posted December 22, 2014 05:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Choc:
I am not sure I identify with my 9th H Chiron..

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Do you relate to 8 or 10? ONE should really, really relate.

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posted December 22, 2014 06:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Did you move to a far away place and have a lot of trauma with that, G?

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No. I moved overseas twice in my life and would love to go back. It wasn't negative at all.

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posted December 22, 2014 06:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Do you relate to 8 or 10? ONE should really, really relate.

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They all do, really. Just not H9.

If I had Chiron in H1 - I easily neglect myself to care for others. I have often felt unworthy and unimportant and I seem to always be helping other people.

If I had Chiron in H2 - I've never had financial stability for long. I've gone through periods of homelessness.

If I had Chiron in H3 - I often feel misunderstood. I also was painfully shy as a child (I would not speak, only write notes) and I had issues with my clarity of speech.

If I had Chiron in H4 - I had a very difficult childhood. I was the parent, easiest way to describe it. Haven't spoken to my mother in about 18 years.

If I had Chiron in H5 - I give very sound relationship advice to other people, but my relationships are often strained. Even when I know the right course of action, I rarely have the courage to take that course until I hit some breaking point. Also, my creativity was very stifled as a child and I was frequently told I couldn't do something (too stupid, too much money, whatever).

If I had Chiron in H6 - Yes, I obsess over my health. Big time. I do have some unresolved health matters to tend to, but usually, I make it a bigger deal that it is.

If I had Chiron in H7 - I've been married three times. My parents were divorced too (my mom three times). I have big time abandonment issues.

If I had Chiron in H8 - I always find myself helping a sexual/romantic partner who ends up using me and then leaving. I am always a "convenience" to other people and once something better happens in their life, they are gone. I attract people that are very dependent.

If I had Chiron in H10 - I am ambitious, driven and have been self-employed for many years... but I go through periods of genuinely not giving a poop about my work. I am a better support person in business but I get frustrated at the lack of power and prestige.

If I had Chiron in H11 - The amount of friends that have betrayed me is staggering. I was shocked to find out some of what was being said about me and it was all unprovoked.

If I had Chiron in H12 - I always take care of others before me, to the point of exhaustion. Not just financially or romantically like stated above, but spiritually too and always at the sake of myself or my own immediate family.

Basically, I feel like a doormat. Stepped on, stomped on, kicked and abused.

posted December 22, 2014 07:48 PM            

If I did your chart for the full time I do them(3-5 days) I could help you to figure it out but it may take time.

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posted December 22, 2014 09:15 PM            

I can't remember your chart because I do so many but your list seems like a really strong dejanira.

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posted December 22, 2014 09:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Geeky

I can't remember your chart because I do so many but your list seems like a really strong dejanira.

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I don't know where it is or what it's touching. I'll have to look into that.

Thanks.

posted December 22, 2014 10:08 PM            

It is also quincunx to Nessus (Cancer 14°) sitting in H11.

If it matters (not sure it does), I have Nessus aspecting my Sun, Moon, Mercury, Uranus, Neptune & Pluto as well. Thankfully, most of those aspects are easier (sextile, semisquare, biquintile)?

Nevertheless, I have been the brunt of much abuse. Parents, classmates, boyfriends, my ex-husband, etc. Some of it was so random.

For example, when I was in 10th grade, I was sat next to a 12th grader and he was a varsity football player. I was about 100 pounds of nothing at the time, he was nearing 180. BIG DUDE. In any case, it was just after lunch so I belched and he reached over and backhanded me across the face. He literally and just out of no where assaulted me in class. I never had any conversations with this guy before that day and the only thing he said to me was "that's not lady like."

The shock of the pain... I just sat there, stunned.

That's just one example of the random nature of it all.

Edit: May be easier to show you -

posted December 22, 2014 10:21 PM            

I would say you have Dejanira very strong. Kaali and Aura may aspect it but if not,it is most likely strong, on it's own as I think Chiron is, as well.

I am very sorry, dear one. It was not YOU, but them but that is very easy to say and very hard to accept

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posted December 22, 2014 10:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Put in the orbs for everything, G.

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I will go back & edit.

posted December 22, 2014 10:36 PM            

I saw my birth time recorded on a hospital birth certificate though so I assume it's correct.

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posted December 22, 2014 10:46 PM            

You really made my night. I feel I helped you and that makes my heart feel so good!

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posted December 22, 2014 10:48 PM            

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posted December 22, 2014 10:56 PM            

You and I are Christians. God MADE the charts. We will not know WHY we had our pain. We will not know while we are on the earth but EVERY hair on one's head is numbered and known by God.

The charts are this, imo.

They show us who we are. The struggles are NOT OUR FAULT.

The gifts are just that, gifts.

Love you, Brother

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posted December 22, 2014 11:01 PM            

I have a great chart. It is one of the best ones I have seen and I have done hundreds.

However, I have one aspect which is pure hell and that is Child conjunct dejanira--exact.

The exact conjunctions are nuclear powered.

I feel that childhood abuse has dogged me for my entire life and I can't shake it.

It is my chart

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posted December 23, 2014 05:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I would have to see the whole chart, Gemini dear. Don't despair from single placements, dear one!

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Not despairing, but for an example of "pain and healing"...

In my early 20s I felt that it was my job to "fix" my significant other, or at least was called on to do so more than I would have liked. Only, they would get what they needed and then move on to the next relationship. I did eventually learn that I can't "fix" anyone, only give them the room to do so themselves. But before I learned that, I went on a "strike", refusing to fix any more until I got to keep one for my own.

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posted December 26, 2014 04:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Gemini, If you put it up, put aspect lines to Chiron and the NN please and also Dejanira and Nessus

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posted December 26, 2014 07:51 AM            

You may have a really hard time with free creative expression and my feel quite a bit of pain from this.

This may be related to having a hard time feeling a solid sense of self, so it seems very hard to put a personal expression out there, which is what creativity really is.

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