posted September 17, 2014 02:57 PM            

I don't believe in the saying. I believe in revenge. Settle the score. Only when the other person feels the same amount of pain that you feel,will they be more sensitive and understand your point of view.

Forgiveness begets Cancer.Revenge purifies the toxins that come from a broken heart.

When your boyfriend/girlfriend cheats.And you loved them so deeply that the cheating devastated you,don't cheat back. That will not only demoralize you further but prostitute your body.

Instead,find the thing that will hurt them the most.Wait for a moment of weakness,when they are wide open.Then strike.When done,walk away.Then nurse your broken heart.

I don't forgive.I just ice out people from my life.And for those that have hurt me.I seek revenge.

I'll probably go to hell with the many people that I've made cry. But they hurt me first

Maybe its my Venus in Scorpio? But i don't forgive.

posted September 17, 2014 03:14 PM            

I can kinda relate. But my feelings can dissipate quite quickly, so i never actually seek revenge. i assume that they'll get what's coming to them, one way or another, without me having to dole it out.

I don't believe in condoning actions that hurt people. cheating is not cool. but i understand that it's usually a symptom of something that isn't working already. and i'm huge on free will, so if that's what someone wants to do, so be it. i'll just leave them and never look back.
but what i won't do it, is hold that hate, hold the hurt. it's hard not to sometimes, but i hae to remember it's not my burden, it wasn't my act.

the hardest person to forgive for me is my mother. i go through waves of feeling like i don't care about what she did to me, and then waves of wanting to see her die.

i do agree with that first saying though. it doesn't serve oneself to have vengeful, hateful thoughts....the best way to heal is to simply move on.

posted September 17, 2014 04:34 PM            

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Originally posted by mareaire:
i do agree with that first saying though. it doesn't serve oneself to have vengeful, hateful thoughts....the best way to heal is to simply move on.

sun, asc, mars gemini
cap moon
venus cancer

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Is the "moving on" working for you? These "spiritual" books work on the principle of idealism. Human emotion is a lot more complex.

Revenge is sweeter. I assure you. And you feel better immediately and never think of the past hurt again.

When the person's heart is breaking, I usually whisper in their ear ;"This is what happens to people who live in glass house but throw rocks at others."

posted September 17, 2014 04:37 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I was about to say - I don't have time for all that plotting. Maybe I'm just dumb so it takes longer and I give up? I don't know. I've always fantasized about revenge but ultimately not having them in my life is good enough. I drop people cold turkey. I don't see any point in communicating and explaining and all that jazz, especially when I made up my mind: "I don't like who you are or how you treat me."
Bye Felicia.

Aries Sun
Gem ASC
Taurus Moon
Aries Merc

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Time? What time? The moment shows itself up almost immediately. Just be vigilant.

And when you strike, you can walk away immediately. No time wasted.

I drop people too and don't explain. what I speak of here are people who were supposed to be loyal to you but proved otherwise. that hurts BIG time.

I just don't have a "peace" to walk away and have life deal with them.

The Lord said "vengeance is mine".

posted September 17, 2014 04:51 PM            

and i didn't get that from any spiritual book. just from experience.

yes, human emotion is very complex. i would statr to feel even worse if i tried to hurt someone just because they hurt me. an eye for eye, then we're all blind kinda thing. and like i said, my emotional state is ever changing. i don't feel one way for too long.

having said that, i totally applaud you. not that i want you to get hurt, but damn, i hope some bad people end up on revenge list.

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Is the "moving on" working for you? These "spiritual" books work on the principle of idealism. Human emotion is a lot more complex.

Revenge is sweeter. I assure you. And you feel better immediately and never think of the past hurt again.

When the person's heart is breaking, I usually whisper in their ear ;"This is what to happens to people to live in glass house but throw rocks at others."

Its evil, i know. But so worthwhile.

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posted September 17, 2014 05:05 PM            

Anyway, I believe the best revenge us to live well. And I drop the person out of my life. Period.

I never forget tho. Never. Even when a person comes back to my life due to professional reason or other obligatory issue like family, I make sure they know that even though I'm cordial, I haven't forgotten and I'm keeping an eye on them.

@Aries23degrees: I know a scorpio with scorpio venus and libra mars who is just like you

posted September 17, 2014 05:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
There is a saying that goes "if you harbour resentment or bitterness towards someone, know that it's like taking a bottle of poison everyday and expecting the other person to die."

I don't believe in the saying. I believe in revenge. Settle the score. Only when the other person feels the same amount of pain that you feel,will they be more sensitive and understand your point of view.

Forgiveness begets Cancer.Revenge purifies the toxins that come from a broken heart.

When your boyfriend/girlfriend cheats.And you loved them so deeply that the cheating devastated you,don't cheat back. That will not only demoralize you further but prostitute your body.

Instead,find the thing that will hurt them the most.Wait for a moment of weakness,when they are wide open.Then strike.When done,walk away.Then nurse your broken heart.

I don't forgive.I just ice out people from my life.And for those that have hurt me.I seek revenge.

I'll probably go to hell with the many people that I've made cry. But they hurt me first

Maybe its my Venus in Scorpio? But i don't forgive.

Sun-Sag
Moon-Cancer
Venus Scorpio
Mars Libra

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posted September 17, 2014 05:34 PM            

Not an easy person to move on.

