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Topic: Calm in a (potential) crisis
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PixieJane Moderator Posts: 8495 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 14, 2014 08:24 PM
I would guess it's a mix of my packed 5H Sag that keeps me positive (and brave when necessary) as well as my Scorpio Jupiter, all well aspected with my sun and other planets. It's rare that I get upset over the possibility of something going wrong. Realizing that my grandmother is in her last years (when I saw her last month) is a rare exception, though I don't think anyone was able to tell how much turmoil I was going through. IP: Logged |
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posted December 14, 2014 08:55 PM
I'm an Aries Moon and Mars. I like to think that I respond well in crises. However, I'm always thinking of the worst case scenario even before it happens, so it's easy to delve in after foreseeing situations unfolding in imagined ways.IP: Logged |
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posted December 14, 2014 09:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by Supreme cT: WOW you have a nice PACKED 1st house haha yes your Correct im FAR from the average emotional coolness aquarius moon i know they say most aquas dont show much emotion in "public" i know we feel, But for me im a very upfront person my emotions get flared up a lot and i come across as passionate and loud lmao i think thats because of my sagittarius mercury i LOVE to laugh people always call me "shot out" i have an obnoxius loud laugh and like to show my real feelings in everything that i do its kind of a pain because if im sad or down everyone notices and annoys me asking me whats wrong, aqua moon in the 1st is modified a lot in my opinion because im good friends with an aquarius moon who i knew since i was like 4 years old and hes like the complete opposite of me in how he expresses his emotions he always shakes his head at me hahaa hes very self contained even how he laughs and pretty much every expression is very cool and chilled out BUT we get along great and have the same viewpoints just i express the energy differently
Lovely explanation! Thank you! It also helps me understand the 1st house better, which is something I'm constantly trying to do. I have an interesting image of your emotional nature in my head, even alongside that Sag Mercury. Picture well painted! Yes, a stellium that also include Mercury and Saturn. LOL.
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posted December 14, 2014 09:18 PM
DeepFreeze...I'm sorry for hijacking your thread. It's as if it's mine... LOL. Piscean lack of boundaries *sigh* I wanted to say, our Moons play a big role here, at least as a starting point. As a Gem Moon, I rarely shed tears on broken relationships. I've lost many friends and experienced "heartbreaks" that didn't feel like my heart actually broke. When all was said and done, I wouldn't feel much. Even when things ended with my on/off partner of 3 years, I forgot about him 2 days afterwards. Maybe shed only a single tear over him. But really, don't forget that Moon. The core of you. It doesn't like to dwell, it loves to bounce around lightly and joyfully. Alongside your other aspects, it acts as the foundation for your emotional temperament. It's just who you are. It also depends on whether the crisis is worth the aftermath... If it is, then it makes you all the more fearless. Not prone to crack. If it wasn't, then you'd feel the pressure over a potential loss, for a problem that is certainly not worth whatever damage it may cause and create. If you want something with your entire heart, then no crisis can really cloud you. Mars-Pluto on the ASC speaks of this. IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 3089 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted December 14, 2014 09:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by PisceanDream: AYEEEEEEE THAT'S ME!
I have mars-uranus conjunct and sun square pluto too IP: Logged |
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posted December 14, 2014 09:49 PM
PD It's OK. I'm not too strict about my threads. Yeah I haaaaate dwelling on things but you're right. If mars/Pluto on asc gets involved then I'll nearly die before I stop doing whatever it is I'm obsessed over. I've had relationships where like I'm DONE. But then one day three months later I'm crying and missing them. Then, back to dead inside. Gemini moon can be stressful. SCT that's crazy man!! Glad you made it. I remember my Taurus/Gemini friend once went in the ditch backwards at 60. Neither of us flinched. lol There was grass and dirt stuck in the side mirror and door handle. I guess we went on our side but landed upright. I remember looking over at him, grass and dirt flying by the drivers side window and here he is working the steering wheel looking all determined. That was so funny! I'll never forget when we came to a rest. As calm as can be he said, "Is everyone alright?" Me - "I lost my hat" Friend in the back - "I got the bowling ball" lol This story might surprise people on LL. With my reputation here. One time I went to lunch with a friend and when we came back to work I found that my car had been hit. Hard enough that it shoved it out of my spot and into another car. The car that hit mine was owned by a man without insurance. Driven by a 15 year old kid without a license. The dad was there and apologized. You'd think that I would chew them out right? Nope, I SHOOK THE GUYS HAND and told him don't worry about it. I think it was like 2 years later I got my deductible back.
