posted February 22, 2018 09:05 PM              

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Originally posted by diamondbaby:
Lol anything Scorpio/Pluto/8th house is overrated. I have noticed that a lot of people like to claim to be “scorpionic” or “plutonian”, even if all they have is a Mercury/Pluto biquintile. Even on Youtube anything Scorpio/Pluto/8th house related has at least 5 times more views than other astrology videos.

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Originally posted by margym0o:
Because everyone just wants to be cool.

They think that by touting their Scorpio/Pluto/whatever placements it makes them part of this elite club where they are the most powerful beings out there and everyone else are mere peasants.

The reality is everyone is attracted to something different, otherwise there'd be a whole lot of single people running around with Pluto-less charts.

Venusian-heavy folks tend to be sweet and charming, Martian-heavy very active and engaging, Mercurial-heavy very talkative and friendly...

The irony in my opinion is the people with the most Pluto-heavy charts tend to be the most miserable and with the lowest relationship success rates, because the same energy that "lures people in" tends to ultimately push them away, either because the other person decides to leave or the native has too many of their own issues.

Pluto is a cold son-of-a-gun, and tends to make the native such as well.

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^^^^ I agree with all of this!

posted February 22, 2018 10:55 PM            

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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
That is strong having Lilith conjunct North Node. No wonder the guys were/are drooling. LOL

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Hey blue-eye soul
Will you send me your birth details?
I was completely wrong about Lilith though
I am confusing its sign with Juno
It's Juno in 7th H opposite Chiron.

posted February 22, 2018 11:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:

That's a bit harsh though. It feels like you are angry with the whole Pluto thing.
Most people are talking about Pluto aspects here, there is a reason for that, the op asks about what makes someone irresistible not active/sweet/talkative/friendly.
Not all people like the same things, not all have the same taste, it will always depend on the synastry aspects but when it comes to Scorpio/Pluto people the majority of people (I don't mean just here, but in reality too) find them to be moving magnets.

All planets in hard aspects can cause problems. I find Neptune/Uranus/Nodes/Saturn in 7th H or in aspects with Venus to be the most problematic and difficult to handle (if we can somewhat handle them that is) when it comes to love.. I have all those..
Pluto to me seems to be far less worse than those. So I definately not agree with you about it being that problematic compared to other planets.

You are talking about Martian people but Mars is a weaker, more swallow, powerless, emotionless, uncontrolled and immature version of Pluto.

Mars aspects are the least appealing with the exception of Venus-Mars aspects and Pluto-Mars.

I am not trying to say that my opinion is the right one or that Mars/Aries people seem to be the least appealing because I just don't like them myself. I am sharing my observations (although I have just basic astrology knowledge but I've looked at many charts these last years trying to understand as much as possible by comparing charts and personality traits). I met people who are not really liked by anyone and they seem to have problems with all their relationships (meaning with relatives, friendships, lovers, bussiness partners etc..) I know people like that, honestly they have either problematic Mars aspects (especially Moons-Mars) or problematic Mercury.. And I also find them to have lack of aspects with external planets.

Venus in 1st, Libra ASC and Virgo ASCs seem to be appearance wise the most beautiful creatures, especially when combined with Moon in Taurus/Gemini/Libra/Virgo.
The thing with these though is that their beauty is swallow (appearance), being irresistible is more dynamic and deep.
I know so many beautiful people who go unoticed or are considered just eye candy. And others who are even ugly objectively but they are are so charming/alluring/seductive to the majority of people.

I know it doesn't sound right/nice when someone talks about himself like I did above.
It indeed sounds very arrogant, if only you knew though how many dramatic situations I've been because of that Pluto thing though.

Once a girl who was like she was Venus in a human form came with tears in her eyes to me asking what I am doing to them.. (meaning men) she said she didn't care about others but she begged to stop doing whatever I was doing to the man she was in love with. When she showed me that man I was in such a shock, I had never ever seen him in my life.. It turned out that he was at the university as me but different classes.
I said that example because we were 22yo.
When I was in school I thought that boys liked me so much just because I looked like a woman especially body wise since I was 12yo.
So I didn't really analysed it, I thought that sexy vibe was because of my body which was like a woman's body when other girls my age seemed like kids. I had so many friends of mine suddenly completely disappearing after they found a boyfriend.. Afterwards I learned that they didn't want their boyfriends to look at me because they knew that they would fall for me. Two of those came and confessed it themselves telling me they knew it wasn't my fault and that they felt really bad for doing that to me but they couldn't help it..

