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jenny415
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posted December 27, 2014 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jenny415     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami I'm not sure who that was for ... I guess my personal expression can sometimes be hard- I creatively express myself best by how I dress and by writing. My face is extremely expressive though.

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posted December 27, 2014 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Jenny

That was for the chart Gemini put up.

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posted December 27, 2014 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jenny415     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok that's what I figured but just wanted to make sure and write u back just in case!

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posted December 27, 2014 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jenny415:
Ok that's what I figured but just wanted to make sure and write u back just in case!


In which House is your Chiron, Jenny?

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posted December 27, 2014 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jenny415     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it's the first... I have my chart posted on 2nd page. Maybe I wrong

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Ami Anne
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posted December 27, 2014 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Jenn

Your Chiron sextiles your NN and this shows you will USE your pain to further your purpose in life, just as you say!

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posted December 28, 2014 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Just a thought

You may have a really hard time with free creative expression and my feel quite a bit of pain from this.

This may be related to having a hard time feeling a solid sense of self, so it seems very hard to put a personal expression out there, which is what creativity really is.


Well, that's a direction I didn't expect

Random thoughts about that...

As a teen, I probably did have a difficult time with sense of "self". My family moved frequently, and I constantly felt the need to "reinvent" myself to adapt (thank you Pluto...). I did eventually come to terms with it by deciding on some basic levels who "me" is.

Expression is rarely a problem for me. True creativity perhaps more so. At one point, I was a music ed - voice major in college. I was not very good at writing music, but give me a melody and I had talent for arranging it. OTOH, I did have a bit of stage fright going on solo...

Anyway, it was the 5 house Chiron and romance comment that struck me. And in the last few months I've felt like it has become more important that I resolve this for reasons relating to events in my life if not also events in my chart (pMars conj nNN and nVenus perhaps, along with the approaching Chiron return).

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posted December 28, 2014 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have chiron in the 4th.

I wouldn't describe my childhood as painful. Despite all of the hardships, I felt loved and cared for by both of my parents & they are still happily in love and married.

My father has been in and out of prison unfortunately but that's another topic for another forum.

I guess I can still see chiron's wound with me and my mother having moon in our composite 8th house and my own Sun-Saturn square. We fight like crazy, but the love is unquestionable.

I guess my moon trine saturn aspect gives me a realistic interpretation. I'm sure a lot of people would have a different opinion of my overall upbringing as far as my dad's prison 'career' but I'd say that's just a small aspect of it.

Wait.. i guess the 4th rules all family ties and not just your family? if so then chiron is definitely apparent. There has been a never-ending battle with others outside of my parents and our relationship. So nevermind, chiron is definitely visible in my life. very much so actually.

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posted December 28, 2014 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for freebrainstorms     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Yanmorg:
I have chiron in the 4th.

I wouldn't describe my childhood as painful. Despite all of the hardships, I felt loved and cared for by both of my parents & they are still happily in love and married.

My father has been in and out of prison unfortunately but that's another topic for another forum.

I guess I can still see chiron's wound with me and my mother having moon in our composite 8th house and my own Sun-Saturn square. We fight like crazy, but the love is unquestionable.

I guess my moon trine saturn aspect gives me a realistic interpretation. I'm sure a lot of people would have a different opinion of my overall upbringing as far as my dad's prison 'career' but I'd say that's just a small aspect of it.

Wait.. i guess the 4th rules all family ties and not just your family? if so then chiron is definitely apparent. There has been a never-ending battle with others outside of my parents and our relationship. So nevermind, chiron is definitely visible in my life. very much so actually.


This is super interesting, I have chiron in 4th and my moon is also trine my neptune i also felt loved by both parents as well and they're still both happily married. My dad also has prison in his background but the circumstances were political in nature.

The only way I see this manifesting is I did have to grow up fairly fast and for a few years I felt like I shared the responsibility of parenting with my parents due to issues with my sibling. I am extremely family oriented and I feel as if from an early age they treated me as if I was more mature than I was in age - which is something I've always enjoyed actually.

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posted December 28, 2014 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for freebrainstorms     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron in Gemini: "There can be early injuries to the voice, or painful shyness that comes from an early problem with self-expression"

This is so true, I went to speech therapy for the first 10 years of my life, was horribly shy and still have a hard issues with expressing myself through my voice.
http://www.aquarianage.org/west/planets/ch-nat01.html

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posted December 28, 2014 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You feel "comfortable" with pain as if it is almost a natural part of you like breathing. Do you relate?


yes. I relate! I feel "home" in and with pain.

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posted December 28, 2014 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jo B     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Chiron in Pisces in the 5th house OPPOSITE a stellium of 4 planets in Virgo - Sun, Mercury, Uranus and Pluto in the 11th. I guess maybe that's why my love life is often difficult/stormy.
On the plus side it trines my Neptune in Scorpio which is at the heart of a T-square of fixed planets involving moon and venus.

Any idea what that signifies?

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posted December 28, 2014 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jenny415     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess that gives purpose to the pain and echoes this : http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/014116.html
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Wow Jenn

Your Chiron sextiles your NN and this shows you will USE your pain to further your purpose in life, just as you say!



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posted December 28, 2014 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jo B:
I have Chiron in Pisces in the 5th house OPPOSITE a stellium of 4 planets in Virgo - Sun, Mercury, Uranus and Pluto in the 11th. I guess maybe that's why my love life is often difficult/stormy.
On the plus side it trines my Neptune in Scorpio which is at the heart of a T-square of fixed planets involving moon and venus.

Any idea what that signifies?


I will just talk about the opposition because I would really need to study the chart more to talk more about the T square.

I think there may be pain with letting go/creativity and you may fight the letting go with other parts of yourself such as war with yourself about your creativity.

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posted December 28, 2014 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Jenn. You do use your pain to heal others and the chart shows this!

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posted December 30, 2014 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheresthemoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wanted to comment on this after reading Eminem's chart. If you know anything about this singer, you know he is very vocal about the pain and trauma of his early life. In literally all of his albums he talks about his painful childhood, which include his mom's drug problems and what sounds like sexual abuse from either his father or a father figure. He even made a movie about his life which shows some of the details of this. I noticed yesterday while looking at his chart he has Chiron in the fourth house!

Interesting...

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posted January 01, 2015 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yes, Jenn. You do use your pain to heal others and the chart shows this!


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posted January 01, 2015 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about Chiron conjunct Mercury in the 7th (Taurus)?

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posted January 01, 2015 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by margym0o:
How about Chiron conjunct Mercury in the 7th (Taurus)?

Pain with communication.

This could be something like a learning disability, a stutter or something of this nature, even extreme shyness.

Do any of these fit, M?

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posted January 01, 2015 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I should do a NN article like this. People seem to like the Chiron one a lot!

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