posted January 27, 2015 01:51 PM              

I think sometimes it can just be more difficult, but not impossible.

Saturn/Venus hard aspects come to mind.

posted January 27, 2015 05:06 PM            

There is a mate for everyone who wants one.

You're too young to let this get you down. I didn't find my life partner until I was nearly 39. It was worth the wait.

You have to decide if you just want somebody -- because you can't stand waiting (being driven by hormones) -- or if you really are committed first to a good, healthy relationship. Because unless you are committed to yourself for that outcome who knows how it will actually turn out. You could be just as disappointed in 10-20 years after going through a disappointing marriage.

So you have a long pattern that is unsatisfactory to you. Change it. That is what I had to do. My story was much like yours, only with far less dating -- almost none. I didn't get noticed even into my 30s (with one brief exception). My attempts to connect seemed initially successful, then it was as if I was totally forgettable and my efforts to follow up just fell dead.

So change the pattern generator within you. This isn't about blame. This is about recognizing it is your pattern. I used a combination of hypnosis, spiritual practice and changing my appearance to achieve this. It worked. Finally in my mid/late-30s I started getting noticed by women for the first time (since HS).

But what proved most important to me was getting out of the place where I'd been living. The atmosphere was wrong. The values there were at odds with me. I had to move 2200 miles to get into my best environment and guess what? I met my now wife within 3 weeks.

How much are you willing to change to get something that is truly worth it and important in life? Or do you think it should just fall into your lap? It might seem to fall into many people's laps, but if that isn't happening for you, then do what you gotta do.

You're still very young. There is plenty of time. And plenty of time to get to know yourself -- now -- to be a better mate and fully prepared once your mate arrives.

posted January 27, 2015 05:40 PM            

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The truth is most guys reject me when they find out I don't want to go too "fast" meaning I decline getting physical after a couple of dates. I want a commitment before taking that step.

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Where do you normally meet the guys you date?
It sounds like you don't have a strong mental connection. Almost all the exclusive - classic bf/gf - relationships I know of (in our generation: people now in their 20s) started out either at work or at University... or as a result of a shared hobby like playing a sport together.
:edit: Or sometimes through mutual friends - being in the same group of friends, going out as a group and then eventually hanging out one on one and dating.

I only know of one serious relationship that started out in a club. And a couple through dating sites. But this 'chance meeting' type thing is much less common.

posted January 27, 2015 05:43 PM              

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
There are no such planetary placements are aspects. That is not what astrology does. The cosmos does not plot against you. There are some indications of delays - related to Saturn aspects - but necessary ones. Saturn opp/contra-parallel/square/conjunct/parallel Venus or Sun or Moon. If you jump the gun on these aspects and marry in your early-mid 20s it usually turns out to not be worth it.

There is a mate for everyone who wants one.

You're too young to let this get you down. I didn't find my life partner until I was nearly 39. It was worth the wait.

You have to decide if you just want somebody -- because you can't stand waiting (being driven by hormones) -- or if you really are committed first to a good, healthy relationship. Because unless you are committed to yourself for that outcome who knows how it will actually turn out. You could be just as disappointed in 10-20 years after going through a disappointing marriage.

So you have a long pattern that is unsatisfactory to you. Change it. That is what I had to do. My story was much like yours, only with far less dating -- almost none. I didn't get noticed even into my 30s (with one brief exception). My attempts to connect seemed initially successful, then it was as if I was totally forgettable and my efforts to follow up just fell dead.

So change the pattern generator within you. This isn't about blame. This is about recognizing it is your pattern. I used a combination of hypnosis, spiritual practice and changing my appearance to achieve this. It worked. Finally in my mid/late-30s I started getting noticed by women for the first time (since HS).

But what proved most important to me was getting out of the place where I'd been living. The atmosphere was wrong. The values there were at odds with me. I had to move 2200 miles to get into my best environment and guess what? I met my now wife within 3 weeks.