I was always far from being sluty or easy..
I am not a person to "innocently" or "accidentally" touch others. I was always serious and people tend to sense it..
But this whole thing made me afraid to laugh with men ( I mean literally just laugh), I am afraid to look at them simply because they are in front of me or talking to me.
I am being silly and they find me sexy
I am being stupid and they find me sexy
I am being childish and they find me sexy
I have a cute Cancer face with innocent puppy kind of Piscean eyes but they somehow sense something dark deep and sexy.

Even my style when it comes to clothes is completely Uranus in Capricorn. I am far from being sexy after my teen years.
Women tend to think that I am a sinister witch who does something to men secretely.

I can only feel free to be myself with the one I like aso I am not afraid to exist around him and look at him and smile at him and casually touch him. Otherwise I try to be invisible as much as possible although I fail to.

I know I sound like a dramatic b*tch trying to make herself looking like she is a special human being on this earth but I can not explain you in a better way how crazy powerful this Pluto thing is and how dramatic reactions I get from people because of that. It can only be Pluto in 5th H square Venus-Mars-Jupiter conjunction. I don't have a single planet or ASC in Scorpio except of Pluto.
Pluto trines with my Mercury is 8 orbs wode which I don't know if it is even considered and aspect. And then it trines AsC (3 orbs wide) I don't think those aspects play a role though..
The only thing that can be responsible for this would be Lilith in 7th H conjunct North Node?? I don't know though if it is that important.

As for Pluto people being cold.. sometimes is right but I feel like they can not handle the intensity of their emotions so they bury them deep inside or they hide them in order to protect themselves that doesn't mean that they are not deep. In fact there is no sign/planet deeper than Scorpio/Pluto.
I've also observed that signs are "weaker" than planets in aspects. For example I have Sun in Cancer opposite Uranus and I am more Uranian compared to Aqua Suns I know when it comes to personality. I tend to see it in others too.. The aspects seem to be stronger than signs. Anybody who wants to share their opinion on this??

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Well, I did say everyone is attracted to different things and therefore not every person will always be everyone's cup of tea. I think it goes without saying that every sign/aspect/placement has its shadow side.

posted February 22, 2018 11:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Hey blue-eye soul
Will you send me your birth details?
I was completely wrong about Lilith though
I am confusing its sign with Juno
It's Juno in 7th H opposite Chiron.

Lilith is in my 6th H opposite Sun (2 orbs)
And conjunct Uranus (3 orbs).

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posted February 23, 2018 12:33 AM            

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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
OK. Email me please: Insync33 at Yahoo.

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posted February 23, 2018 03:32 AM            

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Originally posted by margym0o:
Because everyone just wants to be cool.

They think that by touting their Scorpio/Pluto/whatever placements it makes them part of this elite club where they are the most powerful beings out there and everyone else are mere peasants.

The reality is everyone is attracted to something different, otherwise there'd be a whole lot of single people running around with Pluto-less charts.

Venusian-heavy folks tend to be sweet and charming, Martian-heavy very active and engaging, Mercurial-heavy very talkative and friendly...

The irony in my opinion is the people with the most Pluto-heavy charts tend to be the most miserable and with the lowest relationship success rates, because the same energy that "lures people in" tends to ultimately push them away, either because the other person decides to leave or the native has too many of their own issues.

Pluto is a cold son-of-a-gun, and tends to make the native such as well.

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Ok now you are slandering people who did not even choose to have a plutonic chart :/
This is too childish in my opinion. Yes amateurs maybe think pluto is about being cool. So what? You can't put every one who wan't to talk about pluto and plutonic problems in the same category :/

I'm plutonic, saturnian and neptunian aswell, and I'm not cold or all those negatives you have written in your reply. I find saturn and neptune much harder to hande, pluto is easy to understand what he is all about and what he wants. In my life it has given my OCD among other bad stuff.

It's like calling all libras cheaters, or all capricorns for greedy, do you see the problem here?

posted February 23, 2018 04:17 AM            

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Originally posted by margym0o:
Well, I did say everyone is attracted to different things and therefore not every person will always be everyone's cup of tea. I think it goes without saying that every sign/aspect/placement has its shadow side.

