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fairaqua
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posted November 14, 2014 06:46 AM
  
Creeper status, for me, is someone I would not feel comfortable with alone. I have had not so good looking men hit on me and I take it at face value and wouldn't mind chatting with them and I've had cute men hit on me where I couldn't get away fast enough. Its in their eyes, the way they hold themselves, the way they talk to you.. If I feel like you might advance me uninvited you are a creeper IP: Logged |
florence
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posted November 14, 2014 07:51 AM
To an extent creeper is associated with less attractive but I think it's more about a lasciviousness which doesn't care about reciprocal attraction. That's the factor. An equivalent for women I'd think would be someone who wants to marry regardless of who it is and at all cost. Doesn't that same thing you might like in someone you care for become an unattractive trait in someone you haven't even connected with? Maybe like the term 'bridezilla’ which is a horrible term as is creeper, they are unnecessarily insulting but sometimes the behaviour assoc with is too.IP: Logged |
wheresthemoon
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posted November 14, 2014 08:58 AM
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Originally posted by fairaqua:
Creeper status, for me, is someone I would not feel comfortable with alone. I have had not so good looking men hit on me and I take it at face value and wouldn't mind chatting with them and I've had cute men hit on me where I couldn't get away fast enough. Its in their eyes, the way they hold themselves, the way they talk to you.. If I feel like you might advance me uninvited you are a creeper
👍 this 100%! It's all about the vibes you get and trusting your intuition😊 it's so important to trust your own inner compass on things like this. IP: Logged |
Jinni
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posted November 14, 2014 09:20 AM
The girl I know who really get dislike from other women has unaspected moon and venus and they are not in Scorpio either. However she has afflicted jupiter in eleventh and she behave very provocating and bitchy at times so I do not know if the "feedback" she is getting more about the way she is than women disliking her in general.However I have pretty afflicted moon including square from venus and opposition from pluto and I generally feel that I`m if not liked at least tolerated by women. I usually have some problems at first but as soon as they get to know me they like me. I think that because I have such a bitchy voice it is what is causing problems.I sound really arrogant and like I thought that I´m better than the others. I have tried to dissolve this problem with laughingh a lot and smiling all the time. I gotta love mercury squaring ascendant, huh?! IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted November 14, 2014 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by fairaqua:
If I feel like you might advance me uninvited you are a creeper
Well how is a guy supposed to know you aren't into him unless he tries chatting you up or flirting with you? This may be a shocker but guys are not mind readers and neither are women. So why do women expect us to just know if it's ok to talk to them at any given point? Again, we are not mind readers. It can be extremely hard being a guy because you are always expected to make the first move and you are expected to just know if a woman is into you. And then to make matters worse some women are teases and will flirt when they aren't really into you and then you have some women who will act like they aren't into you when they really are. Women are confusing as h*ll to most of us and put out all kinds of mixed signals. I just wish today's women could realize and respect how hard it is for a man to meet women and not be so quick to label a man creepy. Most men are not out to get you, they are just men trying to meet a woman like anybody else. And it can be hard to approach a woman with all this hostility that women have towards men thanks to feminist induced paranoia. Personally I'd like to see the roles reversed for a week and have women try to pick up men they are into. Then maybe... Just maybe... They would understand how hard it is and respect men for doing it. IP: Logged |
wheresthemoon
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posted November 14, 2014 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by fairaqua:
[b]If I feel like you might advance me uninvited you are a creeper
Well how is a guy supposed to know you aren't into him unless he tries chatting you up or flirting with you? This may be a shocker but guys are not mind readers and neither are women. So why do women expect us to just know if it's ok to talk to them at any given point? Again, we are not mind readers. It can be extremely hard being a guy because you are always expected to make the first move and you are expected to just know if a woman is into you. And then to make matters worse some women are teases and will flirt when they aren't really into you and then you have some women who will act like they aren't into you when they really are. Women are confusing as h*ll to most of us and put out all kinds of mixed signals. I just wish today's women could realize and respect how hard it is for a man to meet women and not be so quick to label a man creepy. Most men are not out to get you, they are just men trying to meet a woman like anybody else. And it can be hard to approach a woman with all this hostility that women have towards men thanks to feminist induced paranoia. Personally I'd like to see the roles reversed for a week and have women try to pick up men they are into. Then maybe... Just maybe... They would understand how hard it is and respect men for doing it. [/B][/QUOTE]It's all about body language. No one is saying it would be your fault if she was flirting without interest. That's on her. And there's nothing wrong with flirting, but if you're getting strong signals that a woman isn't interested, it's creepy to proceed anyway, because it sends a message that you'd be willing to proceed in other ways without her consent as well. Idk what you're worried about; from what you're saying it doesn't sound like you're one of those creeps anyway. And I think she was talking about sexual advances, not flirting. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted November 14, 2014 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by wheresthemoon:
It's all about body language. No one is saying it would be your fault if she was flirting without interest. That's on her. And there's nothing wrong with flirting, but if you're getting strong signals that a woman isn't interested, it's creepy to proceed anyway, because it sends a message that you'd be willing to proceed in other ways without her consent as well. Idk what you're worried about; from what you're saying it doesn't sound like you're one of those creeps anyway. And I think she was talking about sexual advances, not flirting.
