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Topic: Moon/Pluto people, tell me your deepest, darkest thoughts!
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wheresthemoon Knowflake Posts: 844 From: Texas Registered: Aug 2014
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posted October 03, 2014 02:41 PM
I'm so happy to read that some of you have great relationships with your mother! My baby's moon squares pluto and venus and that really freaks me out, lol. IP: Logged |
bopbop Knowflake Posts: 301 From: USA Registered: Jun 2009
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posted October 03, 2014 05:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by wheresthemoon: I'm so happy to read that some of you have great relationships with your mother! My baby's moon squares pluto and venus and that really freaks me out, lol.
Yeah, I'll add to that. Capricorn Moon square Scorpio Pluto (out of sign). Pluto also square Cancer Sun and Leo Mercury (in opposition to Moon). Moon in 9th, Pluto in 6th. How is your relationship with your mother? Great. I love my mother, she is one of the most important people to me thick and thin. I always felt so much love and devotion from her, and like her as a person, too. The problem was she had some emotional problems, and she would attract darker people and situations into our lives; make poor decisions. She was almost murdered in front of me when I was 13 by our roommate, for instance, and married an ex-convict who was abusive towards her (and a Scorpio Sun/Cancer Moon). How strong are your emotions? Been in therapy since I was 5 because of them. Have you ever had depression in your life? Thoughts of suicide? Yes, starting at 11. For both. But I was more like Vajra, where I didn't want to die so much as I was interested in what dying was like. However, the thoughts were compulsive (I was diagnosed with OCD) and terrifying because I'd actually try to feel what it would be like to suffer and die in various ways. Do you get proper amounts of sleep? Or do you or have you ever suffered from Insomnia? Didn't sleep even as a baby. When I was 15 or so it went in the opposite direction and I slept too much (12 - 16 hrs). It's actually much better now, though! How is your sensuality? How do you view sex? How do you view sexual taboos? Had first fantasy at 4 or 5 yrs. I don't know if that is normal? I mean, people don't usually talk about that stuff. So, pretty strong sex drive. Taboos are fine, people can do what they like (unless it hurts someone else). I'm not terribly into weird stuff though, personally. Just as long as it's passionate, or at least in good humor.  IP: Logged |
Sagical Knowflake Posts: 276 From: Glenbow, Canada Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 03, 2014 05:37 PM
I have Moon Sextile Pluto, Moon sextile Saturn and Moon trine Neptune.My story is complicated as I have an 'adoptive' mom who took care of me and that lady who birthed me. I had a relationship with both and I had the best mom in the world and spent time in hell with the birth lady. I'm not sure how to answer this question, however, the birth lady had a lot of Scorpio/Pluto traits in the negative. With her, I spent a lot of time trying to escape her and run away from her. Extremely toxic to me. For a while she had me trapped in a bad household and being a minor at that time, I had no way out. This was in my mid teens and i went into a very deep depression that lasted 14 to 15 years. During that time, I had bouts of feeling and being suicidal. I separated many times from that lady, but kept in touch with my mom. The lady was a highly unforgiving and vengeful person. A lot of triangulation and backstabbing. She would talk to my friends and sabotage my friendships etc.....there would be hidden, false accusations against me as well. How is your relationship with your mother? How strong are your emotions? - I have deep and strong emotions. I feel things to the core. I am highly sensitive and very intuitive. Have you ever had depression in your life? Thoughts of suicide?