Yet with my Virgo... I get all guilty feeling if I call into work. "Should I have gone?? I don't know. Maybe I can just work a half day." IP: Logged |
yellowelevator Knowflake Posts: 437 From: Michigan/Neptune Registered: Nov 2013
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posted December 15, 2014 01:02 AM
This is me....for the most part.  I'm great at pretending that I'm not freaking out or worried about stuff. And a lot of times if other people are getting frantic or nervous over something, I'm staying calm as much as I can. I'd say I have a bit of a calming effect on others, because I'm not one to be loud and boisterous and I act calm most of the time, even if inside I'm not. I have Moon and Mars in the 12th and I think this might be an indicator, because I have the tendency to appear as though nothing is bothering me and that it would take a lot to **** me off. And I control my emotions and don't always show them, or I just sensor them pretty well. They are also both trine Saturn. I also have Mercury opposite Saturn which I think is another indicator as well. Self-sensoring my words and emotions, and picking/choosing what I want to say very carefully. IP: Logged |
Gemini30 Knowflake Posts: 644 From: Los Angeles Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 15, 2014 02:19 AM
quote: Originally posted by Vajra: According to Debbi Kempton-Smith, 8th House Sun people "eat crises for breakfast." There may be something to it. Maybe strong 8th House in general?
Yup! 8th house sun here. I look forward to "Crisis moments" lol. IP: Logged |
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posted December 15, 2014 05:57 AM
quote: Originally posted by DeepFreeze: PD It's OK. I'm not too strict about my threads. Yeah I haaaaate dwelling on things but you're right. If mars/Pluto on asc gets involved then I'll nearly die before I stop doing whatever it is I'm obsessed over. I've had relationships where like I'm DONE. But then one day three months later I'm crying and missing them. Then, back to dead inside. Gemini moon can be stressful.
Is it because I have partial rights since you're renting my house? LOL, jk jk. I get what you mean. I have a more "never look back" kinda attitude but it does pop-up out of nowhere every once in a while and I can't help but look through the rearview mirror. It also depends on how things end. If it's like some bitter, broken end then "soooooooo, long". If it's more of a drifting apart or something that didn't necessarily end on bad terms or something that needed to happen, then I'm bound to reflect on it and have feeling towards it but not out of control enough to throw me out of my game. But it'll be there and hurt from time to time. Only 1 person on EARTH that I've "gone back" to. He is someone that, perhaps to this day, can compel me to lose my sh*t and operate very anxiously and erratically under crisis mode. Of course, a Cap. They always throw me off my game. But again, I do believe our Gemini Moons play a big role in this not freaking out/tripping over a "breakdown of relationships with people" . It just depends on the relationship and/or circumstance surrounding it. Sometimes you might even feel this way hypothetically, but come to realize that if it were something to actually happen, you'd react very differently. Maybe lose all that composure and calm. Nonetheless, it does need a solid basis and for you, it'd be that Pluto-ASC conjunction. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18268 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted December 15, 2014 05:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by Vajra: According to Debbi Kempton-Smith, 8th House Sun people "eat crises for breakfast." There may be something to it. Maybe strong 8th House in general?
