posted August 06, 2014 04:32 PM            

I know a guy who's a very charming, flirty, a smooth talker, sensitive, openly emotional. At the same time, he loves outdoors, big tough cars, sports like snowboarding and surfing, and is very brave and holds himself with dignity.

He loves wearing gold jewelry and spends a lot of money on it and his clothes and shoes. On the other hand, he isn't into home decor or fashion (he dresses casually, even if it's all designer stuff), and he isn't likely to enjoy a fine evening in an opera theater or something like that.

He's very romantic and emotional in a relationship, he'll call his girl princess or queen, bring her flowers, hold her hand and kiss her when around other people, and in bed he's romantic and very cuddly too, though pretty active and energetic. He gets upset if the girl isn't into the lovey-dovey stuff.

posted August 06, 2014 05:00 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
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What does it mean to "hold himself with dignity"? As opposed to women holding herself with dignity?

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posted August 15, 2014 06:56 AM              

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Originally posted by margym0o:
This man with Mars in Libra in the 7th house...
Square Sun (Cancer)
Trine Venus (Gemini)
Conjunct Saturn
Conjunct Pluto

...is probably the most feminine MAN I have ever come across and I say it like that because he is quite the puzzle.

He is a smooth talker and charming with the ladies, loves fashion and home decor and is OCD about cleanliness, is not too fond of the outdoors, or camping, or really anything that involves getting his hands dirty aka any kind of "manly" activity. He also hates bugs and is weary of non-pet type animals. Loves smoking, a good cigar and a little brandy after a nice meal.

Some typical traits of a classy Libra man, right? Except I think he tries to run from this image and pretend it isn't so. I feel this is a sensitive topic for him and he gets defensive when you question or poke at his tendencies. He will try to convey a "macho" attitude which is obvious to others.

Most strangely, he is one of the most sexually aggressive people I've ever met. He is borderline addicted to pornography, particularly the...let's just say, "aggressive to women" type of pornography and loves to act this out in real life, complete with "dirty talk."

Would this be characteristic of a weak/afflicted Mars? Or something else in his natal?

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IMO, there's no such thing as "detriments". An outdated concept. Perhaps one can still look at the domicile of a planet, when it is in its own sign, but detriment? Mars will be different in every sign, it will have certain characteristics, but they can't be categorized as "good" or "bad". When you have a Mars in Libra, think of it as a Mars conjunct Venus (the Libra Venus, a sociable, relational Venus). This Mars, either belonging to a man or a woman, will have certain characteristics: turned on by beauty, (because Mars somehow rules the body) graceful, elegant and lover of grace and elegance, diplomatic, fighter for justice and equality, indecisive (because of the Libra symbol), great mediator, political/manipulative/strategic abilities, loves seduction, conquest and romance (another Mars/Venus trait), preoccupied with equality and fairness in relationships.

Mars in Libra people are also known for giving up all diplomacy and becoming ruthless and relentless when they have a cause related to (personal or collective) truth and justice. Because Libra in general and the 7th house is the house of your best friend/your worst enemy, so Mars in Libra can be a great friend, but it can be a very tough Mars when switching to the enemy side.

Many famous pacifists and lifelong fighters for justice and freedom have this placement, such as Nelson Mandela and Dalai Lama, John Lennon, Winston Churchill, Abraham Lincoln and the current Pope, Francis.

Hardly a weak Mars (actually, no Mars is weak). Mars in Libra replaces the senseless violence and the upfront bravery of Mars in Aries with diplomacy and perseverance, which makes it even stronger. There is need for the frontline Aries Mars, but also for the politician, the strategist behind the scene, the Libra Mars.

"Speak softly and carry a big stick" would be the perfect motto for Mars in Libra, although no Libra placements for Roosevelt, but a perfect semisextile between Mars and Venus.

Every Mars in every sign has a degree of violence because Mars is the planet of violence.

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posted August 15, 2014 08:58 AM            

My ex has Mars in Libra. He could be like that from time to time, particularly when it came to fashion. He was quite masculine the rest of the time, though (loved camping, sports, didn't mind getting dirty). HIs Mars is conjunct Saturn and Pluto, though, and square his Venus.