Do you get proper amounts of sleep? Or do you or have you ever suffered from Insomnia? - Most of the time I go to bed okay, however, there are some times, I find it hard to fall asleep. Those nights, I go downstairs, turn the tv on and eventually fall asleep on the couch. How is your sensuality? How do you view sex? How do you view sexual taboos? - Sex is overrated. I would be graysexual. I go from treasuring celibacy to a little bit sexual. [/B][/QUOTE] IP: Logged |
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posted October 03, 2014 06:41 PM
I have the trine.I have a complicated relationship with my mother. I love her but I can't be around her for too long. She has never been emotionally supportive and she actually puts me down a lot. If I show emotion she either ignores it, tells me to stop or makes fun of it. She too critical and nagging. She tries to control me but I just realized not long ago that she has no basis for it. I don't ever even need to talk to her if I wanted. My emotions are very strong, they are the driving force of my psyche and the compass to my life. Yes. I'm never really sure if I've gotten over my depression or not. I don't remember the last time I felt normal or truly happy or even comfortable. I'm either numb or sad. I used to be suicidal but not anymore, I've had some attempts but it just made moralize that death really is final, and it's scary not knowing what's on th other side. I'm not sure what I'm looking forward to but I figure why not wait it out, if I'm still depressed in ten years I'll do it then. No. I go through waves if either sleeping Too uch or too little. I can never fall asleep, even when I'm dead tired, for some reason I sleep better the later into the am it is, prob a,y because my mind feels like I'm pushing it and like I'm getting more private time? I'm very sensual but I have a hard time letting it out or even trusting anyone enough to let it out. Being honest win myself, I haven't been able to trust anyone enough to really be my full self in terms of sex and sensuality, I want to merge with someone and for sex to really be an act of true love, and I don't think I can every find someone else that treats it that way. As for sexual taboos, I'm not very into anything too taboo, but I have nothing against them or the people that are aroused by taboo things. However for me, I feel like aching beyond just sex kinda takes you out of the zone, out of he pure essence of sex and emotion and puts you too in your head. If that makes any sense, IP: Logged |
ScandinavianCrab Knowflake Posts: 105 From: Scandinavia Registered: Aug 2013
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posted October 03, 2014 07:45 PM
I've got moon in gemin(9th house)i trine pluto in libra in 1st house.My relationship with mother is fine and always have been. She's been ill though and sometimes I get the feeling she actually doesn't know me. (No she doesn't, but I'm fine with that) My feelings are deep. I think they were stronger when I was younger, but nowadays I would call them deep rather than strong. Depression yes. Thought of suicide? No. Or, of course I've thought about it (who hasn't?) but I never considered it an option. I sleep to much... Sex, yes the more the better, but prefered with a single partner. Taboos.. Well I've slept with my share of married women (probably some kind of "Freudian" result of me fear of being cheated by a girlfriend, like I want to be the guy your wife slept with instead) but I'm through with that. Kinks-wise if I dig deep enough I guess I would like to be slave to a hot woman . Never tried it though and I'm not completely sure I would want to.
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pisceskiwi Knowflake Posts: 70 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted October 03, 2014 08:01 PM
Moon trine pluto here- no mother issues, we get on just great. Ordinarily sleep well. No depression/suicidal feelings... BUT very fascinated with taboo subjects particularly sexual, always have been (8th H sun)...Interested on how close the orbs are for the conjuction ( & square) people. IP: Logged |
ifaf Knowflake Posts: 80 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 03, 2014 08:17 PM
^my conjunction is 4°29' but since they're both in scorpio, I think it could be 11 deg and I'd be pretty much as f*ed as I am now lol.Great thread btw. Very interesting read. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 8932 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 03, 2014 08:46 PM
People have been telling me their secrets, since I keep them. I'm flattered, but I sometimes feel a little overloaded. quote: Originally posted by Gemini30: I have such a fascination with this aspect. I gave it nataly, Moon conj pluto in scorpio in the 1st house. After all I have read about it, it really relates to me big time. Im a male and I had mother issues. She was and still is a total control freak and there are times I wish she was never my mother. My questions for fellow moon/pluto folks are: How is your relationship with your mother?
Getting back to good. It was broken for a while. I have Moon/Venus trine Pluto. quote: How strong are your emotions?
Depends on the day, and the situation. I've been calmer, lately. quote: Have you ever had depression in your life? Thoughts of suicide?
Yes. quote: Do you get proper amounts of sleep? Or do you or have you ever suffered from Insomnia?
Yes. quote: How is your sensuality? How do you view sex? How do you view sexual taboos?
Uh, no comment.
