posted January 11, 2015 03:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
That is why I said I feel that you are at the mercy of your emotions.Eventually the up/down motions do become a sort of "drug" and fix.

Moon in Cancer can also be the drama queen. most of it very self-created of course.

#sidenote: You are with an Aries moon? Yikes!! With Aquarius placements too? Wowza

I tend to avoid both for relationships.

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Haha I've been called a drama queen numerous times. I'm sure I am one but I have a hard time seeing it because to me it's all caused by something it seems like.

posted January 11, 2015 05:34 AM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
Haha I've been called a drama queen numerous times. I'm sure I am one but I have a hard time seeing it because to me it's all caused by something it seems like.

Yeah. Omg do go on. Why do you avoid them? I need your insight-fullness!

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This is all in a very superficial light of-course.

Aries tends to have a very "me" approach to things that my Mars in Libra tends to cringe at.

But I must add that if there are conjunctions to natal Venus/Mars or other "mitigating" factors, the Moon in this position can be bearable.

I especially like Aries/Taurus cusp ones. they seem to be a little more "grown" than the earlier ones IME.

Now with Aquarius, its a win/lose sometimes.

I love their intellect and the attraction to a Venus/Mars conjunct in Aquarius at one point,was real intense for me.

But Aquarius usually aspects my personal planet Venus/Mars.So they leave me wanting "more" but fail to deliver.

The ones born on the cusp of Aqu/Pis don't do anything much for me.But at the same time,I don't run into many.

posted January 11, 2015 06:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
This is all in a very superficial light of-course.

Aries tends to have a very "me" approach to things that my Mars in Libra tends to cringe at.

But I must add that if there are conjunctions to natal Venus/Mars or other "mitigating" factors, the Moon in this position can be bearable.

I especially like Aries/Taurus cusp ones. they seem to be a little more "grown" than the earlier ones IME.

Now with Aquarius, its a win/lose sometimes.

I love their intellect and the attraction to a Venus/Mars conjunct in Aquarius at one point,was real intense for me.

But Aquarius usually aspects my personal planet Venus/Mars.So they leave me wanting "more" but fail to deliver.

The ones born on the cusp of Aqu/Pis don't do anything much for me.But at the same time,I don't run into many.

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Aries moon thing is definitely true. I cant blame him because I don't think he can see outside of his immediate situation. Which is similar to cancer moon but Aries moon lacks the receptiveness and ability to pick up on others emotions. But I love him. And Aries moon is hard to love lol. Cancer moon what's security and validation, I feel like Aries moon is in love only for the moment.

posted January 11, 2015 07:30 AM            

A relationship ended and I found out that the person I loved felt he moved over too quickly from his ex girlfriend.

At this point, I ended up messaging the ex girlfriend asking her questions. In my defence, it wasn't a disrespectful email... It was actually rather genuine.

Even though he swore blind that it was over when we were together. A few months after, I found out that they were together (after doing a bit of online stalking).

At this point, I ended up going to his house and it ended in TEARS!!!!!!!!!

We stopped speaking, but I still stalked online to see what was going on *sigh*

Aspects to blame:
Aries Moon
Scorpio Ascendant & Pluto
Taurus Venus
Venus opposite Pluto

posted January 11, 2015 07:49 AM            

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Originally posted by ikja:
Soooo... What have I done?

A relationship ended and I found out that the person I loved felt he moved over too quickly from his ex girlfriend.

At this point, I ended up messaging the ex girlfriend asking her questions. In my defence, it wasn't a disrespectful email... It was actually rather genuine.

Even though he swore blind that it was over when we were together. A few months after, I found out that they were together (after doing a bit of online stalking).

At this point, I ended up going to his house and it ended in TEARS!!!!!!!!!

We stopped speaking, but I still stalked online to see what was going on *sigh*

Aspects to blame:
Aries Moon
Scorpio Ascendant & Pluto
Taurus Venus
Venus opposite Pluto

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Asc and Pluto in Scorpio- "I am all in" for this.For ill or ecstasy.

Venus opposite Pluto- obsessions and even stalking. Taurus and Scorpio can hold on when it would be better to just let go.

Difference is that Taurus often wants to be "polite" about it.Hoping that things will change and the person will realize the "error of their ways" and return.

Scorpio doesn't forgive people who walk out of their life. Its like they live out their worst fear-REJECTION. And go about wanting to either destroy themselves or the person. Quite hectic.