On another note, I find Mars in LIbra amazing in bed! They like keeping things equal in bed, which I love. They really aim to please their partner, and are considerate of their partner's needs. My fave Mars placement by far.

posted August 15, 2014 09:50 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
IMO, there's no such thing as "detriments". An outdated concept. Perhaps one can still look at the domicile of a planet, when it is in its own sign, but detriment? Mars will be different in every sign, it will have certain characteristics, but they can't be categorized as "good" or "bad". When you have a Mars in Libra, think of it as a Mars conjunct Venus (the Libra Venus, a sociable, relational Venus). This Mars, either belonging to a man or a woman, will have certain characteristics: turned on by beauty, (because Mars somehow rules the body) graceful, elegant and lover of grace and elegance, diplomatic, fighter for justice and equality, indecisive (because of the Libra symbol), great mediator, political/manipulative/strategic abilities, loves seduction, conquest and romance (another Mars/Venus trait), preoccupied with equality and fairness in relationships.

Mars in Libra people are also known for giving up all diplomacy and becoming ruthless and relentless when they have a cause related to (personal or collective) truth and justice. Because Libra in general and the 7th house is the house of your best friend/your worst enemy, so Mars in Libra can be a great friend, but it can be a very tough Mars when switching to the enemy side.

Many famous pacifists and lifelong fighters for justice and freedom have this placement, such as Nelson Mandela and Dalai Lama, John Lennon, Winston Churchill, Abraham Lincoln and the current Pope, Francis.

Hardly a weak Mars (actually, no Mars is weak). Mars in Libra replaces the senseless violence and the upfront bravery of Mars in Aries with diplomacy and perseverance, which makes it even stronger. There is need for the frontline Aries Mars, but also for the politician, the strategist behind the scene, the Libra Mars.

"Speak softly and carry a big stick" would be the perfect motto for Mars in Libra, although no Libra placements for Roosevelt, but a perfect semisextile between Mars and Venus.

Every Mars in every sign has a degree of violence because Mars is the planet of violence.

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Well said! I can definitely see a lot of those qualities in him. He is very diplomatic most of the time, choosing to remain neutral or balance both sides of an argument equally so it is fair to everyone, which is a good quality to have. The only time it gets a little annoying is when he purposely fights for the other side of a heated topic, when it's not necessary! It's almost like their need to be fair and balanced creates an argument. D'oh.

posted August 15, 2014 09:51 AM            

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Originally posted by ariestaurus:
I find airy men, in general, quite feminine. Particularly men with Libra and Gemini influences.

My ex has Mars in Libra. He could be like that from time to time, particularly when it came to fashion. He was quite masculine the rest of the time, though (loved camping, sports, didn't mind getting dirty). HIs Mars is conjunct Saturn and Pluto, though, and square his Venus.

On another note, I find Mars in LIbra amazing in bed! They like keeping things equal in bed, which I love. They really aim to please their partner, and are considerate of their partner's needs. My fave Mars placement by far.

Anyway, what is the rest of his chart? He has Libra Mars in his 7th, so he's an Aries Asc, or is he a Pisces Ascendant?

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Aries ascendant. Here is the rest of his chart. LOTS of fun stuff going on here...

posted August 16, 2014 12:25 AM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
We got along but we never slept together because he didn't have enough power to get me off in that way. Yes way too feminine and not manly enough

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Could you define "manly" please?

I just read in another thread where you sounded angry at hunting animals for food and clothes and yet hunting for that strikes me as quintessentially male. (Heck, I take pride in my cooking skills but stayed away from grilling BBQ as I fear the men beating their chests if they saw a woman do it, and one guy even said he liked that about me. ) I would guess you buy into that archetype as well given that you seem to be agreeing with the OP about a man being feminine for not liking any outdoor activity that would get him dirty or sweaty or even expose him to wildlife.

posted August 18, 2014 01:53 AM            

Offhand I can't think of any feminine cancer or libra men (unless you define "feminine" as "anything not a chest beating caveman and/or alpha male"). One Libra man with Pisces moon (can't recall his mars) scared me as he initially came off as so masculine (like a biker who lifted weights regularly), though he was sweet (but you wouldn't know it until you got to know him, some women who go for the rough bikers were disappointed to find he didn't smack them around).