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Vajra Knowflake Posts: 1737 From: Europe Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 04, 2014 04:20 AM
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Gemini30 Knowflake Posts: 644 From: Los Angeles Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 04, 2014 12:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by Vajra: The orb of my Moon-Pluto square is 1'59. It is also part of a T-Square structure, because Pluto is also square the 8th House Sun (orb 2'38). Pluto is my chart ruler, maybe that's why the effect of the hard aspects to both Luminaries has not been so negative in my case. Interestingy, a man I know has a very wide Moon-Pluto trine (orb 9'30), and his answers to the questions would likely be much more in line with the majority here - problematic relationship with mother: check; nature of emotions: overwhelming; history of depression/thoughts of suicide: check; trouble falling asleep/insomnia: check; strong sensuality/interest in taboo topics: check. But then, this could be the combined result of Moon/Pluto with his Sun-Moon-Saturn T-Square...
Interesting! See i think even if it's not in orb, as long as the signs "match" there is the tension. Hence, my aunt has her Moon in Cancer at 23 degrees and her pluto in Libra at 9 degrees and she too would answer yes to all my questions. Thank you for everyone who is contributing to this thread. Reading all your posts have been very interesting!
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localvillain Newflake Posts: 9 From: Brooklyn, NY Registered: Jun 2014
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posted March 26, 2016 04:05 AM
Moon conjunct Pluto in the 4th house here! The conjunction is about 5 degrees.How is your relationship with your mother? Horrendous until I moved out. We can't be around each other for more than 5 days, but the distance between us has unexpectedly made us really close! Living together any time we spoke to each other would turn into a violent argument (didn't help that I have Mars square Saturn as well), but now we talk like really good friends and have a lot more fun and bonding ahead of us. How strong are your emotions? They have been unstable in the past, especially growing up. I really feel for my mother raising me practically alone. But I feel like I have a great grasp on them now and feel like I'm capable of more than I ever expected.  Have you ever had depression in your life? Thoughts of suicide? Puberty wasn't fun, but I never seriously considered suicide until somebody who I had been romantically attached to hung himself. I went through a short stunt of anorexia and drug addiction and that was the closest I came to it, but I've improved in all areas as a person since then and am much happier with who I am today. Do you get proper amounts of sleep? Or do you or have you ever suffered from Insomnia? I have problems breathing in my sleep, and I used to have frequent sleep paralysis - but not so much any more. How is your sensuality? How do you view sex? How do you view sexual taboos? It's really, really hard to surprise me in terms of taboos. Almost nothing phases me and I find myself extremely open and accepting of most people's sexual interests. To the point where I just forget about my own needs. My sexual appetite is also fairly strong, but I have only had unpleasant or unsatisfactory sexual encounters in my life so far (a lot of sexual and emotional abuse from partners), so for the past 4 1/2 years I have been completely abstinent. But I feel like I'm mostly just recharging for a later date. IP: Logged |
strawberryaa Knowflake Posts: 280 From: Registered: Dec 2015
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posted March 26, 2016 06:35 AM
I have Moon square PlutoHow is your relationship with your mother? She is very controlling and obsessive, but I accept that and I have very good bond with her, she is the only person that I trust 100 percent and I always know that she is going to be there for me. She has Moon in Scorpio. How strong are your emotions? I have Pisces moon, so my emotions are quite strong, also my progressed moon right now is in Scorpio, so everything is so intensified that sometimes I don't understand and even fear myself. Also I have this very weird fear of falling in love, because I feel like that the other person will get scared of my intense emotions :/ Have you ever had depression in your life? Thoughts of suicide? I have always struggled with mood swings and being negative. My teenage years were quite difficult. And yes I have had depression, also I get sad very easily. Do you get proper amounts of sleep? Or do you or have you ever suffered from Insomnia? OMG!!! Last spring till about beginning of this year I had crazy insomnia and I couldn't sleep without sleeping pills. I was so stressed out at that time that it felt like different reality. How is your sensuality? How do you view sex? How do you view sexual taboos? No taboos here Hmm.. well I have crazy fantasies, sometimes I get scared of my own thoughts and I feel like there are no other people who would get me. I think if I would said somebody my real fantasies they would run away from me.. and funny thing is that I look very innocent also my Mars Taurus is in 8th house opposite Pluto, so I'm pretty intense, but very secretive about it. IP: Logged |