The confrontation and going to his house That is all Aries Moon "Just tell me what is going on please" openness.

posted January 11, 2015 07:59 AM            

The Taurus Venus and Scorpio Pluto. Definitelt one of the hardest aspects I have! Always feels/felt like a constant battle.

posted January 12, 2015 12:00 PM            

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Originally posted by VestaFlake:
moon opp. venus both squaring pluto here. so it's moon-venus-pluto t-square with pluto at the apex. I'm very sensitive and if my sense of judgement is violated I tend to avenge. On my last break up, it was a nasty rollercoster, we both did many bad things yet stuck together for 1,5 years. Until one night at the bar, he was mocking me as he always did, I suddenly packed my bag and left him. He came after me and the moment he touched me, I suddenly threw him into a supermarket (moon trine mars/ mars square uranus), we made quite a mess there. Then he tried to attack me and other folks at the street gave him a good lesson. He chased me via internet good deal and I blocked his each possible channel.

Things are better now with my new relationship. We both are intense (he is a scorp asc. and many planets in scrop/12th house) but also very personal space-concerned(his sun is sag). We experience intensity and respect harmoniously which is like a remedy for both of us. But I'm concerned as well

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Wow. That is hectic.

Moon/Venus opposite.Bends over backwards for the relationship especially when Venus is in Libra,Taurus,Pisces.

Moon/Pluto square.Emotions tend to buildup to an explosive and often self-transforming release.Especially when Pluto is in Scorpio

Venus/Pluto square.Power struggles and/or power games tend to undermine any closeness that might be had. Especially when Pluto is in Scorpio.

I don't think its possible to remove the "drama" form your relationships.Pluto touching both Moon/Venus suggests that it is the energy of this planet that makes relationships worthwhile.

posted January 12, 2015 05:01 PM            

Yes that's why I'm concerned. His venus conj. pluto squares his moon. Since it resembles my natal- except for the opposition- he may be more likely to tolerate my emotional heaviness.

posted January 12, 2015 11:19 PM            

Stage 1 - Relentless texting, calling and e-mailing. He wouldn't answer, so I would leave voice messages.

Stage 2 - Once he started ignoring those, I went into creating a twitter feed and tweeting him every day "how much I still love you" kind of tweets.

Stage 3 - When he ignored that, I set up a blog to dump my feelings on. I e-mailed him the web link, of course.

Stage 4 - I started recording audio of me telling him how how I feel, explaining how confused I was, how much he hurt me etc. and e-mailing those mp3 files. I thought if he would just listen and hear my pain, he would GET IT.

Stage 5 - Revenge sex because I had heard the best way to get over someone was to get under someone else. (it's not true, BTW)

I slept around (a lot) and let him know. I took a photo of one encounter and texted it to him. This is when he finally said, "I don't love you. in fact, I never ****ing loved you! Do you get it now?"
(it felt like my life was over)

Up until that point, he led me on with hope. "I just need a little space"... "I've just been depressed" type of stuff.

Stage 6 - "Let's be friends with benefits" attempts. He rejected this and I finally gave up.

Throughout the stages, I cyber-stalked him and looked at his photos constantly. He was active in a band, so I would go to his music page and listen to the tracks where he did vocals just to hear his voice. I watched all of the tv shows we watched together, the movies we watched together and listened to the songs that meant something to us and cried.

I sent him Christmas & birthday presents.

I made him soup when I learned he was sick and turned up uninvited at his house to deliver (he accepted that, btw, and wrote me a sweet thank you note).

I obsessed about this guy every single day for two straight years. I cried nearly every day. I lost my job at the time. I was basically a mess.

Once I had *finally* moved on with a new person (the person I am now married to), he called me and wanted to have the "friends with benefits" arrangement I had earlier offered. When I shot him down, I ensured 3 straight days of the most horrific and threatening texts you could imagine. The name-calling cut me deep and the insults were perfectly targeted.

My hubby (boyfriend at the time) left work early to stay with me one day for fear of my safety. I ended up changing my number. I considered moving.

After some time, I messaged him & I asked if we could be platonic friends. He agreed, but asked for a bit of time. A few months later, I learned he had a new woman and had moved in with her (rather quickly too). So I sent him a "Merry Christmas, this day is still special to me" note because we met on Christmas night in 2010.