I'm just saying that judging someone by their body language or facial expressions is not nearly as reliable as people think it is. Some people can seem friendly and approachable but turn sour and moody when you approach them and some people may appear stuck up or unapproachable but they may be the nicest person you ever met if you just talk to them. It's not as cut and dry as some would like it to be. The fact of the matter is you can't possibly know if someone is open to you unless you try to talk to them. Just an example, I ended up dating a girl who seemed stuck up and anti-social when I first saw her. But I took my chances and approached her anyway and she ended up being nice and friendly. I have also been told I appear unfriendly until you get to know me. The moral of these stories is don't judge a book by it's cover. If guys only approached women who appeared outwardly friendly and open to talk to them we would miss out on meeting great people.some of the best relationships happen because a guy has the courage to approach a woman he doesn't know on the street or in the store. I just wish more people could be more open-minded about things.
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wheresthemoon
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posted November 14, 2014 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by wheresthemoon:
[b] It's all about body language. No one is saying it would be your fault if she was flirting without interest. That's on her. And there's nothing wrong with flirting, but if you're getting strong signals that a woman isn't interested, it's creepy to proceed anyway, because it sends a message that you'd be willing to proceed in other ways without her consent as well. Idk what you're worried about; from what you're saying it doesn't sound like you're one of those creeps anyway. And I think she was talking about sexual advances, not flirting.
I'm just saying that judging someone by their body language or facial expressions is not nearly as reliable as people think it is. Some people can seem friendly and approachable but turn sour and moody when you approach them and some people may appear stuck up or unapproachable but they may be the nicest person you ever met if you just talk to them. It's not as cut and dry as some would like it to be. The fact of the matter is you can't possibly know if someone is open to you unless you try to talk to them. Just an example, I ended up dating a girl who seemed stuck up and anti-social when I first saw her. But I took my chances and approached her anyway and she ended up being nice and friendly. I have also been told I appear unfriendly until you get to know me. The moral of these stories is don't judge a book by it's cover. If guys only approached women who appeared outwardly friendly and open to talk to them we would miss out on meeting great people.some of the best relationships happen because a guy has the courage to approach a woman he doesn't know on the street or in the store. I just wish more people could be more open-minded about things. [/B][/QUOTE]I see what you're saying.
