship is over, it's obviously also a cry for help/attention/something
Dunno, I think if one is explicitly told "cheating means your butt flies out my door 1 minute later" and then they cheat... obviously they either don't care or they want to end the relationship but don't have the guts to say it. That said... I'm a Gemini Moon (11th house) with Moon-Venus trine and Moon opposite Uranus. Pluto in Libra, too. I'm fickle and unpredictable. I don't cheat, but I can end a relationship out of the blue or flirt with several guys at once. Unless there is a deep, consuming, intense passion, I can be like a kid in a candy store. Frankly, I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with myself. xD IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted July 28, 2014 10:50 PM
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
lol I have Venus in Gemini 5th house square Neptune, Jupiter, Moon, Sun, Ascendant and I love orgies, I'm a pervert, I cheat on all my 10 boyfriends, and I am the queen of debauchery and chaos.
I'm sorry you know I love you, but don't you have a thread out there right now about how all your soulmate a have been horrible to you?
Maybe this has something to do with it? Lol
(Seriously, I hope your joking when you say this about yourself??!!) IP: Logged |
margym0o
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From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jul 2014
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posted July 28, 2014 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Ah, Scorpio and Pluto. I can understand your concerns.The fact that your Sun is in Gemini is a big plus because that would suggest he naturally finds you quite attractive, since his Venus is in Gemini. Do you know if they are conjunct? That'd be even better. I don't think you can know for sure whether someone will cheat on you or not. You simply either take the risk of opening your heart and possibly get hurt or you don't. That's just how it goes... I know it's not really reassuring, but if you can relax and just let yourself experience that relationship with as little torment as possible, all the better. But hey, I'm not an expert. I know how hard it is to trust someone when it comes to stuff like this. I hope you find peace of mind.
We actually do have the Sun conjunct Venus aspect  And Moon trine Sun so thankfully my Scorponic energies aren't completely wasted. I think that's one of life's biggest lessons - learning to just let go and trust that everything will work out as it should - thank you. Of course that's my fateful Sun trine Pluto talking 
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Gabby
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posted July 28, 2014 11:00 PM
I've only know 1 gemini Venus, he was the biggest cheater I've ever heard of...I didn't know it was possible to be as big of a cheater as he was, I think he was verging on sex addict behavior just to get to cheat, it was a high for him.
His behavior kind of made me want to puke and I'm a gemini Mars, so I'm supposed to be ok with that kind of stuff. But I'm not!
Both me n this guy have libra Pluto's also, his libra Pluto was a 0 degree trine to his his gemini Venus, my libra Pluto does not aspect my gemini Mars at all but it is conjunct my libra Venus so Pluto makes me much more devoted to love and his Pluto makes him much more devoted to experiencing the "experience of love" without feeling it beyond an intellectual acknowledgement.IP: Logged |
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