posted December 30, 2014 02:57 AM            

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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
I actually feel that Venus has a lot more to do with your fashion sense, just because it's about taste. What you like, what you don't like, what you value and see as beautiful.

I think the Ascendant is how you behave, how you carry and project yourself. But, not necessarily your style unless Venus aspects the Ascendant. It can influence your dress somewhat because how you project yourself can get tied up in that. But, I think Venus is the bigger influence there.

However, that is just my opinion.

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I agree.Venus does denote what one finds beautiful and tasteful.

But have you ever walked into a shop and had your friend asssit you in picking out something to wear?

They will pick something very nice and tasteful for you(based on their Venus expression)But when you look at their own style of dressing. You wonder why they are not as conscious of what looks good on them as much as they are of what looks good on you?

This could be the Chiron-Venus or Chiron-Asc effect or whatever. But my point is that Venus does denote what is tasteful. The house that Venus is in however,is where the preferences will be most notable.

So if the individual has Venus conjunct 1st house cusp,they will be much more self-aware and image conscious. They may even know what looks good on them but not be that skilled in picking things out for others. Because the 1st house is about the self after all.

However, someone with Venus in 7th will instinctively know what looks good on others. They will often pick things or have a flair for knowing what suits someone else.

But they themselves will need assistance and continuous feedback on what looks good on them. They will struggle to decide because the 7th house is about "the other" and the 1st house is about the self.

If the 1st house ruler is in the 12th house, they may even believe that they are not pretty enough/handsome enough to pull off a certain look. They may even dress in a very underrated way. This despite Venus being in a dignified sign of Libra/Taurus.

posted December 30, 2014 02:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Supreme cT:
I agree with venus having the biggest influence on style im a venus in sagittarius and i like a sporty more athletic type of look which is another reason why i like to workout

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Does Venus aspect the 1st house cusp?

I recall you saying that you have Aquarius Asc? I think...

posted December 30, 2014 03:00 AM            

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Originally posted by YellowGerbera:
My Venus in Aries trines my Asc so I think you're right! my tomboy athletic looks must be influenced by my Venus.

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If Venus aspects the Asc, it will definitely have an impact.

posted December 30, 2014 03:02 AM            

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Originally posted by florence:
I struggled to think of my style as I've an ideal and an actual

but, I've Uranus in 1st and am often asked if I'm unconventional in dress sense which I'm not although funnily enough I realised recently my casual clothes do tend to be covered in paint so I have become that way. I must be like the hobo version of Uranus here. I do also like to find clothing which no one else has.

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posted December 30, 2014 03:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Jo B:
My first house is a bit of Libra and mostly scorpio. I have neptune in the first.

When I dress to go out (or perform) I like skinny jeans/leggings (usually black leggings) with long tops that cover my butt, knee-high leather black boots and jackets. If I'm playing the tops will probably be a bit glittery or sequiny lol. I don't like to reveal too much skin really, maybe a hint of cleavage, but I like clothes to show off my shape. I like chunky jewelry like cuffs, dangly earrings and rings, not necessarily expensive though, it's more the look I go for than how much it costs.

I tend to go for dark base clothes with a flash of colour - red, blues, golds - to brighten it up a bit. Guess that's my scorpio "darkness".

At home I just like comfy, loose clothes, never wear makeup when I'm not working or playing, unless I'm on a date.

Oh, I NEVER EVER wear pretty dresses, unless they are a long tunic slinky types (with leggings) or shortish skirts.

A psychic said once that my colour was a tealy sort of blue colour (well she showed me a blue color on her wallpaper and it looked sort of teal to me!)

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Is Neptune conjunct the 1st house cusp? If not,what house does Neptune rule?

posted December 30, 2014 03:13 AM            

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Originally posted by ikja:
Not too sure about Venus being the only influencer. I would say that I am also influenced by my sun sign, Gemini.

I like boyish things and girlie things too. I will always find a way to make a boyish outfit sparkle or sexy e.g. wear an oversized jumper but with pointy flats or pointy mid heels.

Saying that, I do like things that are comfortable, but at the same time, I like large earrings, bags, necklaces, scarves.

When it comes to my girlie/party side, I like simple things again, like a bodycon dress. Not too many layers or things that have to co-ordinate.

Maybe my style is influenced by my Venus in Taurus a little bit actually,because I like simple clothing (but with a lot of bling (my Gemini side)).

I do not have any planets in my first house. My Asc is Scorpio (on the subject of Scorpios and colour...I cannot tell you how many LBDs I have!)