It's like I have a double inside me who gets activated in crisis situations and behaves like I was born for it  Apart from attracting crises, there's a need for periodical transformation/crisis, like a snake shedding its skin which drives me to create one if it doesn't come from the outside. In fact, I'm not sure if I create it as in invent it, I think I'm in a constant state of crisis myself. It's a bit difficult to explain. Like being an active volcano perhaps? Sometimes erupting, but always boiling nevertheless. I managed all the crisis situations in my family because I am very composed when tough things happen. ------------------
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 20055 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 15, 2014 06:41 AM
I'm usually calm when things are "erupting socially." That's never an actual crisis in my opinion. However, with 3H Pluto, I've often had people assume I am angry when I'm not. I've been calm when I was in two car accidents where the car I was in was totalled. I was calm when I was stranded at various places in Europe with my incompetent older sister who always chose the wrong train and who proceeded to cry and fall apart until we got out of the mess. I'm never calm when my children or loved ones are ill or suffering. I may go through the motions and look normal on the surface, but I have no peace until they are better. I feel more via empathy than I do for my own sake. I think the placements in my signature explain it: ------------------ 6H Capricorn sun, 6H Aquarius Mercury, 8H Pisces moon, Leo rising IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 20055 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 15, 2014 06:45 AM
Also I have 9H Jupiter Aries and bank on luck most of the time...because I am truly lucky. That makes me calm. IP: Logged |
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posted December 15, 2014 06:49 AM
PisceanDreamYou and dem Caps!!! IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 20055 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 15, 2014 07:03 AM
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posted December 15, 2014 07:06 AM
@DF... Yep, I adore them so much but I also fear them because I know they bring about in me the strangest reactions and fears. They make me question myself but have inevitably been conducive to my growth. I've noticed that even people who don't have Capricorn on their natal that have such a strong influence on me almost ALWAYS have Capricorn in their Draconic chart. My bestest friend has her dSun in Capricorn conjunct my Karma. No surprise there... LOL.EDIT: It is worth mentioning that Capricorn is on the cusp of my 12th. And the 12th/Cap/Saturn is extremely powerful in my chart. @Faith, I also have Jupiter in the 9th. I definitely feel you with that one. I don't know what it is about a repressed Pisces whether it's buried deep in the 8th or shot down and silenced by Saturn, but it almost feels like it produces a very rigid psychological-representational split. I know EXACTLY what you're talking about when you say that you "appear" very calm when your family is sick/ill but are probably falling apart on the inside. I've experienced this exactly. I kept my tears and fears inside that I got a disgusting, severely intense migraine as a side effect of physically locking in my pain. I felt my eyes were ready to fall out of their sockets. My mom is the opposite of calm. So she often marvels at how fearless and cool I can be. I think I am generally the most emotionally composed in my family. Things erupting socially is an extreme source of stress for me, but I'd never show it. Could be all the 1st house stuff and Sun-Venus conjunction there. Physically dangerous situations, natural disasters, severe turbulence, anything physically terrifying almost never has an effect on me. IP: Logged |
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posted December 15, 2014 07:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: ^ We love her. 
Awwww, I love you guys too! Especially you and Bella!  IP: Logged |
Vajra Knowflake Posts: 1737 From: Europe Registered: Dec 2012
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posted December 15, 2014 07:11 AM
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posted December 15, 2014 07:33 AM
PDAhhhhhh OK! It's coming together now! My d-sun at 21 cap. Scorpio moon Aqua mercury/Venus/mars I'm not sure what that MEANS. LOL It's the chart of our soul or something, isn't it?
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 20055 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 15, 2014 08:42 AM
@PD quote: Yep, I adore them so much but I also fear them because I know they bring about in me the strangest reactions and fears. They make me question myself but have inevitably been conducive to my growth. [/b]
I feel the same way about Virgo luminary people. They tinker with my innermost being. It's annoying.  quote: I know EXACTLY what you're talking about when you say that you "appear" very calm when your family is sick/ill but are probably falling apart on the inside. I've experienced this exactly. I kept my tears and fears inside that I got a disgusting, severely intense migraine as a side effect of physically locking in my pain. I felt my eyes were ready to fall out of their sockets.
