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Aries23Degrees
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posted January 24, 2015 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belba:
Thanks for the understanding, also, I was a bit agitated the day I wrote that

My Descendant is at 17° Leo, the closest is Leo Jupiter in 6H, which is 9° away (if you don't count Pallas, conjunct by 1°, also in 6H).

the 7H planets are very far up, stretching from 15° Virgo to 3° Libra. Virgo intercepted.

So, in a way, the 6th house "prevails"?


We will take the Jupiter in 7th and work with that.Because I ironically saw that quality in your response to the thread. You had so much to say (Jupiter).

The inability to express oneself coherently or at-least "feel" like you are not making sense- is very much a Jupiter thing.

Jupiter wants to say so much but tries to "condense" much of what they want to say into a more understandable format.And is rarely satisfied even with that delivery once done.

What ends up happening is that they end up writing an essay Especially when Jupiter is in Gemini,Sagittarius,Leo,Virgo. And they really don't mean to.

I have seen this also with Jupiter aspecting personal planets Sun/Moon/Mercury/Venus/Mars.
Jupiter wants to cover as much ground as possible- not leaving anything out etc.

But anyway,lets stay with that. Do you have a significant other/very special friend that you are infinitely close to?

It has to be someone that you talk to often. Someone that you see on a regular basis and have a consistent relationship with.

Now with that person in mind,describe WHY you like them. Describe what qualities about them you appreciate or make them "stand out" in as far as you are concerned.

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posted January 25, 2015 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belba     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
We will take the Jupiter in 7th and work with that.Because I ironically saw that quality in your response to the thread. You had so much to say (Jupiter).

The inability to express oneself coherently or at-least "feel" like you are not making sense- is very much a Jupiter thing.

Jupiter wants to say so much but tries to "condense" much of what they want to say into a more understandable format.And is rarely satisfied even with that delivery once done.

What ends up happening is that they end up writing an essay Especially when Jupiter is in Gemini,Sagittarius,Leo,Virgo. And they really don't mean to.

I have seen this also with Jupiter aspecting personal planets Sun/Moon/Mercury/Venus/Mars.
Jupiter wants to cover as much ground as possible- not leaving anything out etc.

But anyway,lets stay with that. Do you have a significant other/very special friend that you are infinitely close to?

It has to be someone that you talk to often. Someone that you see on a regular basis and have a consistent relationship with.

Now with that person in mind,describe WHY you like them. Describe what qualities about them you appreciate or make them "stand out" in as far as you are concerned.


Well yes, it's true, I couldn't help myself writing that much, after all Jupiter aspects my Sun, Mars and MC, it's how I assert myself, sometimes it can be in a grand manner

I have a very special friend, she is my cousin, and the only really close friend I am sure will be there with me through the years to come (all others are just, well, when I suspect too self absorbed views on life, I slowly drift away...). Although I do have a couple of close friends, what really stands out with her is that our friendship is not merely based on sharing personal stories, sobbing and comforting each other in our distress, to an extent yes, but it has a higher dimension to it, an awareness of the world, the pettiness of our troubles, we both realize there are subjective stories of people far more unhappy than we are, not due to their incompetence but rather the unjust world we live in. She is modest in a way, she lives not according to our perverse ideas of productive lives, but rather a contemplative existence, she is not dramatic about herself and her life, in a way her personal happiness doesn't make her happy, she just said that she came to a realization that she'll never be "happy", not that she intends to be miserable, but not in that fictive ecstatic western way happy.. there is always that connection to the injustice in the world.

I can talk with her about so much, and it's never "technical", oh lets have a sociological debate, or rehearse our political views.. She doesn't care about gathering information, it's about understanding and getting to know. We converse regarding context and not neglecting the personal dimension, consider the society and the individual. She is so compassionate; she understands every human being's action and does not judge trivially. The book I would say is in tune with her so much is Galeano's Upside down world, if you’ve perhaps read it... indignation mixed with sadness. We don't meet very often, only maybe once a month, because she lives far away, but we do keep in touch through mail... I've written her some of my most puzzled, emotionally confused and also sublime thoughts and she gets them. She studied anthropology and economics, so she understands the world, she has such an interest in the truth...She is very spiritual, without her consciously wanting to be. She understands my struggle, the hard period I'm in (or better every single existential crisis ) , the searching for meaning, losing it, doubting... She has been in Africa once volunteering, but she almost died due to an infection, because her immune system is very weak, she is really tiny and skinny, but her life wish is to once again return. She loves to travel, but never lightly, for fun, always talking to people about their problems, getting to know the culture, way of living... She just gets me, in every single way. I could go on and on.

