posted November 03, 2014 11:55 PM            

Born to very young teen parents who didn't want children and felt very restricted and disgruntled about their new station in life. Cancer moon in the second trine to Neptune in Sag - maternal grandmother becomes 'adoptive' mother, along with her grandfather 'adoptive' father.

Born two to four weeks early and was very small at birth. Around five or six pounds and under twenty inches long. Now stands over six feet tall.

Technically the oldest child in the birth family. Recently, after years of being scapegoated, the birth family storms out of my life and now the oldest is dead to them.

Adoptive parents died in the 90s. Now a proud orphan.

Maybe what happened puts me on the path of my Aquarian north node in the tenth.

From what I have read sometimes a Gemini rising is the orphan of the family.

posted November 04, 2014 05:56 AM            

Premature birth by one month, stayed in the clinic ( incubator) until I was released 3 weeks later .

posted November 04, 2014 03:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Ugh that must have been brutal for her. And do you think these experiences had a lasting impact on your disposition?

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I don't know hey.

Because later,when i was 11,I was involved in a car accident that left me feeling dazed and confused.

There were about 15 children in transit at the time, and i was the only one severely affected by it(just my luck with natal Uranus in 8th).

I had so many weird dreams in hospital.So vivid.Spent about a month but barely remember the ordeal or the dreams. It was also a "near death" experience.

During my teens,when everyone else my age thought poems were for nerds and geeks,I became very fascinated with death.

I used to love old English poems where someone speaks of death or those that had a sad ending i.e "Death be not proud","Do not go gently unto that good night" etc.

To this day,i really adore melancholic music/movies.It really must be my Venus in Scorpio-Saturn conjunct. I have a high appreciation(Venus)for all things sad and moody(Saturn).

Just reading this makes me tear up.Its an excerpt from Matthew Arnold (1822–1888), British poet.

Sophocles long ago
Heard it on the Ægean, and it brought
Into his mind the turbid ebb and flow
Of human misery; we
Find also in the sound a thought,
Hearing it by this distant northern sea.

The Sea of Faith
Was once, too, at the full, and round earth’s shore
Lay like the folds of a bright girdle furled.
But now I only hear
Its melancholy, long, withdrawing roar,
Retreating, to the breath
Of the night-wind, down the vast edges drear
And naked shingles of the world.

The title is Dover Beach and I just think its so stunning!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Faith:
I was accident-prone until I was about five: two concussions, multiple stitches, took my brother's prescription drugs and had to have my stomach pumped.[/QOUTE]

posted November 04, 2014 05:38 PM            

Were you in the hospital for a full month? What were your transits then? (Not to be nosey, but I'm curious if you have the data handy.)

I also love morbid poetry, morbid stuff within limits. (8H moon/Scorpio NN.) 'Just spent 45 minutes reading though this site earlier today: http://lostallhope.com/

posted November 04, 2014 06:14 PM            

There was never that much focus on me... I guess my brothers needed it more. I am suspected to be very independant, and I was never a spoiled child either. But somehow I always needed their help anyways especially my mother. We had a very close relationship for many years, were we talked a lot. But my mother got a serious illness, and then there was my brother who took a lot of her energy until the day he died.

I have actually felt a bit overseen through my childhood and teenager years... like there was never really room for me anywhere. Some years I felt very lost as a child/teenager, and not at home anywhere.

These days I take care of my own problems and my own life, and I dont talk much with my family at all anymore. We have minimum contact, and I never really call even my mother anymore, nor my dad or my other brother.
It's not that I dont want to, but we just had so much drama that I cant really take anymore.

I'm not sure what my role is, maybe the invisible one? Or the rebel? At least the kind of child who isn't really there and not calling

posted November 05, 2014 04:06 AM            

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^ Yes, good guess! I have Jupiter in Aries, it's supposedly my dominant planet. (Jupiter exactly sextile its dispostor, Mars.) And my progressed moon was in Aries when I was 1-4 years old.

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I must admit that I tend to overlook the progressed chart sometimes.Don't quite know when it fits in really.

But I see that in my progressed chart, my progressed Moon in Leo was square natal Pluto(exact)when I was deathly ill.Hmmm

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Originally posted by Faith:
Were you in the hospital for a full month? What were your transits then? (Not to be nosey, but I'm curious if you have the data handy.)

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When I was in hospital,the one thing that just jumps right at me is my very active natal cardinal T-square-Moon Mercury, Mars that was being affected by the transiting conjunction of Uranus and Neptune in Capricorn.

Add to that,my progressed Mars was also in on that action. Whilst progressed Venus(ruler of 1st) was conjunct transiting Pluto in Scorpio.

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Originally posted by Faith:
I haven't lost hope, I'm naturally optimistic (Jupiter trine Neptune) but I'm also curious to hear what it's like to lose hope...and for whatever reason, reading a meticulous list of suicide methods and their efficacy, pros and cons, fascinates me.

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I also have the Jupiter/Neptune conjunction(orb of 5).But I don't think that I am as optimistic as I used to be.

posted November 05, 2014 07:09 AM            

I'm the youngest child and the only girl, so I'm pretty much the baby of the family. My brothers are much older than me and they're very protective. I

posted November 05, 2014 07:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Well my 1st house ruler(Venus)is in the 7th, conjunct Saturn.

It seems Cap/Saturn can be the grim reaper heh?

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posted November 05, 2014 07:28 AM            

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Originally posted by GoingDutch:
I'm new to astrology, but not everyone have 1st House right?
My chart say I don't have any planet under 1st House.

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posted November 05, 2014 08:17 AM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I can't make up my mind about this article.

Hey Faith, how were your siblings seen (and their ASC)? And did they see themselves and others a different way than you did/do?