Gracha Knowflake Posts: 328 From: NY USA Registered: Jan 2013
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posted March 26, 2016 12:59 PM
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charlie Knowflake Posts: 3985 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted March 26, 2016 03:41 PM
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Sylven Knowflake Posts: 581 From: Netherlands Registered: Nov 2014
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posted March 27, 2016 09:45 AM
I dunno. Would a Pluto Moon tell about his deep dark secrets? I know I wouldn't.I have Pluto/Moon sesquiquadrate. I have STRONG emotions. My mother is STRONG, independent absolutely no control freak. I have a very good bond with her. My Moon is in my 5th house. She is VERY creative! She did everything in and around the house. Helped my dad in his business, painted the house, did the garden, made our clothes (from scratch), made a BIG barbie doll house and the little furniture, always busy. She is GREAT and very Neptunian and social. Mild depressions that couldn't be called depression, more dips, but because I am also a very optimistic person it never lasted long. No suicidal thoughts. No insomnia, a very easy sleeper. I won't go into my sexual thoughts and feelings. I am VERY private in some things! IP: Logged |
Sylven Knowflake Posts: 581 From: Netherlands Registered: Nov 2014
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posted March 27, 2016 09:51 AM
A friend of mine has Pluto conjunct Moon in Libra (also square Saturn). She has a very good bond with her mom!! Quite close. Her mother is a chatterbox, very social. Just the mom part here... IP: Logged |
Chiemi Knowflake Posts: 2110 From: Michigan Registered: Feb 2012
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posted March 27, 2016 12:44 PM
Moon trine Pluto hereHow is your relationship with your mother? Lots of unresolved issues from my childhood currently, but not the worst. And now that I'm older I can kind of understand why she did the things she did during my childhood growing up. How strong are your emotions? Now sure I get this question? I guess you could say my emotions are strong in the fact that I can be very black/white about certain things? Like if I cut someone off/cease contact with someone, it's literally FOR GOOD. After I've given someone another chance and they mess up they turn into someone who's never existed. Have you ever had depression in your life? Thoughts of suicide?
Currently seeing a therapist. Not suicidal though. Do you get proper amounts of sleep? Or do you or have you ever suffered from Insomnia?
Lately my sleeping habits have been a mess. I always wake up in the middle of the night. How is your sensuality? How do you view sex? How do you view sexual taboos? "Live and let live". I enjoy sex and I did for a short stint have hang ups regarding sex but that's back when I believed in religion due to my upbringing. I don't subscribe to putting any belief that sex is some almighty sacred act or that it's for "love" and/or procreation only. Sidenote: If anyones interested, I highly recommend reading Marriage, a history: How love conquered marriage by Stephanie Coontz and Sex at Dawn by Cacilda Jethá and Christopher Ryan. Both are interesting and thought provoking works that really make one re-evaluate why some of us (mainly westerners) view sex to be a certain way despite human history showing sex amongst people being used for purposes that are "taboo" today but were quite normal then (and even now in some cultures). IP: Logged |
Selenite Knowflake Posts: 1239 From: Lyra Registered: Aug 2013
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posted March 27, 2016 01:25 PM
I have the quincunx, and Pluto in the 4th is squared to Mars, the ruler of my moon. How is your relationship with your mother? Very complicated. How strong are your emotions? Intense and complicated. Have you ever had depression in your life? Thoughts of suicide? Yes, frequently. Do you get proper amounts of sleep? Or do you or have you ever suffered from Insomnia? I go through cycles of extreme sleep patterns. Sometimes they are circumstantial but many times I'm just too excited about projects / ideas to sleep properly. Other times it seems like I can't get enough sleep to function even if it's 10 hours a night. How is your sensuality? How do you view sex? How do you view sexual taboos? Very, very complicated and messed up. I'm trying to get healthier these days. ^_^ Kind of feels good to say.
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posted March 27, 2016 01:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by Sylven: A friend of mine has Pluto conjunct Moon in Libra (also square Saturn). She has a very good bond with her mom!! Quite close. Her mother is a chatterbox, very social. Just the mom part here...