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Where is the ruler of the 1st house located? Are there aspects to the ruler of the 1st house cusp?

How did the recent Saturn transit influence your external appearance(if at all)? Especially since it did(at some point) oppose your natal Venus.

Venus as I said is the influence of taste. It it the base planet where one find expression of what one likes.Even ones own confidence.

But where Venus is placed is where that expression will be most notable.The house where Venus is in.

A Venus in Gemini in 5th will feel most attractive,most sexy when they are expressing their creativity or have a platform to do so.

posted December 30, 2014 03:18 AM            

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Originally posted by mamawolf:
Taurus and Jupiter. Chart ruler conjuncts Uranus and Saturn.

In high school I would never wear the same style clothing two days in a row...i wore what I was feeling that day. Now I have a more steady style. If its not comfortable, my personality isnt comfortable. I like flowy shirts and tribal prints a lot. It's earthy but adventurous.

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1st house cusp is Taurus with Jupiter there. Does Jupiter conjunct the 1st house cusp?

You also mentioned that the chart ruler-Venus- conjunct Uranus and Saturn.

Well if Jupiter does not conjunct the 1st house cusp, you may - together with Venus-Uranus-Saturn conjunct-also look to what house Jupiter rules.

posted December 30, 2014 03:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Southern Sun:
I can't decide what looks good so I usually just go f it and wear whatever, as long as it's comfortable. Venus is in a wide square with my ASC; Jupiter opp ASC; Saturn & Neptune are in 1st; Uranus conjunct ASC. Results may vary!

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Venus in wide sqaure to Asc cusp, Jupiter in opposition to Asc cusp abd Uranus conjunct Asc cup. Results defintely vary

Your "not knowing what looks good on you" is that Jupiter opposing the 1st house cusp. That suggest that Jupiter is in the 7th right?

posted December 30, 2014 03:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
I have Moon in the 1st house. I dress however I feel like dressing. It makes sense.

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Is the Moon conjunct 1st house?

posted December 30, 2014 03:34 AM            

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Hi- Jupiter and Mercury in Leo 1st house
Venus in Cancer 11th

I love expensive perfumes. And I love real diamonds, pearls, etc. So I often wear small or not at all. I only wear dresses and skirts. My thing these days is a high waistline dress with a pair of ballet flats, and a beautiful pashmina (scarf) draped around my shoulders. When I wear make up I usually only work with my eyes. I try to take care of my skin and play up my youthful look.

I also have a country look for when I'm gardening or taking care of random farm animals..... I had my mom sew me some very broad and long Amish, or 19th century style skirts. I wear those and mud boots when I'm working outside.

Once in a while when I go out with friends, I wear skinny jeans and so on, but then I like to wear really high heels (4-6 inches) not sure why...

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You seem to LOVE dressing up

Is Mercury-Jupiter conjunct the 1st house cusp?

My guess is NO. They probably don't aspect each other either.Because if they did, it would make one overdress/under-dress. Striking a balance would be difficult.

The ruler of your 2nd house(Virgo) I assume is Mercury.Mercury is located in the 1st. This explains your love of jewellery,perfume and accessories.

The 2nd house ruler is in the 1st house- which suggests someone who likes to display jewels,accessories and expensive perfume(2nd house)on themselves(1st).

The ruler of your 5th house(Jupiter) is also in the 1st -which suggests that you love to express yourself with your appearance/ clothes.

This explains why you may have clothes for every occasion. Especially those heels

posted December 30, 2014 06:33 AM            

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This is what I find very strange with my Virgo friend. I am guessing his birth time must be a little off because he has Pluto conjunct Saturn in 1st but LOVES to wear for show.

I don't see the mix anywhere when it comes to how he dresses. So i am guessing his birth time must be wrong??

But then again, Ruler of the 2nd house(Pluto) is in the 1st. So this can suggest someone who adorns themselves with their valuables?

THIS IS SO TRUE with this guy!!!! Loves accessories that crowd his neck,casual hats,rings and bracelets.

And ruler of the 5th house is also in 1st. This suggests someone who likes to get attention by the way they look. ABSOLUTELY!!

But I thought that once a planet sits in a house,it kinda "takes over" that house. Especially if in the 1st.Or must it be conjunct the house cusp to be effective???

Coz it seems apparent that the house that it rules still brings its "energy" to the place where the planet is located. Well at-least in his case.Hmmm.

Saturn in 1st I would assume,would give one a very formal way of dressing.Someone who sticks to basics.This person may even like formal wear or a "uniform" style of dressing.This is not him.