It was kinda funny, I'd see little kids duck from him (can't blame 'em since I had the same reaction) and he told me that once he was trying to alert an old lady that her seat belt was hanging outside her door (which would mean a ticket) but he gave up as the old lady stared at him in terror while he gently rapped on her car window (broad daylight), and too senile to figure out what he meant by pointing at the seat belt (when she wouldn't even crack the window). Though given he respected women and expected them to be grown ups (not grown up princesses, mind you, grown ups as in not seeking to be dominated by an "alpha") I suppose some would think he wasn't manly enough, but as for me I'm reminded of him when I see Whistler (played by Kris Kristofferson) in the Blade movies (rough looking & sounding, sometimes intense and passionate who wouldn't flinch from a fight, but sweet beneath his gruff exterior).

posted November 08, 2023 01:17 PM            

One of them is my beautician

IMO Men with this placement have a softer, feminine side and I don't see that in men with Mars in Pisces or Cancer.

Things I saw people with Mars in Libra like or do:

- love pastel (pink) colors
- lovers of long foreplay (but not so much the act itself)
- peacemakers who prefer to avoid conflicts
- the men: sweet boys, dandy's, pretty boys
- The are very visual and the people who would compliment your new hairstyle, style or nails.
- can be into roleplay
- super partner-orientated and negatively co-dependency issues (You know these couples who have the same friends, the same hobbies, and who even dress similarly? Bingo!).
- love holding hands and small romantic gestures
- touchy
- wear rose-colored glasses and idealize "the other" (the partner)
- they secretly want the fairytale romance and can develop unhealthy, fixed ideas about how or what the ideal relationship should look like
- "Anything that seems tawdry or harsh to them is banished from the scene. It may seem that they are putting the person they love on a pedestal, that they are making sex into a highly mannered ritual in which consummation matters very little; but always remember that it is the ideal of the relationship and the “other” that this Lover is really worshipping, not the person who happens to be standing on the pedestal".(Quote from Good Golly Astrology)
- "The intellectual distance and lack of physical urgency with which these Lovers view sex often means they can take particular pleasure in the rituals of courtship and the day-to-day process of maintaining a sexual relationship. In many cases they seem to enjoy the actual sex act less than they do talking about it the next day. People who rush passionately into sex or those who appreciate sex primarily as a source of physical joy seem to the Mars in Libra Lover to be missing half the fun" (Quote from Good Golly Astrology)

posted November 08, 2023 01:29 PM            

At one point my Aries Mars would probably say to the Libra Mars: "Go for it, sweetheart...NOW"

posted November 15, 2023 08:51 PM            

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Libra isn't a feminine sign. Don't know why people assume that. Libra is just as masculine as Aries

And I wouldn't say so. I know Mars in Libra individuals who are as tough as steel. Mars Falls when it's in libra. Sometimes that means extra power

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posted November 28, 2023 02:11 PM            

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This is [b]not true at all there is a BIG difference between Libra and Aries.[/B]

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Agree. This is true. People confuse masculinity with achievement or toughness. But Mars is about the style of how you do something, how you walk into a room, how you have sex, how you fight etc.

Libra loves partnerships. Aries love independence. Even in relationships, Aries is careful to remain an individual. It is always said that Aries is quick to approach others but that's not true at all. They are more reserved because they don't want to give up their freedom.

Libra is all about cooperation ("we"). Aries is all about individualism ("I"). We find competition stimulating

Libra is sensitive. Aries is very strong-willed and brave.

Libra appreciates harmony and peace. Aries does not avoid arguments and test partners through conflict!

The archetype of Mars in Libra is perhaps an artist or a charming and polite Dandy. Aries is a hunter! We will go after someone who is difficult to reach, but not in a heavy-handed way, but with a lot of ingenuity.

Mars in Libra loves foreplay and is all about the courtship. Mars in Aries loves spontaneity and is about the act itself.

Libra is intellectual and needs intellectual agreement Fairness and equality are the basis of a relationship for Libra. Libra would love to become a power couple with their partner.