I know what you did here or better, I see what I've just written
She's a Sag, but with nice water planets twist, which gives her compassion, not caring for knowledge by itself. I love her to death.
It seems all my friends have either Sag Sun or Ascendant, but when I realize they don't have that width I expect from people (and sincerely not all Sag's are like that, very far from the truth), because that's also what I strive for, I just can't continue the friendship, or not that intensely. What really turns me away from people, and it has ended lots of friendships is their "shallowness", at least I see it that way, when they lack feeling the world and just see themselves and those closest. No matter how much they love me, respect, even adore me, in a way it's still selfish, wanting to possess a person, having someone in their life, simply that doesn't make me want to continue my friendship with them.


You've just got me to write another essay

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Aries23Degrees
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posted January 29, 2015 03:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought I answered this a long time ago. Apologies.

I think what I was trying to emphasize- through having you describe the traits that you most appreciate about your close friend- is that YOU are that Jupiter person that you project.

I particularly liked the following lines best because they stuck out to me.

our friendship is not merely based on sharing personal stories, sobbing and comforting each other in our distress, to an extent yes, but it has a higher dimension to it, an awareness of the world, the pettiness of our troubles.

We both realize there are subjective stories of people far more unhappy than we are,not due to their incompetence but rather the unjust world we live in.

Loved that!!!

I can talk with her about so much, and it's never "technical", oh lets have a sociological debate, or rehearse our political views.. She doesn't care about gathering information, it's about understanding and getting to know.

We converse regarding context and not neglecting the personal dimension,consider the society and the individual.

Yes ,yes, yes

She studied anthropology and economics, so she understands the world, she has such an interest in the truth...She is very spiritual, without her consciously wanting to be.

She understands my struggle, the hard period I'm in (or better every single existential crisis),the searching for meaning, losing it,doubting...

She has been in Africa once volunteering, but she almost died due to an infection, because her immune system is very weak,she is really tiny and skinny, but her life wish is to once again return.

She loves to travel, but never lightly,for fun,always talking to people about their problems,getting to know the culture,way of living...

I think I like your friend too

It seems all my friends have either Sag Sun or Ascendant,but when I realize they don't have that width I expect from people (and sincerely not all Sag's are like that, very far from the truth because that's also what I strive for),I just can't continue the friendship, or not that intensely.

What really turns me away from people and it has ended lots of friendships,is their "shallowness"(at-least I see it that way)when they lack feeling the world and just see themselves and those closest.

No matter how much they love me,respect and even adore me, in a way it's still selfish; wanting to possess a person,having someone in their life.Simply that doesn't make me want to continue my friendship with them.

I have met MANY a "dumb" Sag's So I understand when you say that not all are "wise" and concerned with world issues etc.

But really.The above line is your Jupiter in 7th expressed most poignantly...

How would you be able to differentiate between those less "wise" from those that are truly broad-minded?

Do you not see that the "instrument of discernment"(or what have you) is within yourself?

You think it is others that bring knowledge to you(Jupiter in 7th).But it is YOU who "calls" them forth and "picks" from the ones that come.

This is what I meant by "shadow" side of the 7th: Qualities we assign to others, but are there within ourselves.

Qualities we do not readily own because we do not "see" them in us at all etc.

And as far as the others that are less sensitive about world-issues are concerned.If they prove loving and loyal,keep them in your life.

The 8th house of Sag is Cancer(homebound,concerned with those closest and can be very possessive).

And Cancer(at-least the more evolved ones) do have a role to play in the Sag's life as well.

For when you need time to "recharge" from reaching for that illusive "truth". They keep the other side of life moving.

It may not be the side that you readily apprecaite when still searching for the BIG answers. I mean who wants to care for the roaches infesting the sink when children are starving in Africa right?

