posted November 05, 2014 07:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
(the priest actually called them boring and said their vows were more equipped to an elderly couple, but not for young people. lol)

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Are they Saturnian?

posted November 05, 2014 02:31 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
5H Sag moon, Mars, Uranus, Neptune, and also a couple of asteroids including Eros. (I also have a Leo ASC which probably adds to the power of that house.)

I don't confuse love with sex anymore than I confuse peanut butter with jelly. And I'm open minded...I've always wanted to experiment with a polyamorous (not "open") relationship but never found a partner willing so I didn't. But during my sexually experimental phase I sought out sex with no strings attached and didn't think it was asking too much. I did finally get invited to a sex club with very high standards that made me feel safe enough to join and that's where I really went nuts. But after I decided I learned all there was know (not so much about sex itself but about myself and the human condition) I moved on.

I could describe a lot of relationships before that but it would take too long to bypass the incorrect assumptions that would be made about them so I'll skip.

After that I've been in dedicated relationships, no flings. Not that I resolved to never have a fling again, I was just more demisexual and my energies went elsewhere than into sex so without someone intentionally redirecting the flow back to sex then it was something I was over. I did enter a fling once but mainly it was to avoid hurt feelings and I thought it would be therapeutic for the person and was surprised when it grew into a very deep relationship of love.

I also want to point out that my being open to the idea doesn't mean I'm a player. If I agree to something then I stick by it. It's the people who go on and on about the importance of monogamy who are the likely cheaters. People who think otherwise simply have so self-control or discipline as they believe that you have no choice but to act out on what you feel, but just because that's true for them doesn't mean it's true for everyone else.

And this made me angry when I was partnered with a serial cheater (and like so many serial cheaters, always going on about the importance of monogamy) who put me down for being open to the idea of polyamory as if I just wanted to play the field with anyone I met. After the first incident of my partner cheating I even reopened the idea of polyamory but that wouldn't do, my partner wanted me to stay monogamous while my partner played the field (my partner saying it would never happen again rather than being honest about it, the selfish ***** ). There was one sexual encountered (a threesome) I was offered that I really wanted to take as both were very free spirited and fun loving which appealed to me, very good looking (I knew them from the gym I went to back then and they were dedicated users), and with very flexible and athletic bodies that intrigued me with the possibilities, but as I was committed to a monogamous relationship (to the cheating partner) I regretfully turned it down...if I could only go back in time now that I know the truth about my then partner...heck, they were likeable enough as people that it's conceivable I'd be in a committed threesome with them to this day had I acted different ('course that would mean I wouldn't have other people in my life who I enjoy today, a thought that makes me sad).

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posted November 05, 2014 04:18 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:

I also want to point out that my being open to the idea doesn't mean I'm a player. If I agree to something then I stick by it. It's the people who go on and on about the importance of monogamy who are the likely cheaters. People who think otherwise simply have so self-control or discipline as they believe that you have no choice but to act out on what you feel, but just because that's true for them doesn't mean it's true for everyone else.

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Those are wise words.

Everybody should be entitled to live in a relationship that makes him/her happy.

posted November 05, 2014 04:30 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I have no energy for flings, art and occasional celeb crushes stole it all

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posted November 05, 2014 09:04 PM            

--Especially if venus and mars are in aquarius with uranus there?

posted November 05, 2014 09:15 PM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I think what you describe is your Gem Moon in combination with the 5th sq Venus Is your Venus in Pisces or Virgo?

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posted November 06, 2014 02:20 AM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I think it's very possible that Moon in the 5th gives this need for solar, light-hearted emotional interaction, especially in combination with a mutable Moon

My ex had Moon conj Mercury in the 5th and despite it being in Aqua, it behaved like a Gem Moon (as the description says) and in combination with the 5th house, it gave him this constant need to keep things flighty as a butterfly - even at funerals, he was laughing and joking. Like he had a bet with himself to always look at the bright side - like a role play, in fact. That's why everyone saw in him the clown of the party, and nothing else. Despite having strong Leo and mutable myself, I couldn't stand it, in the long run - it was artificial, forced.

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Lol yeah idk maybe it is kind of a peter pan thing but even tho I'm a cap I have this fear of settling down into some sort of "formal" relationship where we put on a show for the neighbors and having a sense of humor is considered immature.. That however doesn't mean I think everything should be fun and light hearted constantly, definitely wouldn't make jokes at a funeral.. idk how much of that has to do with the 5th house but Aqua moons can be quite the comedians even in inappropriate circumstances and/or it happens to be at others expense (think Daniel Tosh lol)

Anyway, my longest "fling" was with that cancer with a 5th house Aries moon. Ultimately I can't call that a relationship but it was definitely real, not sure how to explain further without adding to the stereotypes lol but I don't like the idea that the 5th house is automatically shallow or less substantial than the 7th (especially since I have saturn there so.. committed relationships haven't exactly been my forte)

posted November 06, 2014 07:43 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I have no energy for flings, art and occasional celeb crushes stole it all

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posted November 06, 2014 08:00 AM            

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Originally posted by FireMoon:
but I don't like the idea that the 5th house is automatically shallow or less substantial than the 7th (especially since I have saturn there so.. committed relationships haven't exactly been my forte)

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I don't believe that either.I think the bad rep of the 5th comes from the old view that whatever is not marriage (the 7th) must be a fling. And the idea that marriage means the end of romance, replaces romance with cooperation, friendship etc.

I believe 5th housers have this need of feeling "infatuated", the rush of feeling in love in their relationships. This is not easy to maintain in a long term-relationship, but when both people have this playful romantic creative erotic Leo side about them, it can be accomplished. Let's not forget the 5th house is also the house of creativity and fertility, children. 5th housers love children and having a big family, Leo style.

Anything happening on the Fixed (succedent) cross is related to the deep side of love. Intensity, passion, romance, durability.

The life of the couple reflected in the Fixed cross would be:

2nd/8th axis
sharing values, assets, their bodies, physical and emotional intimacy
what is stable and intimate within the couple, as per this Cross

5th/11th axis
solar visible romance, sharing it with the world, the clan
what is renewal; expansive, expressive, creative (showering with romance, reciprocating, sharing it with the group, children)

posted November 06, 2014 08:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Another thought about neptune in 5h. I LOVE to have crushes WITHOUT going any forward. I put up with the guys in my fantasy and that's enough for me

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You really must be very creative, Enneline, with all these placements

posted November 06, 2014 08:10 AM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Another thought about neptune in 5h. I LOVE to have crushes WITHOUT going any forward. I put up with the guys in my fantasy and that's enough for me

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5th housers love children and having a big family, Leo style.

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Anyway, I wouldn't get involved with someone if I wasn't crazy about them and I would do my best to keep the flame alive but I wouldn't expect to feel like I felt in the beginning forever. I couldn't stand a dead relationship for long though.

posted November 06, 2014 08:25 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
You really must be very creative, Enneline, with all these placements

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posted November 06, 2014 02:00 PM            

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZn6w9ShuQo

posted November 06, 2014 03:45 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Another random thought: my Aqua Venus and Sun-Neptune in the 5th want science fiction fantasy romance and even host Saturn can't bring them down to earth. I don't need Leo treatment, I need...science and magic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZn6w9ShuQo

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You mean a weirdmate?

Yeah, I can see how Venus in Aqua 5th wants a flamboyant and unusual partner, someone really standing out. Neptune there will make things even more pronounced.

posted November 06, 2014 03:58 PM            

Now somebody please build this mandroid to join my station

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rIOluOIRIU

posted November 06, 2014 04:07 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
What's so funny about it? They would mesh best with a superheroine and goddess like me

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