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jupitersgirl
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posted November 05, 2014 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are you talking about? Why are you so irritated I don't understand. Grow up.

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posted November 05, 2014 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DrewMann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oops sensativity is the sign of a weak mars

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posted November 05, 2014 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jupitersgirl:
Hannaramaa,
yes you are right, English is not my native language so sometimes I mix up similar concepts (my mercury is also a bit problematic lol).
I see this behavior in mercury and mars in pisces. I didn't observe this behavior in other pisces placements.

agree w/you. personally i haven't seen this in the other pisces placements. sun - a bit. but no others. ime.

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posted November 05, 2014 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have no problem about my weak placements. I'm screaming out loud here that my mercury is weak. My Mars is average.

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posted November 05, 2014 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DrewMann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The so called weak signs can be magnified by aspects. My "weak" mars is opposed my sun and jupiter and trine my moon. Thats why I am so powerful

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posted November 05, 2014 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The so called weak signs can be magnified by aspects. My "weak" mars is opposed my sun and jupiter and trine my moon. Thats why I am so powerful

true. i have a 'weak' mars by all accounts, but it's conjunct to sun and pluto so that toughens it. aspects count for a lot.

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posted November 05, 2014 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are so powerful. You are the best. I'm so intimidated by your power drewmann the almighty. I'm very jealous of your mars in pisces, in fact everyone is. Lol

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posted November 05, 2014 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DrewMann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love you too

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posted November 05, 2014 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not just love, I'm your biggest fan.

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posted November 05, 2014 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DrewMann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted November 05, 2014 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted November 05, 2014 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both your Marses seem to be working just fine!

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posted November 05, 2014 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah we should move up on the rank list .

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posted November 05, 2014 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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From what I've observed so far, They don't go after they want, the other person has to take The first step and make an effort to establish a relationship. They are not even passive pursuers. They play the victim when they get in fights. It doesn't mean that they are faking it, I think they really feel that way but they have a subconscious tendency to escape arguments. Mars is not comfortabe expressing its energy in Pisces and these are the disadvantages I've noticed.

May seem stereotype-y, but this has also been my actual experience. And my husband's is 26º, so it's got just a touch of that Aries vibe.

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posted November 06, 2014 06:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Exactly, I wrote what I observed.
If the mars in pisces is not getting aspects that make it powerful or more aggressive, or if it's not singleton or in an angular house or anything like that, it's usually showing its stereotypical qualities. At least I come to that conclusion very clearly.

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posted November 06, 2014 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jupitersgirl:
Exactly, I wrote what I observed.
If the mars in pisces is not getting aspects that make it powerful or more aggressive, or if it's not singleton or in an angular house or anything like that, it's usually showing its stereotypical qualities. At least I come to that conclusion very clearly.

The guy I'm seeing now is not as you describe, in that he is the one the pursued me. He is the one that said we were in a relationship and it was he who said that we shouldn't be seeing other people and he was the one who said "i love you" first. I'd have to ask him how he was with his previous girl friends.

He also does not shy away from 'minor' fights. He's often the one who initiates them as his Leo moon sort of flares up over what I think are quite trivial issues. Though as I wrote above, he does avoid the difficult conflicts such as breaking up with his girl friends. Instead he creates dramas and makes life difficult so that they want to leave, which is super passive aggressive.

His Mars is not aspected in his natal. Well, that's not 100% true. He has one minor aspect, a separating inconjuct at 3deg (actually 2.59) to his moon. I'm never really sure if the minor aspects count.

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posted November 06, 2014 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In unaspected planets, the planets energy is also hightened like singletons imo.
I just wrote the common traits of 3 mars in pisces I know and I tried to only write mars related behavior.
However I think moon is really closely related and one should especially look at moon and mars together to understand the reactions of the individual as well as the other aspects.How you feel and react are closely related I think.
Other than that for example if one has mars in pisces square or opp. pluto or jupiter let's say of course they will be more aggressive and not fit this description but you still feel the underlying tones of mars in pisces or least I think you should. Otherwise what's the point of having different signs. Otherwise we would be claiming that mars in pisces is the same as mars in any other sign which is clearly not.

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posted November 06, 2014 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jupitersgirl:
In unaspected planets, the planets energy is also hightened like singletons imo.
I just wrote the common traits of 3 mars in pisces I know and I tried to only write mars related behavior.
However I think moon is really closely related and one should especially look at moon and mars together to understand the reactions of the individual as well as the other aspects.How you feel and react are closely related I think.