But when we get older,realize that no matter how lofty our dreams and hopes for others are,the only real thing we can do is project our best wishes to them(Pisces is Sag's solar 4th house). That we really cannot create in the world of others

When this realization comes,the appreciaton of your own domestic atmosphere,what we can influence and the love therein will be that much more sweeter.

And in that peace,you will be willing to let go of trying to control/save the world/even understand its ways and eventually surrender/"die"(Cancer is Sag's solar 8th house cusp).

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I'm so cappy
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posted January 29, 2015 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I thought I answered this a long time ago. Apologies.

You did. Your post disappeared.

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I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted January 29, 2015 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:.
[QUOTE]I thought I answered this a long time ago. Apologies.

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
You did. Your post disappeared.

How does that happen? Because I really thought I was going off the ball Thank Goodness. All sanity restored

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posted January 29, 2015 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glitch. It happens quite often on LL. I adivse you to save long posts just in case.

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posted January 29, 2015 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libra Asc

Pluto Libra 1st conjunct
Neptune Sag 3rd sextile
Saturn Leo 10th sextile
Jupiter Taurus 8th Trine

Uranus in Scorpio 2nd does make a minor aspect.

I don't know. I guess I'm a mixed bag a little bit. I'm not sure what to say except that I seem to have an ability to mingle with people of different classes/groups/origins, etc.

Authority figures seem to deeply respect me, but we don't socialize that much. Otherwise, different cultural backgrounds, races, upbringings, styles, etc etc. just don't seem to matter much.

However, I do feel the pluto/asc the most. It's one thing (along with heavy 12th) that kind of keeps me from being a social butterfly. I VERY much prefer solitude and LOTS of it.

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posted January 29, 2015 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool topic Koho!

Cap ASC

Conj Saturn 1st
Conj Mercury 1st
Conj Neptune 1st
Conj Uranus 12th cusp/1st


Trine Mars in 4th Taurus
Trine Juno in 8th Virgo
Sextile Moon in 2nd Pisces
Opposition Chiron in 6th Cancer
Square Lillith in 9th Virgo
Square Ceres in 3rd Aries


Semisquare Sun in 2nd Aquarius
Quincunx Venus in 1st Aquarius

There is a lot going on here! I've had people assume that I am fire sign, which is hilarious because I am fire void. I feel Saturn and Neptune the most, and that is generally how people think about my personality. People can pick up on different energies from me, so I do appear as a chameleon at times unintentionally. Either way, I always leave an impression unintentional or not lol.

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posted January 29, 2015 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iced8Ace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with the majority; excellent topic.

Virgo Asc @4.23

Opposed venus 0.47
Conjunct Hera 3.34
Opposed moon 11.12
Trine Juno 2.42
Square Pluto 0.34

Probably has more aspects, these are the major ones.

I come across as innocent and child like, I think it's enhanced by Virgo, Venus and my Aries Sun

Pluto manifests for me as having an outward bubble. You ever go somewhere new and feel overwhelmed and somewhat threatened? My initial response is to seem angry and defensive, like you can't mess with me! I don't even think that way - it's like a gut reaction that surfaces. My innocent face kinda ruins the persona... however it's still a defensive mechanism. Hard to control the impulse but once I get used to the area/situation I'm usually fine.

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posted January 30, 2015 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belba     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No need to apologize Aries23Degrees, you're a true gem here on LL, shining bright like a diamond, and I feel honored every time exchange words

Well you have made a good point, I've realized that while writing… I'd like to think that I have some of the qualities of my friend. After all I do have Sag Moon, so Jupiter is in a way my core, my soul, the deepest part of me…

You would most definitely like her, I get similar vibes from you she's got Cancer Moon, another thing you have in common (if I remembered it correctly from another thread, or are you a Scorpio Moon? )

Yes, the underdeveloped Sags are an awful bunch just like I know many shallow Libras, if I may say something about my own Sun sign

I don't know, but doesn't that discrimination make me a bit arrogant, who am I to judge who is wise and who not? … But I think I do, I don't know many people I would call wise, but I usually sense that immediately when I meet a person, not that I'm quick to judge, I still allow the possibility to change my mind, but that doesn't happen very often… I'm quite good at sensing what this person is about, their main motivation in life etc. Yes, yes, I do recognize Jupiter in me, no doubt. I might be still guilty of projecting though, whether be the good or the bad Jupiter's qualities

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posted January 30, 2015 06:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belba     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

You think it is others that bring knowledge to you(Jupiter in 7th).But it is YOU who "calls" them forth and "picks" from the ones that come.