That was the last message I sent.

I think about him often and I doubt he ever gives me a second thought.

edit: He is the ONLY person to ever provoke such a strong response because he is the only person I ever truly loved 100%. With everyone else before him, I always had a "back up plan" in my back pocket. I always had my exit strategy in mind and although I wouldn't cheat, I was never 100% fully committed in my heart. And this is why... because I knew it would destroy me.

posted January 13, 2015 01:08 PM            

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Originally posted by VestaFlake:
venus-leo
moon-aqua
pluto-scorpio.

Yes that's why I'm concerned. His Venus conj. Pluto squares his moon. Since it resembles my natal- except for the opposition- he may be more likely to tolerate my emotional heaviness.

And about drama, yes it never goes away, I'm wishing my life to be something like Trumanshow, the movie.

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Venus Leo-Pluto Sco square cries for incredible attention and sensitivity to its needs.

Moon Aqua-Pluto Sco square cries to be left well alone. They swear to never be "dependent" on another.

And they both expect the partner to just "know" when they need one or the other.

I hope you find peace and reconciliation for all that fixed sign energy.

posted January 13, 2015 01:21 PM            

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Originally posted by babybull82:
I haven't done anything I regret or crazy. The most I'll do is cyber stalk. But mostly I delete & block the person from every social network known to man and I go straight no contact.

To be honest I've never been in love before so I'm not sure how I'd react. Even if I'm the dumpee, I pretty much can feel when it's coming & I've already emotionally disengaged before they said it was over. I just tend to hold on longer than I should (taurus sun, mars in libra--passive aggressiveness). And once it's over it usually takes about a month & a half to get a person out of my system. There is no going back. Feelings are dead & gone. I'll still be friends & care about them that way, but no romantic feelings will remain. (Venus in pisces).

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Venus in Pisces/Mars in Libra? I don't think you care much for drama in relationships.

In-fact with Venus in Pisces, the love is more "universal' than personal i.e "I cared for you a lot. But i wish you well on your way out. Send me an invitation to your wedding "etc.

Because with the additional chilled out Venus in Pisces ruled-Sun in Taurus and Mars in Libra,there is no sense of urgency or feeling the need for that "transforming" love. Like most people do.

You get love when you can. You are just fine and self-satisfied really. Happy to love mankind as a whole than one person really.

posted January 13, 2015 01:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Geeky:
oh dear...

Stage 1 - Relentless texting, calling and e-mailing. He wouldn't answer, so I would leave voice messages.

Stage 2 - Once he started ignoring those, I went into creating a twitter feed and tweeting him every day "how much I still love you" kind of tweets.

Stage 3 - When he ignored that, I set up a blog to dump my feelings on. I e-mailed him the web link, of course.

Stage 4 - I started recording audio of me telling him how how I feel, explaining how confused I was, how much he hurt me etc. and e-mailing those mp3 files. I thought if he would just listen and hear my pain, he would GET IT.

Stage 5 - Revenge sex because I had heard the best way to get over someone was to get under someone else. (it's not true, BTW)

I slept around (a lot) and let him know. I took a photo of one encounter and texted it to him. This is when he finally said, "I don't love you. in fact, I never ****ing loved you! Do you get it now?"
(it felt like my life was over)

Up until that point, he led me on with hope. "I just need a little space"... "I've just been depressed" type of stuff.

Stage 6 - "Let's be friends with benefits" attempts. He rejected this and I finally gave up.

Throughout the stages, I cyber-stalked him and looked at his photos constantly. He was active in a band, so I would go to his music page and listen to the tracks where he did vocals just to hear his voice. I watched all of the tv shows we watched together, the movies we watched together and listened to the songs that meant something to us and cried.

I sent him Christmas & birthday presents.

I made him soup when I learned he was sick and turned up uninvited at his house to deliver (he accepted that, btw, and wrote me a sweet thank you note).

I obsessed about this guy every single day for two straight years. I cried nearly every day. I lost my job at the time. I was basically a mess.

Once I had *finally* moved on with a new person (the person I am now married to), he called me and wanted to have the "friends with benefits" arrangement I had earlier offered. When I shot him down, I ensured 3 straight days of the most horrific and threatening texts you could imagine. The name-calling cut me deep and the insults were perfectly targeted.