Aries wants to see that someone has their own opinion, doesn't always agree with them, and can stand behind their opinion. Aries have the idea of being something very special themselves and would therefore also like to have a special partner who gives them space so that it remains exciting, who always brings passion back to life. However, they also allow their partner to be independent.

posted November 28, 2023 03:19 PM            

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Aries wants to make rules and lead, but doesn’t want to follow those.

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Capricorn is about rules, Aries is not! The constellation Aries resembles a reclining ram that turns its head backward. The ram sits there majestically and watches to see whether the other eleven signs of the zodiac will follow him. And that's exactly how Aries and Mars in Aries is. They're natural leaders and radiate their claim to leadership. Aries has the task of taking responsibility on this planet, of leading, guiding, and making decisions. It is usually the case that when Aries leads, things are actually moved forward. Aries are active. They are always in action, restless, combative, but also competitive, but not in a malicious sense. Aries and Mars in Aries have the idea that they can organize their own lives and are completely independent. We don't like to be put in situations where we feel completely helpless and can't do anything about it. Therefore Aries has to learn to let himself be led by fate. Otherwise, we may end up running and working ourselves into the ground, having to start all over again and take detours.

posted November 28, 2023 03:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
Libra is not about commitment as much as Aries is not about masculinity. I saw Aries Mars might be easier to commit, but not for long.
It’s Air Mars. It doesn’t go for a final result and could be flaky. It needs partnering, but not rules and responsibilities.
Aries wants to make rules and lead, but doesn’t want to follow those.

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You are right about Libra and Libra Mars. A Libra senses, feels and develops through encounters with others. They remind me a bit of the fairytale of Snow White with her "Mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the fairest of them all?" Libra and Mars in Libra need admiration and are very keen on affirmation. When they say to the other person: "Oh, you are so wonderful, darling!", they do so in the hope that the other person will return the compliment ;-) The biggest conflict in their relationships is perhaps projection, i.e. the other person projects their own needs onto Libra, so Libra becomes a projection screen for their demands without realizing that they are missing out. Like no other sign, Libra needs to be with good people who treat them well.

posted November 30, 2023 02:02 PM            

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Capricorn is about rules, Aries is not! The constellation Aries resembles a reclining ram that turns its head backward. The ram sits there majestically and watches to see whether the other eleven signs of the zodiac will follow him. And that's exactly how Aries and Mars in Aries is. They're natural leaders and radiate their claim to leadership. Aries has the task of taking responsibility on this planet, of leading, guiding, and making decisions. It is usually the case that when Aries leads, things are actually moved forward. Aries are active. They are always in action, restless, combative, but also competitive, but not in a malicious sense. Aries and Mars in Aries have the idea that they can organize their own lives and are completely independent. We don't like to be put in situations where we feel completely helpless and can't do anything about it. Therefore Aries has to learn to let himself be led by fate. Otherwise, we may end up running and working ourselves into the ground, having to start all over again and take detours.

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posted December 05, 2023 12:59 PM            

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by rockwell:
[b] Capricorn is about rules, Aries is not! The constellation Aries resembles a reclining ram that turns its head backward. The ram sits there majestically and watches to see whether the other eleven signs of the zodiac will follow him. And that's exactly how Aries and Mars in Aries is. They're natural leaders and radiate their claim to leadership. Aries has the task of taking responsibility on this planet, of leading, guiding, and making decisions. It is usually the case that when Aries leads, things are actually moved forward. Aries are active. They are always in action, restless, combative, but also competitive, but not in a malicious sense. Aries and Mars in Aries have the idea that they can organize their own lives and are completely independent. We don't like to be put in situations where we feel completely helpless and can't do anything about it. Therefore Aries has to learn to let himself be led by fate. Otherwise, we may end up running and working ourselves into the ground, having to start all over again and take detours.

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Usually, if I hear 5 calls in a row and it’s often someone with Aries placements. (Especially, mars) And I usually know there’s no emergency at all somebody just cannot wait 2 minutes between calls lol[/B][/QUOTE]

Very true especially the thing about the telephone calls I'm guilty of this It's because we like to get things done and have to learn more patience. Aries and Mars in Aries are also the ones who cross the road first when the lights turn green. The ones who go straight to the desired products without detours when shopping.