How much are you willing to change to get something that is truly worth it and important in life? Or do you think it should just fall into your lap? It might seem to fall into many people's laps, but if that isn't happening for you, then do what you gotta do.

You're still very young. There is plenty of time. And plenty of time to get to know yourself -- now -- to be a better mate and fully prepared once your mate arrives.

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You're an inspiration, Kannon! I wish you and your wife many happy years together

posted January 28, 2015 07:42 AM            

Astrology has nil to do with it. It's called life unfortunately.

posted January 28, 2015 02:46 PM            

You're a bi t ch

posted January 28, 2015 03:10 PM            

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Originally posted by AmelieRose81:
it isnt placements.

You're a bi t ch

that's why no one wants you

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Good, I heard men prefer "b*tches" so I guess I'm not doing too bad! :eyeroll:

Oh, you so bothered to comment on my thread to tell me this? That's a whole new low. It says more about you than it does about me, frankly.

I don't call people names online or offline and in this light, it's safe to assume I have enough courtesy to conduct an argument without sinking this low. Tact and class are obviously two qualities you seem to atrociously lack.

Calling people names is the weakest form of attack. If you're not happy with what I said on your thread, so be it. I was honest and you couldn't take the heat. You got defensive because I had the guts to tell you that a man is blatantly playing you. Boohoo.

As for my "perfect Pisces", most people on here told me the same thing I told you about yours. He was playing me and I needed to forget about him. Unlike you, I didn't get all worked up about it and I certainly did not attack those who made the effort to knock some sense into me. I read their posts as constructive advice not "bitter biased criticism".

You took my post as a "personal" attack when it wasn't. The guy could have been a Gemini and I would have said the exact same thing. It's about a man's walk, not his sun sign.

You posted your stories about Mr Pisces many many times (all with a common denominator - inconsistency) and I was just gathering information to give you a piece of my mind because that's the advice I should have followed myself to begin with. You wanted validation (especially) given the way your question was articulated.

Oh - No need to quote what you said in your thread:

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That ***** can keep it. I'll never use it again.

May her pisces man never come back and her self pitying trash about not finding love on 2.0 be true forever.

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Amen sister!

Don't forget to remember that Karma is the "b*tch" not me. Whatever ill you wish to happen to someone will eventually come back to haunt you. What goes around comes back around! Just sayin'

Good Luck (because you're definitely going to need it).

posted January 28, 2015 04:22 PM              

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Originally posted by AmelieRose81:
it isnt placements.

You're a bi t ch

that's why no one wants you

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posted January 28, 2015 04:33 PM              

Wth?

posted August 07, 2019 10:09 PM            

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Originally posted by unforgiven_soul:
Saturn in the 7th house usually delays mature and stable relationships. In fact it's really strong up there, the ruler of the 7th house (Saturn) is in the 7th house (Capricorn). Usually you find what you 're looking for or the love of your life around the first return of Saturn. Here are few things to read about it:

[b]With Saturn in the 7th house, you are serious about your relationships but that could be taken in different ways. One of the classic features of this placement is that often the subject may not marry or commit to a relationship until after the first Saturn return, and sometimes not until they are much older. Maybe this is because you know that it is a serious commitment so you need to be sure. But maybe it¢s because where Saturn sits in the chart, we often have an unswerving desire to avoid that area of life at all costs.

You may be drawn to those who offer you the security you need, or you may run at the thought of getting hitched. Saturn poses a challenge. This is the area of life where you are required to develop self-mastery and maturity but the thought of opening up and being vulnerable to someone else can be a frightening prospect. Maybe you want to be strong and resist. Maybe you don¢t want to be tied down or obliged to anyone else. Perhaps you struggle with commitment or fear that your partner will. Relationships are rarely black and white but it can feel like all or nothing.

You may be drawn to those who display typical Saturnian traits – someone in business; someone who is solid and reliable; ¡husband or wife material¢, a traditionalist. Some with this placement may find themselves with an older partner. Going deeper, subjects with Saturn in the 7th House may find themselves with a partner who is more like a parent. If this manifests, it can be helpful to look back at your own parent¢s relationship to see how this may have impacted upon you. In a similar vein, you may be drawn to someone who suits your parents or society¢s expectations of you.