My "issue" if you want to call it that has always been the popularity contest that goes with having any sort of Plutonian influence. This is of course coming from a Sun/Pluto, Venus/Pluto and Scorpio Moon person so I feel I have a pretty good handle on the subject

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Are you a scorpio Moon? I can't find people with Scorpio Moon or tight Pluto-Moon aspects.
Generally it feels like Scorpios are more rare to find compared to some other signs.
I would say the same goes for Taurus.
I kind of feel lucky that I attract Scorpio sun-Mercury-Mars men because my friends have never had Scorpio boyfriends (I mean generally Scorpio/Pluto charts). I want so much to meet Scorpio Moon people especially in early degrees since it will trine my Moon, Sun and AsC.

I am really curious to see your chart.
Since you have much Pluto/Scorpio you should somewhat understand what I am talking about.
Aren't you attracting others a lot?

posted February 23, 2018 05:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Are you a scorpio Moon? I can't find people with Scorpio Moon or tight Pluto-Moon aspects.
Generally it feels like Scorpios are more rare to find compared to some other signs.
I would say the same goes for Taurus.
I kind of feel lucky that I attract Scorpio sun-Mercury-Mars men because my friends have never had Scorpio boyfriends (I mean generally Scorpio/Pluto charts). I want so much to meet Scorpio Moon people especially in early degrees since it will trine my Moon, Sun and AsC.

I am really curious to see your chart.
Since you have much Pluto/Scorpio you should somewhat understand what I am talking about.
Aren't you attracting others a lot?

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I don't think two plutonians would get along well. I don't get well with plutonians friends wise, they just bring out more of that energy in me, ad it clashes, badly. Elsa elsa has written about this in her blog aswell "Is Scorpio Compatible With Scorpio?", link:

https://www.elsaelsa.com/astrology/is-scorpio-compatible-with-scorpio/

posted February 23, 2018 05:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
I don't think two plutonians would get along well. I don't get well with plutonians friends wise, they just bring out more of that energy in me, ad it clashes, badly. Elsa elsa has written about this in her blog aswell "Is Scorpio Compatible With Scorpio?", link:

https://www.elsaelsa.com/astrology/is-scorpio-compatible-with-scorpio/

Also it amazes me how few people, if any links to other astrologers in thise threads?

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Oh my God! I have never fell for someone that is not plutonian. Once I liked someone and it was intense and it feels like we communicate with our eyes.. He told me that his sign is Libra.. I was so happy that for once in my life I felt something so intense for someone who was not a scorpio... how wrong I was though.. some months later I checked his natal chart. He was a Libra with Moon, Mercury, Venus(or Mars) in Scorpio and ASC in Scorpio some of them conjunct Pluto.
I was so dissapointed.
You have Pluto in 5th H?
How are you not attracted to plutonians?

When it comes to friendships 2 of my best friends are heavy plutonian the other 2 not much really.

posted February 23, 2018 09:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:

Ok now you are slandering people who did not even choose to have a plutonic chart :/
This is too childish in my opinion. Yes amateurs maybe think pluto is about being cool. So what? You can't put every one who wan't to talk about pluto and plutonic problems in the same category :/

I'm plutonic, saturnian and neptunian aswell, and I'm not cold or all those negatives you have written in your reply. I find saturn and neptune much harder to hande, pluto is easy to understand what he is all about and what he wants. In my life it has given my OCD among other bad stuff.

It's like calling all libras cheaters, or all capricorns for greedy, do you see the problem here?

However this is loosing its course, please if you are so concerned and irritated about pluto people etc, start your own thread

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Uhh, relax. It's a public forum. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I speak from my own experience. I'm sorry if your views don't correspond with mine.

I suppose that's the problem nowadays...people get offended so easily and take everything personally *sigh*

posted February 23, 2018 09:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Are you a scorpio Moon? I can't find people with Scorpio Moon or tight Pluto-Moon aspects.
Generally it feels like Scorpios are more rare to find compared to some other signs.
I would say the same goes for Taurus.
I kind of feel lucky that I attract Scorpio sun-Mercury-Mars men because my friends have never had Scorpio boyfriends (I mean generally Scorpio/Pluto charts). I want so much to meet Scorpio Moon people especially in early degrees since it will trine my Moon, Sun and AsC.

I am really curious to see your chart.
Since you have much Pluto/Scorpio you should somewhat understand what I am talking about.
Aren't you attracting others a lot?

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Ironically I have had the opposite experience. I know a lot of other Scorpio moons and attract predominantly earth moons into my life. Pretty much everyone I have been in a relationship with has had an earth moon (Taurus currently). Friendship wise, mainly air moons (Aquarius being a common moon among females that I'm close to). Funny how that works.

posted February 23, 2018 09:51 AM            

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Originally posted by margym0o:
Uhh, relax. It's a public forum. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I speak from my own experience. I'm sorry if your views don't correspond with mine.