My hubby (boyfriend at the time) left work early to stay with me one day for fear of my safety. I ended up changing my number. I considered moving.

After some time, I messaged him & I asked if we could be platonic friends. He agreed, but asked for a bit of time. A few months later, I learned he had a new woman and had moved in with her (rather quickly too). So I sent him a "Merry Christmas, this day is still special to me" note because we met on Christmas night in 2010.

That was the last message I sent.

I think about him often and I doubt he ever gives me a second thought.

edit: He is the ONLY person to ever provoke such a strong response because he is the only person I ever truly loved 100%. With everyone else before him, I always had a "back up plan" in my back pocket. I always had my exit strategy in mind and although I wouldn't cheat, I was never 100% fully committed in my heart. And this is why... because I knew it would destroy me.

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Oh wow Hugs

A woman went to a house where her ex was sleeping with his now girlfriend.

Very deep in pain and just not in the right frame of mind, she claimed that she found herself there,pulling the trigger,calling the police and spending the rest of her life in jail.

"I just went there to make him "see",she said crying," I wanted him to understand. Wanted him to know that it wasn't fair. I wanted him to understand how deeply it hurt".

Does Saturn form hard aspects to your Moon/ Venus?

Those words;"I don't love you. In fact, I never ****ing loved you! Do you get it now?" Hurt me while reading.

Is it possible that he was a projection of something that you never got from someone important? i.e father, mother etc.

You mentioned that you never felt that way for anyone before and probably "never" again.

But to me it suggests that someone held back.Didn't give you something that you felt you deserved at a particular time. Then when he came. He became the repeat of that painful experience.

But perhaps you thought you'd change it. This time you wanted a differing ending.One that will please and comfort you.Finally close this need to have that important person "acknowledge" how you feel.

So it became very important for him to respond.To tell you what you wanted to hear.To tell you something that will make it "alright".He held the key. He could set you free from all that hurt etc.

But he never did.In fact he did much worse than "kill" you.He ignored you. Just like the experience before

But did he hurt you? Or was the pain already there before he came? All he probably managed to do was regurgitate it somewhat?

Don't mean to be insensitive and over psycho- analyze. You can leave it if its too personal.

posted January 13, 2015 02:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Venus in Pisces/Mars in Libra? I don't think you care much for drama in relationships.

In-fact with Venus in Pisces, the love is more "universal' than personal i.e "I cared for you a lot. But i wish you well on your way out. Send me an invitation to your wedding "etc.

Because with the additional chilled out Venus in Pisces ruled-Sun in Taurus and Mars in Libra,there is no sense of urgency or feeling the need for that "transforming" love. Like most people do.

You get love when you can. You are just fine and self-satisfied really. Happy to love mankind as a whole than one person really.

Where is the Moon and Pluto at?

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My moon is in my 2nd house in Virgo and my Pluto is in the 3rd in Libra.

I think part of me wants "love" I guess. But I have moon opposite Venus and moon conjunct Mars, I'm sure that may play a part in it. My Venus is also in the 8th which would give it a venus-pluto quality and I'd like to think I avoid that because I don't want to get hurt by loving someone too deeply. Honestly I'm not even sure if I'm making sense right now.

posted January 13, 2015 03:05 PM            

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Originally posted by babybull82:
My moon is in my 2nd house in Virgo and my Pluto is in the 3rd in Libra.

I think part of me wants "love" I guess. But I have moon opposite Venus and moon conjunct Mars, I'm sure that may play a part in it. My Venus is also in the 8th which would give it a venus-pluto quality and I'd like to think I avoid that because I don't want to get hurt by loving someone too deeply. Honestly I'm not even sure if I'm making sense right now.

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You really are. With Pluto and Mars in Libra, I don't think "intensity of emotions" is your aim. Seeing that both are ruled by that dignified Venus in Pisces.

But there is a love of peace,romance, together. the ideals that surround it etc.

At-least that is what I see.

Libra doesn't like "ugliness", Taurus avoids digging deep and Pisces is more than happy to float on a cloud of happiness.

Also, if that Moon is opposing Venus, you may do your best to please a partner. And where your Mercury(ruler of Moon) is at, will tell you what emotional needs that you are meeting when doing that.

posted January 13, 2015 05:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
You really are. With Pluto and Mars in Libra, I don't think "intensity of emotions" is your aim. Seeing that both are ruled by that dignified Venus in Pisces.