I agree with you. I think the fact that his Mars is only aspected by the minor inconjuct makes him not so much driven by his Mars or let's say his Mars isn't the leader. The traits are certainly in him again like I said the other day he opened his mouth and a very typical Pisces Mars sentence exited.

He's got Sun/Merc/Venus (prob in 10/9) opposite his moon (probably in 5) and those are much stronger drivers in his life.

But who am I to complain about someone else's Mars?! I have a totally useless Libra Mars in the 12th.

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posted November 06, 2014 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have mars in aqua in the 7th and I really see the difference between my mars and mars in scorpio or aries. Especially during arguments lol.

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posted November 06, 2014 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DrewMann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have seen the charts of many MMA fighters and I can say that the mars sign does vary, with libra and virgo mars appearing quite regular, also have seen some pisces and leo, strangly not many aries or aquarius.

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posted November 06, 2014 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have seen the charts of many MMA fighters and I can say that the mars sign does vary, with libra and virgo mars appearing quite regular, also have seen some pisces and leo, strangly not many aries or aquarius.

That's an interesting observation. But I'm not sure MMA is really about "aggression" as such. It's more of an athletic competition and their work/career with a bit of acting tough/making a show of it which I think would be driven a bit differently.

The ones with Pisces Mars might still be passive aggressive emotionally.

It's a fascinating view of Mars. Makes you wonder why not Aires Mars? I wonder what houses their Marses fall in and what the corresponding sun signs are. Interesting topic!


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posted November 06, 2014 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wilderplain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't understand why everyone is on about 'weak' placements. All placements, aspects, etc have good sides and bad sides. Just because someone expresses that energy lazily does not mean the aspect is 'weak', it means that the person hasn't taken responsibility to develop that aspect of themselves yet.

I have Mars in Pisces and my love style is not completely submissive and lazy. I pursue women if I feel the chemistry is there. The best relationships I've had, whether short or long lived, have felt like I"m just going with the flow, hardly any work is involved, everything just happens by itself. That's the Piscean energy of letting go and tuning into the energies already at work, instead of imposing your will on the situation (as an Aries mars might do) or slowly building rapport (Cap mars) or trying to position yourself and events in the best way (Scorpio mars).

Other aspects of my Pisces mars:

I have a tendency to idealize people I've just met
I always take the underdog's side
I put loads of energy into my art

There's other stuff at work here too of course - my Sag sun, my mars is trine venus/pluto and widely conjunct Jupiter, 8th house stellium, etc. But I've tried to distil the purely Piscean qualities for you.

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posted November 06, 2014 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My BFF has Aqua sun & Venus and Pisces Mercury, Moon, and Mars, and she is not promiscuous, deceitful, or a cheater (and to think she also has Libra and Sag placements along with a Gemini ASC, still not a cheater though I think that's about every major sign associated with that rolled up in one). She's not that assertive either but neither is she fatalistic. She's come up with some inventive ways to discourage her more determined tormentors, preferably without them being aware she was behind their sudden bad fortune. Her creativity can be extremely diabolical when properly motivated and if I was forced to choose between having her as a determined foe out to make my life miserable and that of an aggressive Aries deluxe who has mastered 3 forms of martial arts with training in still more, I'd choose to have the Aries deluxe as an enemy.

Her major flaw is that she was always attracted to losers (underdogs?). She'd feel empathy and compassion for them and the men would then latch onto her and treat her wrong which she'd accept far too long under the common delusion that her love would change a beast or frog into a prince. I've stepped in more than once over it, though not anywhere as often as I've wanted to since she'd stop me. She's currently celibate while pursuing her Taoism and other mystical practices.

Granted, she's not a man...it's possible if she were that she'd be very different...but I don't think so.

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posted November 06, 2014 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My BFF has Aqua sun & Venus and Pisces Mercury, Moon, and Mars, and she is not promiscuous, deceitful, or a cheater... She's come up with some inventive ways to discourage her more determined tormentors, preferably without them being aware she was behind their sudden bad fortune. Her creativity can be extremely diabolical when properly motivated ...

this is quite contradictory. you say this person is not deceitful and then go on to explain how they are??

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posted November 06, 2014 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^

Not contradictory. I can recall 3x she was diabolical and I've known her for over 10 years. These people didn't just get on her bad side, she avoids conflicts, these were very determined troublemakers after her who made her feel in physical danger on a regular basis, tried to get her fired because they didn't like her, and so on so the sitch was extreme. They have to put out a determined effort to be a relentless enemy before she resorts to that. Otherwise she's not deceitful (unless it's to lie about something not bothering her).

I'm sure if she was forced to defend herself violently against someone attacking her with a weapon she would but that wouldn't make her a violent person.

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