posted November 14, 2014 07:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Hmm that's because we mistake individuality for selfishness.
Regardless, I believe you can't be of true service/integrate to the whole/source/humanity/"us" until you find your true self.

But I'm an Aries, you're a Pisces. We're at opposite ends of the spectrum. The "I" vs "us" right there. Except I don't believe there has to be a "vs". You can never dissociate from either of them, they just need reconciliation within yourself. Establishing my authentic identity and firm self boundaries was my way of doing it. The Universal is no longer such a threat to me now.

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posted November 14, 2014 07:36 PM            

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
Existential? Ontological? Emotional? Socioeconomic? Say more, give us a feel of your crisis.

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posted November 14, 2014 07:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
See, I strongly refuse to believe in this destined to be/do thing. Screw destiny. I make my own destiny. I own my choices, good or bad.

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posted November 14, 2014 07:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:

I personally think staring at clouds is a nice way to pass the time. I am here on earth to bask in my human experience and *every* little perk about it.

Screw all the musts and have to's. They imprison the mind, the body and the spirit. Oh.. how they enslaved us with this stupid programming.

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I agree with you, but thats the think..
So this madda of today would be just a scrach.
So we don`t need to do nothing, break our haeds about nothing, that everything will be fine? (real question)

posted November 14, 2014 07:57 PM            

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
TensionEmpire, we are not too different. I understand your struggle. I think, maybe I'm wrong, you're having an ontological crisis as well. And if you do, all I can say is... Good luck and have a great journey and read some Heidegger on the way.

Be a Dasein.

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posted November 14, 2014 08:01 PM            

How do I say this?
I think, BEING yourself. Finding your happiness, appreciating EVERYTHING in life that you are given. As DM says... clouds! Everything. When someone is gone, appreciate what they gave you, what you took away from them. Even if the experience was awful, personal growth is around every corner.

Yes, we live in a world full of materialism. I have friends who always HAVE to have the latest and greatest. My friend just bought a Samsung Galaxy S5 AND... an iphone 6+. Does he need both? Heck no. He always tells me that I should get this or that, and so do some other friends. You know what though? I love my phone. I love having the technology. I love being able to keep in touch. I love being able to use my phone or computer to connect with you all. BUT, I don't care if it's old or outdated, or whatever. (My phone is an S4 btw ) I don't have ANYTHING that I have, for the mere sake of having it. I have them because I like them, they do what I need them to do. I'm satisfied, but see no reason to obsess over it. If someone else wants to obsess over what they have, good for them. If they think whatever they think of me because of any material things I have or don't have... well good for them too!
But I know that I just work hard for the things that I want, for the things that I have now. I like them.
But the most important things to me are my relationships, my family. I care about them. The people that I keep around me are people who treat me how I want to be treated. They respect me. (My technology-pushing friends are very respectful that I'm fine with what I have and DO care for me . They just want me to have more because it makes them happy, they think it'll make me happy too)
I look for people who like me for me and nothing else. The material stuff is just a bonus.
I don't care what the rest of the world thinks. Let them spend THEIR time, and THEIR money on that stuff. For me, I have some things but I think traveling on a vacation and having an experience, though not something that you can take home with you or drive around with, you can keep in your heart. That my friend, is where the best things in the world are, in your heart.

posted November 14, 2014 08:02 PM            

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Originally posted by TensionEmpire:

"What happens when we die? Nothing, the wind blows our footsteps away and we are gone.."
how beautifull is that?

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posted November 14, 2014 08:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
I'm apart of the Cap Neptune and Uranus generation and I'm soooo lost. 0_o Does this have to do with living for the now? The golden rule?

I experienced something similar when I was 19. I thought I felt one way and turns out it was the opposite. I was lost and discovered who I truly was. Is this what you mean? Are you confused, having an identity crisis?

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posted November 14, 2014 08:14 PM            

Sorry.

PD helped some, once I started looking.

posted November 14, 2014 08:36 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Ok I'm lost again...

Sorry.