This is what I meant by "shadow" side of the 7th: Qualities we assign to others, but are there within ourselves.


I get that now, thank you

About others, I know… I'm too demanding most of the times, although I know I'm far from perfect myself, I just can't help myself to despair when people don't share my passion for some topics, same philosophy of life etc. And I have an awful habit of distancing from some people for periods of time, just to realize how much they mean to me. I am not testing them or their patience, rather than I am teaching myself a lesson… I have in the past year started to ignore almost all of my closest friend, it was not entirely intentional, I'm in the toughest period in my life, but that's another subject altogether. What I was trying to say is, that they are always in my mind and heart and I look forward to the day I'll call them, repent, make amends, humble myself…

I do attract a looooot of people with Cancer planets in my life, come to think about it I've often wondered how so… You've made that seem so understandable.
And I love that quote:

»And Cancer(at-least the more evolved ones) do have a role to play in the Sag's life as well.
For when you need time to "recharge" from reaching for that illusive "truth". They keep the other side of life moving.«

I am sadly fully aware of the disappointments big dreams and ideals can bring you… Although I am not afraid of the falls and disappointments, I do realize the importance of the domestic life, more so it's one of the greatest wishes of mine to create a family (Mars conjunct IC). I want both. I want to fight in the storm and then come home to my shelter. I won't be able to do that, if I keep pushing people who supposedly not suffice my »standards« away, will I?

I do surrender bit by bit and when I believe I should let go… I am not imposing on myself some impossible ambitions… Maybe I impose too many on my closest…. Anyway, that's my life lesson (12H Saturn and NN), so I'm not rushing. But I see a difference between the current me and the me few years ago.

Thank you

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posted February 01, 2015 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belba:
Koho, your chart is similar to my friend’s and he’s also a guy. You share Ascendant, Sun, Moon and Mercury! His Venus is at 0 degree Scorpio and he’s got Gemini Mars, though. He’s got a stellium in 6H. And I can see the similarities and differences between you too, it’s really quite interesting. Although I don’t know you, you both seem to share the analytical, methodical, introspective and serious manner of seeing things, thinking and writing. He gets the wider picture, as you do, obviously. There isn’t a subject on this earths he couldn’t connect to universal patterns. But you do strike me as lot more assertive than him. I think the seventh house or in your case also conjunctions to Descendants make for more determined and independent person, than in this case stellium in 6H. Interesting...

I think I'd agree. The stellium in the 6H adds a bit of Virgo reservedness to him?

I consider myself assertive but in a very gentle way; Scorpio Sun in the house of Libra might help soften up that energy? My overall make-up is pretty assertive. Like your friend the Scorpio and Taurus fixed energy, the Capricorn Moon probably helps, and I have my Mars in Aries adding to the forwardness (though it's a little troubled in the 12th) I imagine the big difference may come from the Mars and house placements (like the 7th you pointed out)

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Koho, what you’ve written about leaders and diplomats is true. I’ve seen that a lot with 7H people, just a natural ability, flow. [/B]

I'm glad you agree! I think it's a very good position for the Sun in a strong sign. I would imagine it adds Libran even-handedness to the person's personality and charisma. Just a thought though, I don't know enough 7H Suns.

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posted February 01, 2015 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
This is one reason I love LL. Threads like this.

I'm such a "messy" learner that I'm a bit all over the place. I hadn't even considered looking at the aspects to my ASC. So, again, threads like this help me focus on things to learn/study. Then I run off and read all about the topic. This is still all new to me as every day I'm confronted by more stuff I don't know!

'm never really sure I can "feel" all the aspects in my chart. There are of course some I feel more than others. Some that I KNOW are there. Though I think I understand and feel house placements and planet signs 10x more than aspects.