Number 1 influence is Jupoter
Number 2 influence is Moon

posted September 17, 2014 05:55 PM            

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Originally posted by ScandinavianCrab:
May I ask if you got any aspects to Pluto and/or planets in 8th house? You sound a lot like me before Saturn-return got me on my knees.
I'm convinced pluto squaring sun and mercury, trining moon and venus and conjunct ascendant all together made me that way.
I can still feel the urge for revenge but I try not to dwell on it like I used to do. I believe that karma played a part of my fall and that karma will do its thing with those who betrayed me in the past, and I do find some kind of comfort in that.

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posted September 17, 2014 06:00 PM            

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@Aries23degrees: I know a Scorpio with Scorpio Venus and Libra mars who is just like you

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The thing is I really mean well and do all the moral, righteous stuff(Sun in sag conjunct Jupiter). But it hurts so damn much when someone purposefully steps on your toes.

Thing is. I really don't forget. I don't get sidetracked either.

I just sting and move on.

posted September 17, 2014 06:22 PM            

Unforgiving people are more obsessive. Mercury, Mars, Pluto and Saturn dominant and afflicted.

Virgo can be very obsessive and nit picky, never letting something go.
Pisces can obsess as well.
Scorpio tends to be very cold. Their way of unforgiving is to simply cut the person out of their life entirely.
Aries can crave revenge, along with Scorpio.
Capricorn, like Virgo, will harp and harp. They can be cold toward the one who wrongs them, too. Perhaps Scorpio and Capricorn are the coldest signs when it comes to human nature and evil in others. Scorpio longs for others to go their way and be like them, especially morally.

Aquarius will talk about it to others while Gemini will simply turn the tables and try, whenever possible, to give them a dose of their own medicine.

The one sign that likes to forgive is Leo and another is Sagittarius. These two signs are the most likely to embody the forgiving principle of the Christ.

posted September 17, 2014 06:34 PM            

I don't "do" revenge, though. Not only because I believe that it is morally wrong, but also if they are out of my life, they are out. Spending my energy on someone who is no longer a part of my life is a waste of my time. I focus on me, and understanding how it is that I didn't see that part of them, and working on myself. Holding grudges is such a waste of precious life.

posted September 17, 2014 08:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Revenge is sweeter. I assure you. And you feel better immediately and never think of the past hurt again.

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Not true of me. I experimented with revenge and it did not feel good, it felt like a waste of time that was adding problems to my life.

I also loved to go after people who bragged about getting revenge (because they reminded me of my Scorpio sun & stellium mother) and dare them to do something about it...and hoped they did so I could try out some of the nasty things I was already hoping to do to them if they did. But after I got over my mother issues I just feel bad looking back on it, and realize just how stupid it was (though for what it's worth I always "won" and I guess it ruins it for the vengeful when they know I WANT them to bring it so I can show them even worse, the reason being I wasn't around my mom to fight with her instead).

And there's one petty act of revenge that I can't bring myself to describe...I cringe every time I remember it, it was so immature on my part, unnecessary, and affected more than the one I gained my revenge against. And it's made it impossible for me to forget whereas had I skipped revenge I probably wouldn't even think of what was done to me today (and what was done to me doesn't matter, it's the memory of the revenge I took that makes me cringe). So no, I can say from experience that revenge does not work for me the way it does you.

posted September 17, 2014 09:46 PM              

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Time? What time? The moment shows itself up almost immediately. Just be vigilant.

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Okay, give me an example of what you mean by them opening themselves wide up. Maybe we just have different experiences we walk away from?

posted September 17, 2014 10:21 PM            

I find it easy to forgive those who are close to me, as long as they don't do s.t too terrible (like trying to mess up my family). If they do I'll cut them out of my life but I won't do things to them. For old time sake. And because I love them more than hate them.

As for other people, nah I don't see the point of forgiveness. They don't need it. It depends though. If they make mistakes (no ill intention) or what they do isn't too terrible, I'll go to "defend" mode. Taking drastic actions over "small" stuff often leads to a bigger mess. If they do s.t terrible n there is no "peaceful" solution, then I'll definitely have to try n "take them out" Not for revenge coz it gives me no joy or sorrow, but to prevent them from doing further damage - now that's something I want.

There have been a few occasions... But nah after giving it some thought, turns out I acted more out of self defence (immediate reactions) and did not take further actions.

posted September 18, 2014 07:37 AM              

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
There is a saying that goes "if you harbour resentment or bitterness towards someone, know that it's like taking a bottle of poison everyday and expecting the other person to die."

I don't believe in the saying. I believe in revenge. Settle the score. Only when the other person feels the same amount of pain that you feel,will they be more sensitive and understand your point of view.

Forgiveness begets Cancer.Revenge purifies the toxins that come from a broken heart.

When your boyfriend/girlfriend cheats.And you loved them so deeply that the cheating devastated you,don't cheat back. That will not only demoralize you further but prostitute your body.

Instead,find the thing that will hurt them the most.Wait for a moment of weakness,when they are wide open.Then strike.When done,walk away.Then nurse your broken heart.

I don't forgive.I just ice out people from my life.And for those that have hurt me.I seek revenge.

I'll probably go to hell with the many people that I've made cry. But they hurt me first

Maybe its my Venus in Scorpio? But i don't forgive.

Sun-Sag
Moon-Cancer
Venus Scorpio
Mars Libra

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Revenge? That depends. The best revenge is to find your happiness and to shine before your enemies. This way, they'll know what they lost and how insignificant they really are.

But showing someone the consequences of their actions, more like a lesson than actual revenge, is a good idea: why waiting for the universe to take care of our own problems? It's busy anyway