I suppose that's the problem nowadays...people get offended so easily and take everything personally *sigh*

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posted February 23, 2018 09:58 AM            

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Originally posted by margym0o:
Uhh, relax. It's a public forum. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I speak from my own experience. I'm sorry if your views don't correspond with mine.

I suppose that's the problem nowadays...people get offended so easily and take everything personally *sigh*

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I don't take it personally at all, and I'm not offended, I'm just reacting to your way of expressing yourself. You disliking scorpios is not my problem

Pluto is also an repulsive energy so its just normal with that kind of feelings.

Here it is discussed
"Why is scorpio repulsive?"

https://www.elsaelsa.com/astrology/why-is-scorpio-repulsive/

and "Feeling Repulsive – Pluto, Scorpio And The 8th House"

posted February 23, 2018 05:29 PM            

I once had a group of men at a restaurant I was working at call me "Mi Reina de Leonas" because apparently I had the "animal" that made people want to pounce. It's literally in a way a curse because everything I do can be interpreted as sexual or "prompting". People think they can touch me(men and women) for whatever reason.

For example, a woman in a store talks with her friend about her breasts as Im with my friend trying on clothes. I come out in a bandeau and she proceeds to cup both my breasts with her bare hands and say I want breasts like these.

Another example: my co-worker while I love her knew me all of ten minutes before she grabbed my waist with both hands and stood behind me as she was having a conversation with our other co-worker. And I was just
~All of my Lillith's are conjunct my Pluto in Scorpio exact.
~Venus Quindecile Pluto
~Venus in 8th in Taurus
~Aphrodite, Circe, Messalina, and Pallas all conjunct my Sun/MC exact-2*.
~Venus Square Mars which is in 7th house
~Mars Parallel/Sesquiquadrate Pluto
~Salome and Messalina are Contra-parellel
~Esther conjunct moon-moon parallel /trine Venus in 8th- trine Medusa in 5th.
~Salome conjunct NN
~Adonis conjunct ASC(Im a female)

posted February 23, 2018 08:06 PM            

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Originally posted by margym0o:
Ironically I have had the opposite experience. I know a lot of other Scorpio moons and attract predominantly earth moons into my life. Pretty much everyone I have been in a relationship with has had an earth moon (Taurus currently). Friendship wise, mainly air moons (Aquarius being a common moon among females that I'm close to). Funny how that works.

I am a later degree Scorpio moon unfortunately. I think when you meet someone whose moon touches yours in some way you can tell right away. When I met my sister-in-law for the first time there was an INSTANT comfort level and later when I checked our chart, we have Scorpio moons conjunct. Attracting others...well I've never had a problem attracting men, but I'm more the long-term relationship type since I prefer to develop a real bond with someone as opposed to having short-term flings. I keep my friendship circle small and intimate also.

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Hmmm.. your Moon being in late degrees (squares my Venus and Mars, trine my Mercury, conjunct Pluto) I have to see your chart to know why you attract aqua moon as friends.
Taurus and generally earth moons are nice.
I attract different moons but mainly capricorn and late gemini or early cancer.. but honestly even when I met people whom their moons conjuncted/trined mine we were in sync generally but I didn't feel anything special.
All moons are almost equally good for me (except whatever sign is square or opposite my Moon and Saturn being 5 Pisces and 5 Aqua.
and Aries or Moon-Mars aspects are a nightmare no matter the degree)

posted February 23, 2018 10:34 PM            

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Originally posted by TensionEmpire:
Ji double g so hot
That's a music on youtube, I like it.
I hear it when women try to resist me.

xD

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posted February 24, 2018 03:13 PM            

on topic:

taking in consideration that hindu writings say that women have 9 times more fire of desire within, we man have an advantage for irresistibleness

astrologically on topic:

Beeing irresistible is realy top lvl, so I guess it is not 1 aspect ot another that indicates it.
But the hole chart must be in synergy, more like an eaven chart, not specific fire or water, because, if someone is overhemingly fire, there will be people that will not like it.

posted April 28, 2018 05:17 AM            

There are so many times and so many stories.

One time, we were on the hwy, when she was sitting in the front passenger seat and the guy was driving and I'd be in the back. The guy would say he has to pull over, on the hwy, then asked me to remain seated while her and him go outside. She later told me he was professing his love for her and can't live without her. We'd only hung out with him (we go on each others dates for protection) 3 times.