I think having Neptune conj Sun in the first makes it difficult for me to understand how others see me vs how I see myself. Sometimes people say to guess your ASC you should think how others would describe you. And that to me is a complete impossibility. I couldn't tell you!

That's not 100% true. I know that I can (or that I could) sometimes intimidate people and sometimes I come across as intense. Though much less so now that I'm older. The intensity have diminished but then also now since I don't have an immediate impact on people I'm less sure how I come across.

Aspects to Scorpio ASC

Venus conj ASC, 12H Scorpio (3)
Jupiter conj ASC, 1H Scorpio (8)
Saturn opp ASC, 7H Taurus (4)
Merc/Moon semi-sextile ASC, 2H Sag (0, 2)

I also don't quite get my oppositions. So thanks for the discussion on that! I don't relate very much to the generalizations that are written about them. I can be wishy washy and see both sides of things. But that must come also from the mutability of Sag, Sun/Nept conj and my useless(!) Libra Mars in 12th. Or is it all just confirmation of the same personal traits?

Next I'd like to learn how to deal with these aspects/traits that I don't like so much/find challenging. But I always need [b]concrete solutions. It's just that I don't think there are any.

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I learn the same way. It's why I end up making threads like this every week because I end up realizing a part of my chart I've neglected.

I find that Saturn opposite Ascendant really interesting. What do you think about it?

I'm a fellow 1st house Jupiter person. I hope it has been as good to you as it has been to me.

Libra Mars in the 12th? That's rough. I understand the troubles of a 12th Mars. My Mars in Aries is in the 12th with squares from Neptune, Moon, and Saturn. A helpful sextile from my Jupiter in the 1st house though. I understand your pains here to a decent level.

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posted February 02, 2015 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belba     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Koho:
think I'd agree. The stellium in the 6H adds a bit of Virgo reservedness to him?

I consider myself assertive but in a very gentle way; Scorpio Sun in the house of Libra might help soften up that energy? My overall make-up is pretty assertive. Like your friend the Scorpio and Taurus fixed energy, the Capricorn Moon probably helps, and I have my Mars in Aries adding to the forwardness (though it's a little troubled in the 12th) I imagine the big difference may come from the Mars and house placements (like the 7th you pointed out)


I'm glad you agree! I think it's a very good position for the Sun in a strong sign. I would imagine it adds Libran even-handedness to the person's personality and charisma. Just a thought though, I don't know enough 7H Suns.


Yes, he's quite reserved, maybe also due to the 6th house, but I see his strong 6th house in that he easily settles with fulfilling his duties, being a homebody, gardening, baking and stuff like that, not that is something wrong with that, just that he'd like to achieve something, involve with politics, make a change, he thinks grand, but acts small, he doesn't have the courage himself to make changes in his life, he's so stuck in his routine, although he wishes he wouldn't be... We have to encourage him a lot for him to get out of his day to day comfort zone

Well, you're lucky to have a strong Sun, which in my opinion Scorpio Sun is, and paired that with 7th house, you've got plenty of cardinal energy with that Moon and Mars, so I think it's great to have it a bit "controlled" by 7H and 12H, you know how to assert yourself and also be considerate, that's awesome

I'm a Libra Sun in 7th house, I can be a perfect diplomat if I want to, but most of the times I simply don't care about objectiveness and neutrality, I just want the truth, though I don't have problems with understanding all the sides to the story. I don't yearn for leadership, that's for sure, but if it showed that I'm the most capable for it, I'd do my duty everyone would obey, because I'd be so nice

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posted February 08, 2015 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belba:
Yes, he's quite reserved, maybe also due to the 6th house, but I see his strong 6th house in that he easily settles with fulfilling his duties, being a homebody, gardening, baking and stuff like that, not that is something wrong with that, just that he'd like to achieve something, involve with politics, make a change, he thinks grand, but acts small, he doesn't have the courage himself to make changes in his life, he's so stuck in his routine, although he wishes he wouldn't be... We have to encourage him a lot for him to get out of his day to day comfort zone

Well, you're lucky to have a strong Sun, which in my opinion Scorpio Sun is, and paired that with 7th house, you've got plenty of cardinal energy with that Moon and Mars, so I think it's great to have it a bit "controlled" by 7H and 12H, you know how to assert yourself and also be considerate, that's awesome

I'm a Libra Sun in 7th house, I can be a perfect diplomat if I want to, but most of the times I simply don't care about objectiveness and neutrality, I just want the truth, though I don't have problems with understanding all the sides to the story. I don't yearn for leadership, that's for sure, but if it showed that I'm the most capable for it, I'd do my duty everyone would obey, because I'd be so nice


He sounds like an incredible asset to a team that shares his ideas. He may not thrive into a leading role but he sounds like a great supportive member. I don't know the details of what he wants to accomplish but I would hope someone notices his talent and recruits him.