PD helped some, once I started looking.

But, I think it's something each individual needs to discover. There's some things that only you can figure out because the key is different for everyone.

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posted November 14, 2014 08:36 PM            

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Me too DeepFreeze still trying to figure out what it is..
You can have any phone, will you get sad if it falls on the ground?
Sometimes I believe I can`t fit in any group.
I have moved out of my Town. I keep almost no contact with my old friends, I feel strange when I meet them.
I say I have no friends at the place I live at the moment.
I try to feel my Heart but I can`t distinguish it.

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If my phone fell and broke? Yeah I'd be upset, sure. But I'd get over it. I'd get another. But I wouldn't lose sleep over it.

You know, you sound a little like I was.
I have friends. I mean, I could just get in touch with them, or I talk to them from time to time. But to be truthful, I have my wife, my mom, my sisters that I see quite a bit. I have a best friend that I see once in a while. (Once every two weeks or something like that) We talk to each other like we just saw each other yesterday.
So really, I mean, I don't even have friends like you see other people have friends. They're there, but I spend a LOOOOOOOOOT of time alone, with my wife. Or I see people at work but sometimes I don't feel like talking to them. I keep to myself.
The ONLY difference between now, and when I was younger, is that I'm comfortable with it now. I'm ok with it, and I don't feel the need to be like anyone else, or do things like anyone else.
I like my personality be my advertisement. Not my things, not my clothes, not my friends. If someone take the time to get to know me, what I give them, is something that they can have for life. Meaning... what if they like me because I fit in with a "clique"? Then one day I change and no longer care to be a part of it? Will they leave me?
I don't go for that. I let my heart and mind do the "talking". If they get to know my heart, and my mind, they have "me". That will never go away. The very core of my being.

My best friend, and even many of my friends... we have DRASTICALLY different beliefs, but there's a certain... "human need" that we fill in each other. Just... love and respect. Honesty, support... those things. What he believes is no matter to me. It's his heart. We have similar senses of humor. We laugh! He plays video games a LOT. That's his life pretty much. 10+ hours a day. I haven't played video games in years. But I go over there, he plays games, I kind of sit and watch a little bit. But we talk, we being fools with each other and laugh. We still see eye to eye on many other things.

To me, it's all of these things that we unnecessarily allow to get in the way of ourselves. Why some segregate themselves by class, or etc. I'll never understand.
I will treat a guy driving a Benz and in a business suit with the same respect that I would show to a person sweeping the sidewalk at a McDonalds. We're human, we're people. Forget all of the other attachments. Everyone wants to be liked, loved, treated with respect, appreciated, to have friends. Those things and it doesn't matter what else.

That's how I feel.

posted November 14, 2014 08:37 PM            

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Yeah I am confused, and I have an identity crisis also, too much crisis that would be.
My crisis resumes in what I said above, I believe I have 2 options.
I believe it has to do with the golden rule, I believe Sedentarims turns the golden rule a difficult think to acomplish.
I wished I would know who I truly am.
I do not understand it, how this sustains so long, how could we "lost" people manage to simply, make it STOP.
I believe chaos will be salvation

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I know the troubles being confused with oneself can cause. Unfortunately we all go through them. We learn things about ourselves that we didn't know or realize we were actually capable of. It comes with the territory of growing and maturing.

I'm sorry that you're experiencing crisis. Know that it will pass and you'll be even more mature and will unlock more of yourself when you pull through. Time is not our enemy. Live life at your pace, whatever that pace may be. Don't compare yourself to others, there's only and will always be one you. Take pride of the obstacles you've surpassed. Don't regret anything, no matter how big or bad it may be. Life is a precious gift every person on this planet has been given.

Chaos is never the answer. Remember that with all bad there is good. Although at times that may seem impossible, darkness always has light.

posted November 14, 2014 08:45 PM            

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Originally posted by TensionEmpire:
Me too DeepFreeze still trying to figure out what it is..
You can have any phone, will you get sad if it falls on the ground?
Sometimes I believe I can`t fit in any group.
I have moved out of my Town. I keep almost no contact with my old friends, I feel strange when I meet them.
I say I have no friends at the place I live at the moment.
I try to feel my Heart but I can`t distinguish it.