But there is a love of peace,romance, together. the ideals that surround it etc.

At-least that is what I see.

Libra doesn't like "ugliness", Taurus avoids digging deep and Pisces is more than happy to float on a cloud of happiness.

Also, if that Moon is opposing Venus, you may do your best to please a partner. And where your Mercury(ruler of Moon) is at, will tell you what emotional needs that you are meeting when doing that.

All in all, your positions are not all that intense I believe.

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posted January 14, 2015 02:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

Does Saturn form hard aspects to your Moon/ Venus?

Those words;[b]"I don't love you. In fact, I never ****ing loved you! Do you get it now?" Hurt me while reading.

Is it possible that he was a projection of something that you never got from someone important? i.e father, mother etc.

You mentioned that you never felt that way for anyone before and probably "never" again.

But to me it suggests that someone held back.Didn't give you something that you felt you deserved at a particular time. Then when he came. He became the repeat of that painful experience.

But perhaps you thought you'd change it. This time you wanted a differing ending.One that will please and comfort you.Finally close this need to have that important person "acknowledge" how you feel.

So it became very important for him to respond.To tell you what you wanted to hear.To tell you something that will make it "alright".He held the key. He could set you free from all that hurt etc.

But he never did.In fact he did much worse than "kill" you.He ignored you. Just like the experience before

But did he hurt you? Or was the pain already there before he came? All he probably managed to do was regurgitate it somewhat?

Don't mean to be insensitive and over psycho- analyze. You can leave it if its too personal.

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Yes to the hard aspects. Saturn squares my Moon and to add to that, I have Moon and Neptune conjunction.I truly believe without my Virgo Sun, I would be very unbalanced.

Saturn is sextile my Venus so not as hard.

Not sure about the other stuff. It would make more sense if I were still young and inexperienced because I used to look for what was missing in childhood.

However, I was already in my 30s, married and divorced 2x when I met him. In other words, my Moon/Neptune conjunction already learned fairy tales do not happen.

posted January 14, 2015 02:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Geeky:
Yes to the hard aspects.Saturn squares my Moon and to add to that, I have Moon and Neptune conjunction.I truly believe without my Virgo Sun, I would be very unbalanced.

Saturn is sextile my Venus so not as hard.

Not sure about the other stuff. It would make more sense if I were still young and inexperienced because I used to look for what was missing in childhood.

However, I was already in my 30s, married and divorced 2x when I met him. In other words, my Moon/Neptune conjunction already learned fairy tales do not happen

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Yes to Saturn.Oh yes.That never fails.

I have Saturn conjunct Venus in Scorpio.I also have Chiron in Taurus and its ruler Venus is in Scorpio.They make no aspect.

But even so,I think that both my fear/wound is connected to the Taurus/Scorpio axis of affection/sexuality/intimacy/self worth and self love etc.

I have this insatiable need to be the "best" lover sexually. I have kinky fantasies that my Scorpio Moon boyfriend knows all too well.

I think my self esteem is very much attached to how "sexy" I am.And how much "intimate sex" I can have.

If I can get others to "open up" and "give in" to me. Give in all their sexual desires, nuances,secrets and release all that energy. I have the power.

The power of healing them and perhaps also this wound of a deep love that I feel I "missed out" on etc.

I think the reason that I felt a chill with those words was that they echo how I felt when I was young. How I felt in my early twenties.

Now the words have changed to "When will you start believing that I care? What do I have to do to prove to you just how much I love you?"

posted January 14, 2015 02:46 PM            

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Originally posted by bumblebee:
I text him for about a year no matter that he didn't text back. I had tr. Saturn opposite Venus then.

I still can not get over him.

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That is a tough transit to have. Often denoting increased sensitivity to social/ relational rejection or indifference.
Love(Venus) denied(Saturn).

An ex of mine has Venus(Aries)opposite Pluto(Libra),Saturn(Libra)opposite Venus, Jupiter(Scorpio)opposite Venus.

Having a knowledge of astrology helped me understand him better than he could himself.

He was baffled emotionally and would reach out to me often.So I moved our relationship to a palatable friendship.

It wasn't easy.We were both insanely jealous of whomever the other dated.But knew that we couldn't get back together(as well).

Now,its very deep but platonic.I still care for him and him for me too.But we really won't stand in each others' way.