I do have a good balance of assertiveness and consideration. I'm really grateful for the softening energies. I don't know if you watch House of Cards but the character of Frank Underwood is interesting for me. My Scorpio Sun and Cappy Moon loves his ruthlessness and envies the power grab but my Libra/7th house energy recognizes that his power is truly built on a house of cards and relationships have to be nurtured and maintained for real influence.

Libra Sun in the 7th - that's a charmer I wanna witness. If I understood you also have Mercury and Jupiter in the 7th? But Virgo Merc ya?

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posted February 08, 2015 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belba     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Koho:
He sounds like an incredible asset to a team that shares his ideas. He may not thrive into a leading role but he sounds like a great supportive member. I don't know the details of what he wants to accomplish but I would hope someone notices his talent and recruits him.

I do have a good balance of assertiveness and consideration. I'm really grateful for the softening energies. I don't know if you watch House of Cards but the character of Frank Underwood is interesting for me. My Scorpio Sun and Cappy Moon loves his ruthlessness and envies the power grab but my Libra/7th house energy recognizes that his power is truly built on a house of cards and relationships have to be nurtured and maintained for real influence.

Libra Sun in the 7th - that's a charmer I wanna witness. If I understood you also have Mercury and Jupiter in the 7th? But Virgo Merc ya?


He will achieve a lot, he just needs time to come out of his shell, I believe in him. He hasn't got the support he needs at home and feels like an outsider, partly because he's gay in a gay not so friendly town, doesn't really feel at home with the gay community, so he has other issues in life that prevent him to shine his light in a full glow... but he will eventually if there's something in life I have learned about strongly Cap people, is that you can't push them, you let them take their time, they know when they're ready (or YOU know when you're ready ) Thanks for the wishes, I'll let him know there is yet another person on this earth that wishes him well it's all about good vibrations.

I have House of Cards on my wishlist for quite some time, but something tells me that I'll pass it... The context and the background of the story is very off putting to me, there are some things I despise (maybe that's too strong expression) in this world, and hunger for power and money is one of them, so I try to avoid getting really angry by watching something like that well, that wasn't necessary, but I guess I just needed to express my "political" views I'm Libra after all.

I have been called a charmer before.

Venus and Mercury in Virgo, guilty! Jupiter is actually, poor fella, stuck just few degrees from the descendant in 6H. I'd rather have him join the party in my marriage house (I lovingly call it like that) and shake the virgostiffness a bit

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These are all of the aspects to my Scorpio Ascendant. Not too sure about the effect that they have on me:

Moon trine Asc, 4H Pisces (7)
Venus opposite Asc, 6H Taurus (-5)
Mars sesquiquadrate Asc, 5H Aries (2)
Sun quincunx Asc, 10H Gemini (0)
Jupiter trine Asc, 8H Cancer (9)
Saturn sextile Asc, 2H Capricorn (-1)
Uranus semi-square Asc, 2H Capricorn (-2)
Pluto conjunct Asc, 12H Scorpio (10)
Chiron trine Asc, 8H Cancer (9)

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posted February 09, 2015 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belba     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ikja:
These are all of the aspects to my Scorpio Ascendant. Not too sure about the effect that they have on me:

Moon trine Asc, 4H Pisces (7)
Venus opposite Asc, 6H Taurus (-5)
Mars sesquiquadrate Asc, 5H Aries (2)
Sun quincunx Asc, 10H Gemini (0)
Jupiter trine Asc, 8H Cancer (9)
Saturn sextile Asc, 2H Capricorn (-1)
Uranus semi-square Asc, 2H Capricorn (-2)
Pluto conjunct Asc, 12H Scorpio (10)
Chiron trine Asc, 8H Cancer (9)