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I don't have anything great to add, but I completely understand what you are talking about in this thread. I'm going through a Pluto conj Neptune transit and I feel exactly the same. I feel everything in my life is turning into an illusion or what I perceived it to be was an illusion.

I have ended contact with a lot of my friends, turns out they weren't such good friends. The identity I have for myself is starting to fall apart, and I question every decision I made in the past. Looking back on the past couple of years made me realize how wrong I interpreted situations, and seeing the truth makes me regret how I handled them.

I have spending a lot of time contemplating and being alone, and part of me wonders if I am okay or this is just apart of the process. I feel as if I am just going through the motions and sadly empty inside. I think a lot of it also has to do with pMoon in 1st, which is bringing up things I have refused to deal with.

posted November 15, 2014 01:00 AM            

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Who else feels that the time has come?
That you will experience the breakingpoint of Modern World?

I believe this Has to do with Uranus and Neptune in Capricorn of my Generation.
I believe Lilith plays a role also conjucting my Uranus.
Cause it is really crap. I`m part of the crap, oh how I regreat it..
And if itīs not all that, if it`s just a scrach, what`s the point in living?
Someone has to do it.
To be a Hero is to take the oportunity.
I pray unconscious, that we will be.

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Maybe we will feel the breaking point of the modern world and it will be a wonderful freedom but it will hurt for those attached to it.
What is the point in living if it is just a scratch you ask? I can only give some of the answers that have come to me. That we are here to learn the lesson of life and love. To pay off karmic debt. To grow and evolve our consciousness, to assist in the Awakening and the shift from dark to light. We are here to learn. And if it doesn't make a difference well I don't know if it does or not. I feel you TensionEmpire. I have desired to change the world, to make great changes!! I have wished for things to return to the old days, to past life memories that tug strongly on the heart strings. I have cried and raged over the pity of my smallness and inability to induce great change. But the smallest of effects can have great changes, like the ripples of a pond getting larger and larger as they flow out from a starting point. Your being and awakening consciousness has and does make a difference. Every awakened soul is helping Mother Gaia. They say this life is like a dream and when you die, you realize it was all a dream (or a nightmare) and see everything for the way it truly is. If nothing else comforts you, when they say "this too shall pass" know that it means not only this moment, this feeling too shall pass, but this life! One day it will all be over, this life and a great sigh of relief can be had. That is something that keeps me going, knowing that one day it will end, one day I can be freed of the shell entrapping my soul, one day this body will be shed like the skin of a snake and it will all be over and I will be free. One day freedom shall be yours. Ours. Everyone's. I wish I could say something to help you, because I can feel the confusion, the heart pain because I have been and am there often myself. Know that you are not alone in your feelings even when it seems so. All I can do is leave you with some quotes for now, and hopefully try to think of something better to say. You have said that you do senseful work on the land, that makes a huge difference in this world and to Gaia, every soul helping her counts. If you want to be free and go out into the World maybe you should, maybe you will find yourself. They say to follow your heart, which is easier said than done when the head is always getting in the way confusing and muddling everything up.

"Don't try to change the world,
Try to love the world.
Lo, the world has been changed,
Changed forever."

"In order to become a man of knowledge one must be a warrior, not a whimpering child. One must strive without giving up, without complaint, without flinching, until one sees, only to realize then that nothing matters."

"What makes us unhappy is to want. But if we would cut our wants to nothing, the smallest thing we'd get would be a true gift... To be poor or wanting is only a thought; and so is to hate, or to be hungry, or to be in pain."

"The most effective way is to live as a warrior. Worry and think before you make any decision but once you make it be on your way free from worries or thoughts; there will be a million other decisions still awaiting you. That's the warriors way. A warrior thinks of his death when things become unclear... Because the idea of death is the only thing that tempers our spirit."