posted September 05, 2014 07:30 PM            

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Originally posted by MiaPluto:
There is no greater knowledge of truth than being a witness of the environment around you.

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posted September 05, 2014 07:33 PM              

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Originally posted by soren:
well people probly wont be twerking for the next 5000 years. its probably just something our generation is wanting to do. why? maybe because its so different from how we've been in the past (super proper)

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But I'm sure there would be worse things happening.

And btw, the reason people expose absurd sexual taboos these days is because they are sexually frustrated and need attention.

Otherwise they wouldn't need to do that and they would be happy enough doing it privately.

posted September 05, 2014 07:39 PM              

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Originally posted by freedomlover:
Yeah, me also did not addapt to this sh.itfu.ck. I see 2 ways of getting out, or going to the land and aim autosufficiency, or turning into a 21 sentury nomad
But I would not go back to the 80
Keroak (not know the spelling) wrode his book befor the 80, this **** is going on ofr a while now...

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posted September 05, 2014 07:48 PM              

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
We try to live in the present. I can't weep for every era I've left behind, Mia. I'd never get anything done.

I'm sorry, but it's called maturity, sweetheart. It'll get better. Easier. Some days will still be difficult, but it's what we've got. Try not to lapse into escapism when the present's too rough. Focus on what you can remedy now. Learn to live in the now -- it's all that truly exists.

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There's nothing wrong with admiring the past, and it's not immature.

Those who ignore their feelings and sentiments for something are worse because ignoring means you're not facing your own emotions and that can be bad.

posted September 05, 2014 07:50 PM              

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Fair enough (though technically you weren't a witness of the 80s). But we're witnesses, too. I was around in 2007 just as I am today and experienced enough to not agree with your assessment.

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Idk where you live but in Montreal the texting in 2007 wasn't as much as now.

posted September 05, 2014 07:56 PM              

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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
For a Leo I imagine it is

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What if you had kids that were like 7 today and she was a girl obsessed with makeup and watched jersey shore and watched music videos of those like Nicki minaj?

I feel so bad for kids these days because they have no childhood.

posted September 05, 2014 10:06 PM            

I grew up during the 80s and I wanted to be in the 60s. The 80s were SO superficial. Everyone was SO greedy. People were just as materialistic as today. You had to wear just the right cloths to be accept, remember Jordache and Gloria Vanderbilt? I look back and can't believe I ever got my hair that big! It's ridiculous. Why would anyone want to wear their hair like that? If I posted my picture from back then, you'd laugh at it.

Loyal friends? People weren't any different back then. If I had a dollar for every 'friend' that tried to get with my boyfriend, lol!

Good music video's? What ones are you watching? What comes to my mind is Tawny Kitaen sliding around on a Trans Am. I lived for music video's back then but I cringe now when I think of them.

Madonna was the master of manipulating the media back then. I'm sure Kim Kardashian learned everything she knows from her.

Many more people are enlightened today than back then. You and many other young people on LL are living proof of that. It will only continue to grow, too. There are lots of stupid people on YouTube but also lots of great people working to enlighten others that otherwise we wouldn't have access to. You mentioned Osho, for example. Same with FB. Don't let these things get you down. Keep your vibration high so you will attract like people to you!

posted September 05, 2014 10:24 PM            

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Originally posted by babybull82:
Blah I hate the 80's, I'm all about the 90's! Well specifically the music lol

Edit: let me be more specific, any 90s music before 96

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+1 Me too!! 90's are where its at.

MiaPluto, you keep saying that people are 'rationalizing' it too much? So how can you formulate an argument/opinion without adding rationality to explain and get your point across?

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Things were so much better when Molly Ringwald and Def Leppard ruled the World! While I can relate to what you have said about 2014, you are completely romanticizing the 80's

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KarmicMoon, Well said! Every era has its good parts and bad parts!

SweetScorpion- excellent post, just too long to quote.

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We try to live in the present. I can't weep for every era I've left behind, Mia. I'd never get anything done.