The fact that your Pluto conjuncts the Libra 1st house cups suggests its influence is major. His Saturn and Pluto are conjunct near the end of the 1st house cusp.

But out of curiosity, what house does Pluto rule in your chart?

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Pluto rules my second house.

But if we consider Venus as a major influence. Mine is Virgo in the 12th.

posted December 30, 2014 07:07 AM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Pluto rules my second house.

But if we consider Venus as a major influence. Mine is Virgo in the 12th.

Actually, PD once pointed out that with Venus ruling Taurus/Libra and Mercury ruling Virgo/Gemini. If we go with that, my 1st, 7th, 8th, 9th, and 12th rulers are in the 12th, Virgo. (Mercury, Mars, Venus)

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Hmmm.Let's analyze.

Pluto in 1st may prefer not to draw attention. The conjunct of Pluto to your 1st house cusp explains that bit.

But Pluto rules the 2nd house. And the 2nd house is about valuables. And I would assume that if the ruler of the 2nd is in the 1st house, the person likes wearing jewellery or shiny ornaments. Even good-smelling perfume. Sound like you?

In the 2nd case,the ruler of your 1st house cusp Libra is Venus and that is in the 12th house. This means someone who dresses to hide themselves or doesn't want to stand out(12th).

And you did mention that you don't like drawing attention to yourself.

But this introversion can be greatly mitigated if the ruler(Venus)/Asc itself is aspected by a planet that rules 5th,7th,9th and 10th.Either by trine or sextile. This pushes you to be more "out there" than "in here" so to speak. So you may dress to stand out now and then.

I am seeing that the ruler of the house still has an influence. Even if there are planets therein. But I'll investigate this further.

posted December 30, 2014 08:31 AM            

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Where is the ruler of the 1st house located? Are there aspects to the ruler of the 1st house cusp?

How did the recent Saturn transit influence your external appearance(if at all)? Especially since it did(at some point) oppose your natal Venus.

Venus as I said is the influence of taste. It it the base planet where one find expression of what one likes.Even ones own confidence.

But where Venus is placed is where that expression will be most notable.The house where Venus is in.

A Venus in Gemini in 5th will feel most attractive,most sexy when they are expressing their creativity or have a platform to do so.

If they also happen to be dressed in a way that enhances that confidence(perhaps Mercury being the ruler of the 5th aspecting the 1st house cusp Asc by trine) they may even go as far as attracting romantic interest and advances.Its no doubt that they will be very popular.

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posted December 30, 2014 08:47 AM            

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Hmmm.Let's analyze.

Pluto in 1st may prefer not to draw attention. The conjunct of Pluto to your 1st house cusp explains that bit.

But Pluto rules the 2nd house. And the 2nd house is about valuables. And I would assume that if the ruler of the 2nd is in the 1st house, the person likes wearing jewellery or shiny ornaments. Even good-smelling perfume. Sound like you?

In the 2nd case,the ruler of your 1st house cusp Libra is Venus and that is in the 12th house. This means someone who dresses to hide themselves or doesn't want to stand out(12th).

And you did mention that you don't like drawing attention to yourself.

But this introversion can be greatly mitigated if the ruler(Venus)/Asc itself is aspected by a planet that rules 5th,7th,9th and 10th.Either by trine or sextile. This pushes you to be more "out there" than "in here" so to speak. So you may dress to stand out now and then.

I am seeing that the ruler of the house still has an influence. Even if there are planets therein. But I'll investigate this further.

Very interesting....

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Maybe this will help.
Several minor asepcts to asc.

Also, other aspects to asc.

Mars conjunct from 12th.
Saturn sextile from 10th.
Neptune sextile from 3rd.
Jupiter trine from 8th.
Moon square from 9th.

posted December 30, 2014 09:13 AM            

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I also have Venus/Saturn conjunct.This does influence ones taste or "pick" when it comes to what one likes.

But don't you think that the house that Venus/Saturn are in is where this display of preference will be at?

A person can have Venus/Saturn conjunct in 3rd. This expression of this preference may be that the person picks tasteful(Venus) quality(Saturn)books to read(3rd).

Or the individual has got a very sweet(Venus)but authoritarian(Saturn) voice(3rd).

But say the same individual has Leo Asc with Sun(ruler) in the 5th house.

Much creative expression will go into the wardrobe or looking good. As such I do not see this person trying their best to hide away with dark colours. Unless there is a theme they are "channeling" etc.

What is the ruler of your 1st house cusp and where is it situated?