THANK you for this. Im sick of people always implying that if you have moon conjunct pluto your mother tortured you. I have moon conjunct pluto in libra in the eighth house and i was crazy about my mother, we were together alot, enough that i think my siblngs started to resent me and thought i was the favorite child. We were close and had a good relationship. IP: Logged |
Sylven Knowflake Posts: 581 From: Netherlands Registered: Nov 2014
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posted March 27, 2016 02:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by Spongebob: THANK you for this. Im sick of people always implying that if you have moon conjunct pluto your mother tortured you.I have moon conjunct pluto in libra in the eighth house and i was crazy about my mother, we were together alot, enough that i think my siblngs started to resent me and thought i was the favorite child. We were close and had a good relationship.
And thank YOU! My daughter has Pluto sq Moon. I have noticed that Pluto can create such a deep loving bond!! As your example!! It's lovely to hear you were crazy about your mother. She passed away? My daughter and I are very close!! With my Pluto conjunct her Moon exactly and her Neptune conjunct my Moon. Thanks again! IP: Logged |
Lerena Knowflake Posts: 469 From: Registered: May 2015
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posted March 27, 2016 03:05 PM
I have Moon bi-quintile Pluto. I don't know what this means, but I wanted to answer these questions.How is your relationship with your mother? Fantastic. I'm a bit secretive and it drives her nuts, but if I need her for something she's there to listen. How strong are your emotions? 2000/10. Disturbed? Well, you see, I normally keep my emotions contained in a spiritual wooden box in the deepest parts of my soul. At times, however, the peace gets to me so I let my emotions out to play, but only if I'm alone. Have you ever had depression in your life? Thoughts of suicide? I've been professionally diagnosed with depression since I was 10 years old. I do think about suicide, but I only attempted it once and even then I didn't get very far before I decided not to do it. Do you get proper amounts of sleep? Or do you or have you ever suffered from Insomnia? I go to bed for 8-9 hours per night, but it takes me like 3 hours to wake up and this is with medication and a consistent sleep schedule. I think something is messing with my ability to sleep properly. I even experienced Insomnia at one point. How is your sensuality? How do you view sex? How do you view sexual taboos? Depends on the taboo. Generally, I am uncomfortable talking about sex, but I am actually a massive pervert underneath the discomfort. IP: Logged |
Electro DGX Knowflake Posts: 1395 From: Plutanus/Uruno Registered: Jul 2015
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posted March 28, 2016 11:10 AM
Moon opposite Pluto exact with an orb of 1 minute. Moon also sits in Gemini in the 8th. How is your relationship with your mother? We have a good relationship. She's passive-aggressive at times and has a Cancer Moon in the fourth, so the emotional context for her is easy to understand. How strong are your emotions? Powerful enough to detonate the entire earth if they were to be unleashed. They resonate within my body at the highest of extremes. Have you ever had depression in your life? Thoughts of suicide? I just came out of a depression. This was most likely due to Saturn Opposite Moon & Conjunct Pluto transit, but it was the kind where you're full of anger all the time. No good thoughts, just hatred for everyone that lingers around you. Suicide? Never. I've thought about the idea, but it's never been an option because I see it as a personal failure to withstand life's weight. Do you get proper amounts of sleep? Or do you or have you ever suffered from Insomnia? I've suffered from Insomnia many of times, but I typically get good amounts of sleep. At the moment though, I'm getting 7 hours a week and it's not the best thing to experience. How is your sensuality? How do you view sex? How do you view sexual taboos? Sex is the deepest of all passions, and it must be taken with utmost seriousness in order to every be considered with another individual. I see it as the deepest way to bond on the emotional soul level, so I don't understand how prostitutes came into existence lol. IP: Logged |
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posted March 29, 2016 12:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by Sylven: And thank YOU! My daughter has Pluto sq Moon. I have noticed that Pluto can create such a deep loving bond!! As your example!! It's lovely to hear you were crazy about your mother. She passed away? My daughter and I are very close!! With my Pluto conjunct her Moon exactly and her Neptune conjunct my Moon. Thanks again!
Yeah she did...unexpectedly although moon in the eighth does make that a possibility in retrospect. We didnt have her for as ling as we wanted but she was a damn good mother, im glad we had her at all. IP: Logged |
whaaat Knowflake Posts: 599 From: Portland, MA,U.S Registered: Jun 2013
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Sulkyarcher Knowflake Posts: 821 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted March 29, 2016 10:35 PM
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