I'm sorry, but it's called maturity, sweetheart. It'll get better. Easier. Some days will still be difficult, but it's what we've got. Try not to lapse into escapism when the present's too rough. Focus on what you can remedy now. Learn to live in the now -- it's all that truly exists.

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Aubyanne, as a Pisces Moon I cosign this! Escapism is a bad trait Pisces influence can have. Yeah the world sucks at times, but there are some great things about it it too. Negatively only manifests more negativity, its the attitude that needs a change.

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There is no greater knowledge of truth than being a witness of the environment around you.

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Not really...perceptions are everything. If you construct a false reality to escape your environment, you may not see it clearly or correctly. For example: You see, I'm the kind of person who looks at the world with only what I can see.->not looking at the whole picture.

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Inever cared, and will never care about political issues in the world as long as they're not affecting me directly. Sorry.

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You should be- politics directly impacts your life: it shapes your environment as well.

posted September 06, 2014 12:25 AM            

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Originally posted by MiaPluto:
Again. People keep writing what happened during the 80's which I don't care about at all, and which wasn't my point.

Bad things happen all the time. They are happening today too. It's not like it's much better.

To be honest with you, the 'Aquarius age' is not something I really believe in, because it's a theory. Some say it's there, others say it's not there yet.

But idgaf.

Because even if the age of Aquarius exists, I hate it.

I don't think it's a progress or for the greater good. It sucks balls. It's the opposite of good.

Can't you see how the population is growing so much, people are becoming so dumb, and so dependent on technology.

The technology is like poison and a worse drug than any drugs taken in human history because it's an addiction and everyone has it (almost).

Did you not read where I stated how there is no human interaction, and how streets are barren these days in the middle of the summer. How shallow people are?

Seriously.

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I'm sensing that you feel like I'm trying to attack you or argue with you when that wasn't my intention before and it isn't my intention now. You're strongly opinionated and you seem like you're becoming angry because I'm challenging some (keyword, some) of your thoughts. But that doesn't mean I'm trying to demean or invalidate you. People can agree to disagree and have intelligent conversations about differences in opinion without hostility. At the end of the day, it's a maturity issue.

To me, it's disturbing that you don't seem to really care about social crises that left a major impact on a decade [and those beyond it] in our society, even if they weren't of interest in your original post. Speaking of the shallowness you dislike, writing off national and transnational tragedies by saying that 'bad things happen all the time' and that our current era isn't any better is actually very shallow, not to mention insensitive. Yes, the world has sociopolitical problems today [as the world always will], but that doesn't minimize the horrible tragedies in the world that marked your favorite decade.

I'm only trying to point out some of the positives of our current age to balance out the negatives (and yes, I read your post clearly before writing my reply). Of course I acknowledge that technology has led to some people being obsessed with virtual worlds. But to call people 'dumb' by being overly into technology or posting videos you don't like is inappropriate. What one person defines as 'dumb' is highly subjective, but I don't think it's dumb for people to be overly into technology to the point of addiction and/or socialization issues - it speaks of greater psychological problems. So yes, people post stupid things on the internet and some people prefer being online alone vs. socializing, but I'm not sure why it's warranting this much hate from you. It's a pretty trivial issue to be concerned about considering everything else that's going on in our age.

Finally, I have to mention that it's just a little dramatic to say the streets are 'barren' in the summertime because of technology, and that technology is a 'poison' when it's certainly done its fair share of good. Again, this is a maturity issue. And even in the suburbs, I saw plenty of social interaction throughout my community year-round, especially in the summertime. It might be a stretch, but some people probably choose to do things indoors during summertime because of rising temperatures.

posted September 06, 2014 12:32 AM            

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
SweetScorpion- excellent post, just too long to quote.

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Thanks. I'm an international studies major, so national and transnational issues have deeply affected me and fascinate me. The 80s is a particularly important focus for me and how the decade's events [and its major crises] have impacted the world today. As an active member of the LGBT community, nothing hits me harder than stories/movies about the HIV/AIDS crisis and how it impacted our country and social problems/stereotypes that have persisted because of this event.

posted September 06, 2014 01:16 AM            

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Originally posted by MiaPluto:
But I'm sure there would be worse things happening.