I shall try to make something of it

I'd only consider the tightest, so the Sun, Saturn and Uranus, and I get an overall feeling that there's a strong Cap air about you, which is basically quite in tune with your Scorpio rising - do you come off as very serious, brooding, bit haughty too? Nobody would ever guess you're a Gemini? And you're very careful in public, feel restricted, sometimes you'd just want to fool around, express your Sag IC, be playful and goofy, but you end up overtly censoring yourself or maybe in other extreme being very cynical and defensive? You leave an impression that you're trustworthy, capable and smart.

Perhaps the most important is your Taurus Venus, you really really identify yourself with it's characteristics, you love all things Taurus, value all things Taurus, and would like to be the best manifestation of the Bull when you feel safe you have a very harmonious nature, enjoy the simple things in life, feel at peace with people, nature, loving the fresh air, wind blowing, the silky touch of the sheet, you're very loving and caring. You probably think that this is the very essence of your nature and you expect nothing less from others. No drama please, you were born for slowly and sensually enjoying life. You choose your closest by this criteria also

A bit generalized, sorry, but I'm still fresh at deducing I don't know if you've read previous posts, there were some amazing insights about Venus on the descendant. Koho has the reversed situation with his Scorpio Venus, did you recognize in his writings?

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posted February 09, 2015 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belba:
Koho has the reversed situation with his Scorpio Venus, did you recognize in his writings?

Venus in Libra actually :P

Oh god, I don't need anymore Scorpio/Pluto energy. I really value that Libra lightness in my chart, plx don't take it away

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posted February 10, 2015 02:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Koho:

So it would be awesome if some of you could post your ascendant sign, and aspects from other signs/planets. What placement means most to you? What placement would you like insight on?


Libra ASC!

I focus most on...
-Saturn sextile (in Sag)
-Mars Square (in Cap)

I'd like insight on...
-Eros trine (in Aqua)
-Chiron trine (in Gemini)

Feedback anyone??


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posted February 11, 2015 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
Libra ASC!

I focus most on...
-Saturn sextile (in Sag)
-Mars Square (in Cap)

I'd like insight on...
-Eros trine (in Aqua)
-Chiron trine (in Gemini)

Feedback anyone??


I don't think I can offer ya something you don't already know but I can say this -

When someones Libra Ascendant conjuncts my Venus Libra I find your mannerisms absolutely perfect and charming.

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That Mars square to the ASC might make you a little more forward in approach I'd imagine. Unless maybe Cap really tones it down anyway. What do you feel about that energy? Do you come off strong?

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posted February 12, 2015 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Koho:

When someones Libra Ascendant conjuncts my Venus Libra I find your mannerisms absolutely perfect and charming.

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That Mars square to the ASC might make you a little more forward in approach I'd imagine. Unless maybe Cap really tones it down anyway. What do you feel about that energy? Do you come off strong?


I think the Mars Square sometimes intimidates people at first. But they warm up to me pretty quickly once I open my mouth - due to Libra ASC.

I imagine the sextile to Saturn makes me instantly trustworthy to most people.

I really would like someone to explain Eros to me! Since it's on my ASC!

Same with Chiron - I'd like to know more! I suppose my "healer" spirit shines through? I've always been like a Therapist to many folks.

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Gemini Asc


Mercury Retrograde in Sagittarius opposite Ascendant

What can be tricky to understand about this aspect is how it's affected by Mercury also being my asc ruler and whether it gives a Sagittarius energy to my Ascendant or weakens that potential.

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I am particularly intrigued by this subject, as I’ve never been able to grasp the meaning of the Ascendant and the aspects it makes. The whole “your looks, mask, how you present yourself” interpretation is just not enough for me, it’s actually quite superficial... I have come to realize the meaning of the chart ruler and it’s sign, though. Maybe that’s all that Ascendant is all about??

That's because the Asc is YOU - as a unit. If the Dsc is the other, then it reasons that the Asc is across the way, looking out at them. The Asc is also your reality - again, you. It is the impression you make on people and what/how people respond to you. The aspects are some of the ways people will interact with you and the experiences you will have.

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