But again, approaching someone and being a total creeper are two different things. If a guy approaches me and I'm not interested, I would kindly turn him down and NOT label him a creeper. But if someone is leering, I'm glaring and/or turning away and they continue leering, instant creeper status. If you've ever been leered at you will know what I'm talking about lol. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted November 14, 2014 04:08 PM
I would be in the same boat. I'm a friendly person, I LOVE people, but always get this instant wall from women. It's like I'm instantly put on a projector and picked apart. I'm in sync with who I am and what I want in my life(for the most part) and I'm not sure if that's apart of it or what, but some women just do NOT like me. I'm judged and assumed of things that are the complete opposite of myself. My chart's not a pretty one, I have plently of Mars squares, I'm aggressive without meaning to be, not afraid to use my voice. I'm a magnet for unwanted attention. 1st house Scorpio Venus. Not sure what it could be. All of the Libra, 12th house maybe? I get along a lot better with men. IP: Logged |
Enneline
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posted November 14, 2014 05:52 PM
For my friend: she often has an arrogant, snobbish gaze without meaning it. She's not aware of that. + she holds her head up high - in the trust sense of the word. That sounds horrible but she's really lovely  People (young women) just see her gaze...see her chart I posted. I think her neptune in 1st and her little, loose stellium in the 10h and lilith conj asc could be responsible that she is not aware how she comes across IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted November 14, 2014 06:26 PM
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Originally posted by Enneline:
that's the chart of my friend. I wouldn't say she's an unpopular person in general, she is well liked by men and older ladies but she is really hated by more than a few women (her age); I haven't seen that before; once a woman almost run over her. I really was like 
She really faces bitchiness & cattines pretty often. 
Uranus conjunct asc from the 12th?
Someone seemingly odd and different, and also seemingly to be hiding that fact. With happy go Lucky sag asc. Perhaps for that reason coming across as fake?
Just a guess. I'm not sure if I buy the afflicted moon/Venus thing. It makes sense but I don't have ANY trouble with women and I have moon square mars and Neptune square Venus.
Plus other stuff.... But maybe my chart has things that offset that and then some. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted November 14, 2014 06:29 PM
Enneline your friend sounds like me hahaha. She does sound lovely. I've been told many, many times, I just asked DeepFreeze and he too says that he'd think this, but people say that I look I'm too good for anyone. I'm very short(just 4'10") and I walk with my nose up in the air according to Deepfreeze. My responses on LL make me sound really cocky and I'm not. It sucks to be categorized and thought of that way but when I talk with people who thought that way about me they instantly get that I'm not at all snobby or full of myself.I wonder what causes that. I saw her chart and we both have Mars sqaure moon and the trine to our venus. I don't have Sag ascendant, I do however have Jupiter conjunct my sun and moon. It could be why we're so sure of ourselves and are optimistic. Maybe it's the Libra? IP: Logged |
Enneline
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posted November 14, 2014 06:37 PM
Are u going to change your walk?  I mean on the one hand such reactions may hurt feelings but on the other hand: why change for someone else? I remember you have a 12h stellium that surely effects your asc somehow.
So the 2 of you have a lot in common: moon sq mars along with asc that are touched by 12h planets & an optimistic, self-confident nature...yes, that could cause a lot of misunderstandings. People might think that you think that you are better than them. But of course that's not the case IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted November 14, 2014 07:00 PM
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Are u going to change your walk? I mean on the one hand such reactions may hurt feelings but on the other hand: why change for someone else? I remember you have a 12h stellium that surely effects your asc somehow.
So the 2 of you have a lot in common: moon sq mars along with asc that are touched by 12h planets & an optimistic, self-confident nature...yes, that could a lot of misunderstanding. People might think that you think that you are better than them. But of course that's not the case
Hahaaha absolutely not. Exactly, love me or hate me I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it. Misunderstood should've been my name hahaha. That 12th house rocks my chart's world and I love it. I feel like I may be the only person who feels that way. I'm weird, different and above all else random. I'm real and don't ever stray away from saying how I feel, bitchy or not, and I think that's why for the most part I'm well liked and respected. People who really talk to me get that, I'm not a robot, I'm just simply me. If only more people truly embraced who they are and flipped their middle fingers to those who say otherwise. Insecurity is THE greatest evil. Your friend and I have a lot in common. That's pretty awesome, I hardly ever come across people who are the same.
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posted November 14, 2014 07:46 PM
Oh wow I feel you. I've got the same thing but with men (I'm a girl). I can't make friends among men, and they too feel super uncomfortable around me. Women though are generally very understanding and supportive of me.Hmmm. Scorpio Pluto opposite Taurus Venus? IP: Logged |
ungumuda
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posted November 14, 2014 08:10 PM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I'm not sure if I buy the afflicted moon/Venus thing. It makes sense but I don't have ANY trouble with women and I have moon square mars and Neptune square Venus.