Oh yes. Well I'm very sorry you had to go through that. And I can relate...when my mother was dying, I was a freshman in high school. I never said one word about her condition to anyone. But I got lockjaw, and I think it was from not talking about it. I would wake up and it would take me about an hour to work my jaws loose. I got a bite plate and that didn't help. I had to manually pry my mouth open. It was as if I had an unconscious idea of, "If I say nothing about this, then it's not actually happening." And then when I was unconscious/sleeping, my mouth would physically lock. quote: Physically dangerous situations, natural disasters, severe turbulence, anything physically terrifying almost never has an effect on me.
I'm similar, though it depends on my mood and the situation. I was deeply afraid during childbirth...but it's hard to remain composed when you're mind is sharp and your body feels like it's being ripped to shreds. (I never had any painkillers.) Plus you have to worry about the baby being okay. If only I had given birth in the 50's where they knocked the women out completely until it was over. j/k, sorta.  IP: Logged |
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posted December 15, 2014 09:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by DeepFreeze: PDAhhhhhh OK! It's coming together now! My d-sun at 21 cap. Scorpio moon Aqua mercury/Venus/mars I'm not sure what that MEANS. LOL It's the chart of our soul or something, isn't it?
"The Draconic chart provides pivotal information regarding the soul's purpose. The Draconic chart in relation to parent and child and between siblings, has been a source of fascination to me for years. Members of the Australian Academy of Astrology & Cosmobiology Research Group have also researched the Draconic chart as a key topic. We have concluded that the Draconic chart can be categorised as karmic, spiritual and unconscious, with possible connections to reincarnation. It pinpoints those we draw close to us in our lifetimes, to resolve unconscious issues , which in turn connects to our state of physical and emotional health. It speaks less of free will than the basic natal chart. Through our Draconic chart we can discover how others are acutely, albeit subconsciously, aware of our soul's purpose and act accordingly -- opening life's doors and sometimes slamming them in our face. It traces where we came from (test it with parents and grandparent's charts) and where we are going (compare it with the charts of your children and soul mates). Links will be found by comparing Natal and Draconic charts, plus Draconic and Draconic. Draconic charts are also quite sensitve to transits, so compare the Draconic chart with transits of important events."
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posted December 15, 2014 09:49 AM
@Faith, aww... I know exactly what you mean. If I don't feel it then it's not real. I'm so sorry, that must have been such a traumatic experience to endure. You were so young. Childbirth is really terrifying to me. The idea freaks me out. You're a boss for going all natural. I think that would probably be the only circumstance I would panic... But I have a high tolerance for pain anyway... IP: Logged |
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posted December 15, 2014 10:19 AM
Thanks PisceanDream. IP: Logged |
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posted December 15, 2014 10:31 AM
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18268 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted December 15, 2014 06:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by Vajra: Really, LeeLoo? That's amazingly similar to my experience: The auto-pilot that takes over. It's almost as if I were stepping outside the body, and watching myself say and do things without being able to interfere. There's a dead calm in such situations. And like you, I know about that family crisis thing! As a teen, I actually once had to more or less manage the fallout of a financial meltdown in which my family lost everything, house, income, and all savings for old age my parents had made, due to my dad unfortunately deciding to stand surety for somebody else and then the thing, against all odds, imploded and he was left with a seven figure debt somebody else had created. The adults all freaked out or broke down with various illnesses and psycho problems and were unable to cope, and for some reason I was the only one left who was able to think clearly, talk with authorities, organize help to find new housing etc, and manage the general survival plan. For some reason I didn't even mind losing all those things - it seemed like a natural transformation to go through, after years of abundance now to experience poverty.That was the first time I realized not everybody stays calm in a crisis, and that some will give up or drown their sorrows. Didn't know that before. Astro stuff I think is resposible for my way of dealing with this and other crises: Sun in H8, Scorp rising, Sun sq. Pluto, Moon opp. Pluto, Aries Moon&Jupiter, Mars opp. Uranus. Like ikja, I usually beforehand think through all possible scenarios so I'm seldom surprised when things go wrong. And I always have "Plan B" ready and handy...
Unbelievable! WORD for WORD! 
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Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9947 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 17, 2014 05:59 AM
I've seen this in Moon opp Pluto.Some of my aspects placements have been mentioned Depends on the crisis. IP: Logged | |