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I used to have my Pisces moon brother's birth time, but I've forgotten it, and I've never known the rest of their ASCs. (If I mention their moon signs, it's only because I checked to see that the moon was in one sign that whole day. With my Sag moon-Mars brother, I knew he was born around lunchtime.)

So I guess I can't answer your question. I do know there are differences with how I perceive my brothers versus how they perceive themselves but can't frame the answer in ASC terms.

posted November 05, 2014 08:20 AM            

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Originally posted by GoingDutch:
I'm new to astrology, but not everyone have 1st House right?
My chart say I don't have any planet under 1st House.

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posted November 05, 2014 08:49 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I must admit that I tend to overlook the progressed chart sometimes.Don't quite know when it fits in really.

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For me there's always something that fits amazingly well. Your examples demonstrate that, too

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
But I see that in my progressed chart, my progressed Moon in Leo was square natal Pluto(exact)when I was deathly ill.Hmmm

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Yikes! Right, and my progressed moon, when it was in Aries, opposed Pluto...that's when I was flirting with death a bit around age 3.

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I also have the Jupiter/Neptune conjunction(orb of 5).But I don't think that I am as optimistic as I used to be.

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Conjunction? Whoa. How do you see this aspect playing out in your life?

posted November 05, 2014 09:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Everyone has a first house-- without planets, yours is empty.

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posted November 05, 2014 11:39 AM            

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Originally posted by GoingDutch:
I don't have a planet in the first house.
It is bad to have an empty first house with no planet?
Sorry for asking , I'm new to astrology, I learn as I go

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posted November 05, 2014 12:10 PM            

I also don't have a planet in 7th House.
But Capricorn is on my 7th House Cusp.
Do you have 7th House ungumuda?

and What does Cusp mean?

To those that say if you have empty 7th House, you won't get married.
I don't know how true is that, but I can tell you, I have an empty 7 house, and I have no trouble finding love.
I have a long term relationship, and I am the one that dump the guy after the proposal,and even till now he hates me, we can't even say Hi to each others, lol.
And now a guy in my neighborhood has been chasing me since June, and he still have not give up.
And I do get alot of flirting when I go out, from men in my age group to pervert old men.

I don't know when I'm going to get married though, thanks to my Aquarius Venus, I probably avoid getting married, so I can have the detatch and aloof to feed my Aqua Venus, lol.

Heard that if this life you have empty house, those empty houses you already accomplished in your last life. Now you just concentrate on the houses you have in this life.
Maybe this is true, because I don't view marrige is important. Love and sex are also not important to me. I rather not have any, I like to be independent, both financially and emotionally. That is how I been all my life though, I Never depend on anyone for financial, and I always avoid emotional attatchment. This probably explain why I have empty 7th house.

posted November 05, 2014 12:53 PM            

Taurus: abundant, stable home; homebody/practical, the one that receives family's "investment"

Gem: born early, the "young" one

Cancer Asc: the one who need to be taken care of,
Leo Asc: birth received lots of attention; the happy one

Virgo: the one who is constantly working, or never good enough; birth when people are distressed; the one who is always put-together

Scorpio: conception in controlling/manipulative circumstances
Do you scorp rising have strong relationship with your grandmom?

Cap rising: expected to be the capable one, delay in birth, hard birth (maybe C-section falls into this);

Aqua: the odd one out; similar to leo - receives attention

posted November 05, 2014 02:00 PM            

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Faith:
[b].they thought they would lose me...but I came back to life.

Like Jesus.

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posted November 05, 2014 02:25 PM            

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Conjunction? Whoa. How do you see this aspect playing out in your life?Sorry to go off topic but I'm curious.

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Well,its actually Uranus-South node-Jupiter-Sun Neptune conjunct in 8th. Like a train.

I think it plays out with me having to apply brakes constantly.

I can get so "taken in" and start to assume "otherworldly" things at play in situations that bombard the mind.

Perhaps I foster a longing to unite with a supreme being; Alien, God, Unknown intelligence . I don't know .

But I am so quick to attribute "amazing" things to outside earth life. Outside humanity and outside the bounds of flesh etc.

i.e My friend was explaining to me a situation in his life where he could only explain that it was "faith" that got him through it: He also has Sun-Jupiter conjunct but in Taurus -so he will NOT be moved.

He was owing his Varsity 30 000 and couldn't pay it off.It stressed him constantly and being a person who believes in prayer, he decided to just "leave it to God".

Later that month- and this is his testimony. There was 0 balance in his account.He didn't owe the varsity any monies.All of a Sunday!!!!

After the revelation,I immediately started to ponder the question of "belief" and the presence of the unexplained.

But then,I wanted to apply reason(Mercury in Capricorn) and realized that there is a probability that the Accounts department may have mixed up his statement with another student's. That can happen and does.

Perhaps his account got "lost" in the cracks and could not be found on the system? Virus complaints are not uncommon in some administrative departments-due to old systems and outdated protection software.

Or the varsity, in the interest of starting off the financial year on a clean slate, decided to write off unplayable debts from students.And his was part of the list(maybe accidentally)?

All of this could be the law of nature, gravity,co-incidence and perfect timing. Not an act of "divinity" that my Jupiter-Neptune in Sag would automatically lean toward.

But good luck explaining that part to him. He just won't buy it.And such is the Sun-Jupiter effect.

So yeah,i have to constantly apply brakes and not be gullible and taken in by things that defy logic.

Consider a practical solution ALWAYS. Try to see things as part of life instead of LARGER than life(a classic Jup-Neptune conjunct effect).

Jupiter/Neptune tend to cloud/exaggerate things a lot.

posted November 05, 2014 02:30 PM            

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Do you scorp rising have strong relationship with your grandmom?

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