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posted December 30, 2014 09:19 AM            

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1. Ruler of 1st house (Pluto) is located in my 12th house.
2. Venus is opposite Ascendant and 1st house ruler (in 12th)
3. Saturn made me more aware of my physical appearance and the fact that I am getting older and need to start eating better.
4. My 5th house ruler is Aries. Does it aspect the 1st house? Yes, it Sesqisquares my ascendant.

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Ruler of 1st house in 12th usually chooses clothes without the "flash". Standing out is not the aim.

I usually attribute the obsession with accessories with the ruler of the 2nd house being in a good aspect with either the Asc or its ruler.

But I see that Venus opposes both the Asc in Scorpio and its ruler Pluto.

I have to mention something that I have been pondering about "feminine" planets in so-called "masculine" signs/ "feminine" signs in "masculine" planets as well as oppositions between the two.

Have you considered that opposition is essentially trying to "merge" two differing worlds together in a harmonious fashion. Look for perhaps "middle ground" and balance?

I find that with my Merc/Moon opposition, I try to merge reason(Merc)and feelings(Moon) into an agreement when I talk. I try not to go for one or the other.

So in this case Scorpio is masculine( co-ruled by Mars/ ruled by Pluto ruled). And many things that I have noticed with women who have Moon in Aries/Scorpio(mostly) , is that they are not shy of doing work/jobs that are traditionally assigned to the opposite sex.

So going back to you,could the opposition of Venus(Taurus) and Asc/Pluto(Scorpio) suggests that you are essentially looking to "merge" two gender qualities? Hence your love for both girl/boy identified styles of dressing?

So you may "butch" a girl outfit, by adding a leather jacket or insisting on as little frolics and layers as possible?

Or you may "feminize" a masculine jumpsuit by adding flirty accessories?

I don't know if you know of Angelina Jolie's infamous leather gown she wore once at some award show?

I immediately realized that it was her Moon in Aries that may have wanted to take something as hard,cold and inflexible as leather.And turn it into something feminine.

Gemini energy of-course contributes to this-as Gemini likes to play around with rigid gender identities a lot.So does Pisces/Libra and to a certain extent Taurus(I think of Taurus as the quintessential "drag queen" actually)

posted December 30, 2014 09:36 AM            

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Maybe this will help.
Several minor asepcts to asc.

Also, other aspects to asc.

Mars conjunct from 12th.
Saturn sextile from 10th.
Neptune sextile from 3rd.
Jupiter trine from 8th.
Moon square from 9th.

Venus (ruler of my first)
Conjunct Mercury very loosely.
Square Neptune

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That Mars conjunct Asc would shake things up a bit.But not when its in the 12th Its energy is frustrated there.

It could suggest that one second-guesses their decisions a lot. The Moon square aspect supports this. The heart(Moon) finds it difficult to agree with one's external expression consistently.

The addition of Saturn/Neptune by sextile suggests that the modest look gets support. Both Saturn and Neptune are shy.

Even Jupiter(Pisces traditional ruler) adds to the mix by "trining" the Asc cusp.

The good news here however is that people often receive you well. Even when it wasn't your intention to "stand out". Jupiter is the benefactor after all.

But my attention goes towards the Asc ruler(Venus).As it has already been suggested that its influence enjoys dominion over others.

posted December 30, 2014 09:40 AM            

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I agree with you. But I think it's the harsh aspect between Venus and Saturn that acts as this game spoiler and also, I've Saturn involved in 2 Grand Cross in my chart, so maybe that's why it's exaggerates the effect of opposition. I've 4th house Saturn and 9th house Venus. I love wearing somber and regal dresses, that have an air of authority, but it's one that's carried too far.

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posted December 30, 2014 10:24 AM            

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This makes absolute sense. The ruler of the 1st house(Venus) also being in the 1st house suggests someone who is preoccupied with apperances.

My ex Asc Gemini did not have Venus in its own house,but he did have Venus(Gemini) conjunct his 1st house cusp: He LOVED fashion and dressing up.

The ruler of his 1st house(Mercury) was in the 11th.He dressed to fit in with the group. He loved his friends/cliques and associating with larger groups of people also.

Somehow they would all dress in a similar fashion to show "uniformity". I found this ironic since the 11th house is said to be associated with Aquarius and Uranus-masters of independent thinking and being "different".

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Glad it helped ya.

He sounds like me with the loving to be around larger cliques/groups and friends. It's fun I just get wiped out after a while.

posted December 30, 2014 10:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
That Mars conjunct Asc would shake things up a bit.But not when its in the 12th Its energy is frustrated there.

It could suggest that one second-guesses their decisions a lot. The Moon square aspect supports this. The heart(Moon) finds it difficult to agree with one's external expression consistently.