Plus other stuff....But maybe my chart has things that offset that and then some.
I think afflifcted moon/Venus make the person struggle with self worth.
I have moon square most of my outer planets and I'm very hard on myself *sigh*
Sometimes I feel like that I'm not good enough, and no one like or care about me. However I actually get along very well with people. My friend often describe as friendly and lovely. And I'm in everyone's top friend list. So the problem is only in my head. IP: Logged |
Enneline
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posted November 14, 2014 08:14 PM
i have moon aries quintile venus in cancer? How does that play out? I normally get along better with women than with men...IP: Logged |
Enneline
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posted November 14, 2014 08:16 PM
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Hahaaha absolutely not. Exactly, love me or hate me I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it. Misunderstood should've been my name hahaha. That 12th house rocks my chart's world and I love it. I feel like I may be the only person who feels that way. I'm weird, different and above all else random. I'm real and don't ever stray away from saying how I feel, bitchy or not, and I think that's why for the most part I'm well liked and respected. People who really talk to me get that, I'm not a robot, I'm just simply me. If only more people truly embraced who they are and flipped their middle fingers to those who say otherwise. Insecurity is THE greatest evil. Your friend and I have a lot in common. That's pretty awesome, I hardly ever come across people who are the same.
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Enneline
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posted November 14, 2014 08:19 PM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Uranus conjunct asc from the 12th?
Someone seemingly odd and different, and also seemingly to be hiding that fact. With happy go Lucky sag asc. Perhaps for that reason coming across as fake?
Just a guess. I'm not sure if I buy the afflicted moon/Venus thing. It makes sense but I don't have ANY trouble with women and I have moon square mars and Neptune square Venus.
Plus other stuff.... But maybe my chart has things that offset that and then some.
yes, i think you're right with my friend. I don't think venus sq neptune causes an inappropriate attitude towards women, no..not all...those men can make a woman feel like a princess; it's romantic, artistic and sometimes you'd have rose tinted glasses on. I think this aspect cancels aspects with aggression alerts out. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted November 14, 2014 10:52 PM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I'm not sure if I buy the afflicted moon/Venus thing. It makes sense but I don't have ANY trouble with women and I have moon square mars and Neptune square Venus.
Plus other stuff.... But maybe my chart has things that offset that and then some.
Just curious... Do you have any other aspects to your moon and your venus? Maybe some positive aspects that balance things out? I can tell you that my moon and venus are both beat up pretty badly aspect wise. And the icing on the cake is the rulers of my romance houses (5th and 7th) are also afflicted. So yeah it goes without saying that I have had issues with women. Also in your case i'm not sure venus square neptune would have that effect.IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted November 14, 2014 11:07 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
[b]I'm not sure if I buy the afflicted moon/Venus thing. It makes sense but I don't have ANY trouble with women and I have moon square mars and Neptune square Venus.
Plus other stuff.... But maybe my chart has things that offset that and then some.
Just curious... Do you have any other aspects to your moon and your venus? Maybe some positive aspects that balance things out? I can tell you that my moon and venus are both beat up pretty badly aspect wise. And the icing on the cake is the rulers of my romance houses (5th and 7th) are also afflicted. So yeah it goes without saying that I have had issues with women. Also in your case i'm not sure venus square neptune would have that effect.[/B][/QUOTE]Let's see... Moon
Square mars
Square mercury
Trine Uranus
Sextile sun
Conjunct mc
Square asc
(Not going into minor aspects) Venus
Square Neptune
Conjunct mercury (very loosely) IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted November 14, 2014 11:28 PM
IMO Venus conjunct MC would indicate popularity with women. I bet that's canceling out some of those nasty aspects to your moon and venus. IP: Logged |
deepseablues
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posted November 15, 2014 01:33 AM
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aquaguy91
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posted November 15, 2014 01:53 AM
Ok...IP: Logged |
GoingDutch
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posted November 15, 2014 04:04 AM
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