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Hemilla
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posted April 01, 2016 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini30:
I have such a fascination with this aspect. I gave it nataly, Moon conj pluto in scorpio in the 1st house.

After all I have read about it, it really relates to me big time. Im a male and I had mother issues. She was and still is a total control freak and there are times I wish she was never my mother.

My questions for fellow moon/pluto folks are:

How is your relationship with your mother?

How strong are your emotions?

Have you ever had depression in your life? Thoughts of suicide?

Do you get proper amounts of sleep? Or do you or have you ever suffered from Insomnia?

How is your sensuality? How do you view sex? How do you view sexual taboos?



I have moon square pluto

1. My relationship with my mother is good ,although i find her to be self destructive,untidy,naive and stuborn very often. I think that when i was a child people tried to distance me from her emotionally and physically,so when i look at past i dont see closeness i have with her now wich makes me very sad - but i do remember listening to them and trying to distance myself and present myself like i dont care for her,while i loved her and felt bad for her because of what they were doing,even though i was very young.

2. They are ... i am not really showing them off,and i try to controll them...they ar enot super strong

3. I think i was little depressed in my teens ,yes

4. I dont have problems with insomnia

5. I am not sure,i see sex as normal interesting thing...

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Elysia
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posted April 01, 2016 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
>> Moon square Pluto.

How is your relationship with your mother?
I'd rather not get into it, but - rocky at best. She's extremely manipulative, controlling, abusive. It took every ounce of strength to disentangle myself from her, because I needed to be the one to take care of her. Not anymore.

I also have Sun square Saturn. So, lucky me! Screwed on both counts.

How strong are your emotions?
I don't know how to answer this without sounding melodramatic. But sometimes, they catch me unawares and explode, leaving things in ruins. Mostly, I just seethe inwardly.

Have you ever had depression in your life? Thoughts of suicide?
Yes and yes. Ongoing struggle.

Do you get proper amounts of sleep? Or do you or have you ever suffered from Insomnia?
Interesting that you mention this. I never thought of my insomnia as connected to the Moon-Pluto aspect. But yeah, I am kind of an insomniac. On a good night i get like 3 hours.

How is your sensuality? How do you view sex? How do you view sexual taboos?
That's classified information.

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Nyctea
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posted April 01, 2016 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nyctea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Moon inconjunct and contra-parallel Pluto

I have very intense feelings.

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Claudine
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posted April 02, 2016 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Claudine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello! Moon conj Pluto in Scorpio 5H

How is your relationship with your mother?

It's ok, and I can't say she is something like control freak. But I think that I am sometimes. Because of my insecurities. But I learn how to let it go.
Upd: I am so grateful to my mother, because I have terrible terrible relationships and hidden bad feelings toward my father, so if not she Idk how would I survive my childhood. =_= (Nothing criminal though). So my mom is like the sun for me ^^ even if we are not very close, but still.

How strong are your emotions?

Strong and deep. But not very expressive.

Have you ever had depression in your life? Thoughts of suicide?
Not diagnosed though, but yes and yes.

Do you get proper amounts of sleep? Or do you or have you ever suffered from Insomnia?

For being able to function ok daily, I have to sleep a lot. I rarely suffer from insomnia. Only before major events.

How is your sensuality? How do you view sex? How do you view sexual taboos?

Idk, tbh. I assume myself demisexual rn. Idk what to say on these questions.

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Gemini30
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posted April 03, 2016 05:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Claudine, most people are demisexual. I mean i can see a hot woman down the street, doesnt mean im thinking about having sex with her.

I would consider myself demisexual as well.

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PixieJane
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posted April 03, 2016 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini30:
Claudine, most people are demisexual. I mean i can see a hot woman down the street, doesnt mean im thinking about having sex with her.

I would consider myself demisexual as well.


This is demisexuality:
http://demisexuality.org/articles/what-is-demisexuality/

If that's TLDR, then the short version:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/demisexual

The important part is that demisexuality is about desire, not behavior. (Furthermore, if demisexuality were the norm then it would just be sexuality. "Demi" implies "less than normal.")

A person who chooses complete abstinence while feeling sexual desire is not asexual (which describes sexual desire) but rather celibate (which describes sexual behavior), and an asexual who has survival sex by selling her body is not suffering sex addition. (Speaking of which, not thinking about having sex 24/7, as you seem to be describing yourself to me, means you're not a sex addict or hypersexual, but it doesn't necessarily mean you're demisexual. ETA: seeing in another thread that you think women with plenty of men as friends means she has a "friends with benefits" thing going on makes me think you are NOT demisexual.)

And if you're attracted to someone but will only agree to have sex AFTER an emotional connection is deep, that does not make you demisexual because that's a choice you've made rather than the sexual feelings you experience. A demisexual would not feel a desire to get to know someone well enough in the hopes of one day marrying them, they're typically driven to get to know people for other reasons that have nothing to do with that (unless someone else is pushing them into it). In a world of demisexuals, cheating on a spouse or significant other with a stranger would not happen as it so often does in this world.

But demisexuality should not be confused with sexual morality or self-discipline, either. In no way does this make a demisexual "morally superior" (nor "sexually repressed") by itself. If anything, the sexually normal person who CHOOSES to wait, overcoming their natural desires, shows more moral fiber and self-discipline than a demisexual "doing what comes naturally."

If most people were demisexual then porn would not be a billion dollar business (despite all the free porn available), and the demand for prostitution would not be such that pimps were constantly "recruiting" with hundreds to thousands imported from other countries every year, in addition to mail order brides and various other sexual services available. Clubs would likely become rare (or at least be very different from the meat markets so many of them are today in which strangers grind up against each other), and meanwhile genitalia shots would not fly free across the internet to turn people on who may not even be that familiar, and people wouldn't look for no strings attached sex from total strangers with even Craigslist used for that.

And then there's the rule of sex sells be it advertising or "fan service" (which is primarily to reward and draw viewers with titillation) which does not work on demisexuals. Likewise, the romance genre (if it even existed) would be very different (no strangers, even villains, that become grudging love interests, but rather childhood friends who are already close would be the norm rather than the exception), and 50 Shades of Grey and even Twilight (and the fan service of the werewolf boy always ripping off his shirt in the movies) would have little to no appeal either, were demisexuality were the norm.

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erickaf
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posted April 03, 2016 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for erickaf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow I think my views of Moon/Pluto people has changed! I didn't think you folks would be this open and honest! However I enjoyed reading this thread.
I am a Scorpio and Pluto is my strongest planet and I couldn't answer these questions because it would make me extremely uncomfortable.

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Claudine
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posted April 05, 2016 06:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Claudine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PixieJane,
Wow, your post is great!
Yeah, there is a thing that demis are in a gray area of asexuality. So I doubt that many people would call themselves asexual.

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