The addition of Saturn/Neptune by sextile suggests that the modest look gets support. Both Saturn and Neptune are shy.

Even Jupiter(Pisces traditional ruler) adds to the mix by "trining" the Asc cusp.

The good news here however is that people often receive you well. Even when it wasn't your intention to "stand out". Jupiter is the benefactor after all.

But my attention goes towards the Asc ruler(Venus).As it has already been suggested that its influence enjoys dominion over others.

Its square aspect to slower moving Neptune is potent. And this could be the "stamp" of the 12th house signature. why you prefer modest colours to bright ones and why it is never your intention to call stares upon yourself.

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posted December 30, 2014 10:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
You seem to LOVE dressing up

Is Mercury-Jupiter conjunct the 1st house cusp?

My guess is NO. They probably don't aspect each other either.Because if they did, it would make one overdress/under-dress. Striking a balance would be difficult.

The ruler of your 2nd house(Virgo) I assume is Mercury.Mercury is located in the 1st. This explains your love of jewellery,perfume and accessories.

The 2nd house ruler is in the 1st house- which suggests someone who likes to display jewels,accessories and expensive perfume(2nd house)on themselves(1st).

The ruler of your 5th house(Jupiter) is also in the 1st -which suggests that you love to express yourself with your appearance/ clothes.

This explains why you may have clothes for every occasion. Especially those heels

Work it honey!!! Work it!!!

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I love your feedback Aries23. It's so fun and interesting, and I learn a lot. I am a big believer in accessories. I go for simple beautiful lines in my clothes, and then add the perfect scarf, jewelry piece, handbag, or shoes. That's my 2nd house ruler in my 1st house, right?

I do express myself through my clothes- my 5th house ruler in my 1st house. Although I am very athletic (I have studied martial arts all my life and I get a crazy thrill from mixed martial arts fighting, boxing, etc) I LOVE looking and feeling girly. When I am not fighting (lol), I feel really soft and gentle. One of my favorite things to do when I am sitting in a dress is to rub my knees together- LOL!!! I know- weird!
Anyway, I like my clothes to communicate how I feel.

But guess what! Mercury/Jupiter/Asc are all conjunct. I am not above under-dressing, but I am probably more often guilty of overdressing. I have this urge to look like a princess, queen, empress. I am serious. It is the weirdest compulsion, but I have a need to look regal- I guess this is when I am feeling less soft, more aggressive, but still always feminine...I will wear longer skirts and dresses, high heels (4 inches max on a regular day), a poofier scarf around my neck, and a serious look that says 'I'm in charge of something' LOL!

posted December 30, 2014 11:11 AM            

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Aries23, you didn't tell us about you! Unless I missed it...It's your turn

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I am an observer.

To be honest,I get more from your input than the other way around. Believe me.

But if I can be brief; My Asc cusp squares the Moon,Mercury and opposes Mars.

The ruler of the Asc is wedged between house 6/7.Depending on the system I use.

Mars-the ruler- squares Moon,Mercury but sextiles Jupiter.

I have always been very body conscious(1st house ruler in 6th). It has sometimes gotten to an excess point(Pluto is wedged in there as well).

I tend to dress to allow freedom of movement.So I avoid things that are too restrictive. I especially love shoes that are comfy.

I think that with the current Uranus transit conjunct my 1st house cusp,I am paying more attention to how I look.As Uranus also opposes Mars(Asc ruler) and interacts with the T-square,my perspective on my image is undergoing a shift.

I think that that could be the reason I started this thread.

And BTW,that conjunct of Mercury/Jupiter on the Asc, the good news is that innovation is always a possibility. There are too many ways of looking at things that feeling "limited" is not likely.

I just happen to know someone who has the opposition of Mercury and Jupiter. She is Taurus Sun and she comes across strongly intellectual.

I often hear her complaining that she finds it hard to decide what to wear.She doesn't like shopping either. It can very stressful for her; so many choices.

Her Asc in Virgo ruler(Mercury) opposes Jupiter.She'll call her brother who grudgingly agrees to help her choose what to wear and even go far as helping her shop.

I told her that she should coordinate her outfits in advance or window shop a lot more. This gives her some time to decide what she wants,shift changes here and there-instead of starting from scratch.

I don't know if she took my advice.But she doesn't spend as much time "figuring out" what to wear anymore.

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Moon conjunct the asc. Moon in 1st. Ruler of the 1st in the 2nd using placidus elsewhere in other house systems.
My style really does depend on my mood.

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Oh yes