And btw, the reason people expose absurd sexual taboos these days is because they are sexually frustrated and need attention.

Otherwise they wouldn't need to do that and they would be happy enough doing it privately.

Because people are anti social, they are more sexually frustrated and because of so much indulgence in the media.

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posted September 06, 2014 01:17 AM            

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Originally posted by MiaPluto:
There's nothing wrong with admiring the past, and it's not immature.

Those who ignore their feelings and sentiments for something are worse because ignoring means you're not facing your own emotions and that can be bad.

At least I am honest with myself and feel compassion and I really miss the past.

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posted September 06, 2014 01:18 AM            

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Originally posted by KarmicMoon:
... While I can relate to what you have said about 2014, you are completely romanticizing the 80's.

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posted September 06, 2014 09:07 AM            

In her chart, she has a stellium in Aquarius, including Sun. That can make one a little eccentric. Cancer rising, Cancers love history and are very nostalgic "for the good ol' days". And she is completely Earth void, totally ungrounded. We all think she must have had a past life then and is somehow stuck in the past.

Mia, do you see the irony of complaining about technology and social interaction while we are all talking anonymously through technology? It's about balance. Sometimes I despise it too, but we can't go backwards. You know in the 80's, our phones were actually attached to the WALL! A lot of us only had one phone in the house and had to talk in the kitchen with our parents listening! Can you imagine having to cast a chart by hand? It's so much easier to learn astrology with the help of the internet. So there have been improvements!
Just kidding!

posted September 06, 2014 10:47 AM            

However, I grew up in a household with one of the first computers in my town. My mum, who is held back in some respects due to the generation she grew up in, taught herself how to use the computer, because she still had the forward thinking to see the inherent potential in learning how to use this new technology and thus exposing her children to it. Modern technology is an inevitability, and I think that inevitabilities are something that us younger people struggle to deal with at times (one of the archetypes of Saturn) until they get a little older, learn to adapt to the world and gain a greater sense of maturity because of it.

And as with the inevitability of modern technology, is the inevitability of meeting and being surrounded by people who are different than ourselves, possess different motives, intentions, yearnings, ways of thinking and insights. We're all individuals on our own individual paths to INEVITABLE enlightenment. You may see humans around you that you may deem hopeless or useless to society and the world at large, but actually, everybody contributes to world somehow, no matter how small or insignificant that contribution may be. Being compassionate is about being able to have the strength within yourself to see that and appreciate it.

posted September 06, 2014 01:52 PM            

Ok, I'm 15 and I can't stand it too and I might be a bit too judgemental of people who appear to base their lives around these trends but everyone has their own story, own walk of life.

At the end of the day, we are all people, we all have a common goal and that is to be happy. We all have different pains, different needs and emotional desires and it is up to us how we fill up these things. We deal with our pain in different ways. Some choose to ignore it, some choose to confront it, there are so many different ways of doing things. Your way of dealing with issues is different from mine for instance.

Society always changes; habits change, everything changes and that's what always has fascinated me about life. Personally; I love it when societal habits change. It interests me. I have Moon opposite Uranus and square Saturn. Saturn also aspects Uranus by square. Things like World War 2 have always interested me, Hitler, how people can come together to realise a common goal and try and reach it. My dad comes from the Balkans and he always fascinates me with stories of life back then, the fall of communism, what communism was like. These events that occur in life, it's what make us human, how we see them, how we deal with them together.

Everything has positives and benefits. There are more important things occurring right now as opposed to culture. Rebellions are occurring all over the world. There are wars going on. People are dying. Nostalgia is lovely, we all need an escape at times, but living in the past all the time is NOT healthy for the future of humanity. If we lived in the past all the time, we'd never move forward.

There is never a time in life when things are not moving for the ultimate better. Every experience in life is always for the better. Memories are beautiful, but it's not good to live in them.