Saturn in the 7th House can have high standards and expectations. Negatively expressed, this placement can trigger a ¡never good enough¢ trait. It may be that you are casting the bar too high or setting yourself up for failure before you¢ve even begun for fear of being hurt. Sometimes too, it¢s easier to find the partner inadequate than deal with your own short-comings. Dissatisfaction becomes a wall around you. Planets in the 7th house are often disowned and projected onto the partner.

Sometimes this placement can generate a fear that you just aren¢t loveable enough or good enough to be with someone else resulting in loneliness and isolation. Issues around partners and even open enemies may test your limits. Occasionally some natives with this placement attract partners who are overly strict or limit their freedom in some way either through personality or through health issues. Often this is a manifestation of the subject¢s own fears being played out through another. Sometimes, depending on other aspects, this placement can indicate staying with a partner long after the expiry date. If these negative manifestations play out, it is a clue to look within to find your own inner Saturn and form a better working relationship with yourself first and foremost.

When Saturn is in the 7th house or in a challenging aspect to Venus, often people moan and groan, my love life is doomed! But Saturn can instil stability just as much as fear. We all need a little bit of Saturn in a relationship to give it staying power. Don¢t forget that Saturn is exalted in Libra, the sign corresponding to the 7th house.

Whilst you may find it more difficult to initially make the leap, once you commit, you commit. Saturn in the 7th house can indicate longevity in relationships. Sometimes there are fewer partners taken or fewer opportunities for love to blossom but when the connection is there, you pay it the serious attention it deserves. As realist, you are less inclined to be swept away by big promises and fairytale romances but as a result, your partner has the benefit of the real you. Your caution can pay dividends. ¡For better or worse¢ is ultimately a Saturnian line. With growing awareness, Saturn gives you the self-discipline to work on yourself and to recognise that relationships too take work.

When functioning well, Saturn can manifest as a responsible and loyal partner. Whilst you may not be inclined to be overly demonstrative, you show your abiding love in other ways such as being a rock for your partner to lean on. Love for you is a verb. Far from never being happy in marriage like the old interpretations suggest, Saturn in the 7th house shows that you have the potential to reach a great level of maturity and understanding not only of your partner but of yourself. When there is an inner marriage within the self then you can meet your partner adult to adult, choosing to be with them on level ground; independent yet walking side by side, sharing the journey of life through all its ups and downs.

Ruler of the 7th house in the 7th house

The activities of the 7th house serve the agenda of the 7th house. Cooperation, conflict, significant partnerships and negotiations are an end unto themselves. We choose partners with whom we can go into business. Marriage partners are business partners, business partners are marriage partners. We want to be with someone who is cooperative. We want a partner who is a good negotiator. Partners can become open enemies. We fight with our partner openly. We have strong feelings or opinions about the contractual nature of marriage. Marriage is nothing but a piece of paper. Marriage is nothing but a contract. Marriage is binding. The relationship isn¢t real unless we get married. Business partners have to sign contracts. We like contracts because they are fair and unbiased. We treat marriage like a negotiation. Our attitude to significant others is as if they are a business partner. The partner needs to be willing negotiate and cooperate with us. We marry a lawyer. We become a law partner. We negotiate with open enemies.

I have a friend who's 7th house cusp is in Capricorn and even though he's famous, has a hard time finding a steady partner. Good thing is you have Sun and many planets in the 5th house, which can make you really good at flirt. You have to check though all the aspects.

Also, you have Moon and Mars in the 12th house and probably you hide your feelings and sexuality. Partners need to explore you and find out your gifts.[/B]

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Would this apply to me if I have a Capricorn Descendant? I relate to this!

posted August 07, 2019 10:17 PM            

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Originally posted by unforgiven_soul:
Saturn in the 7th house usually delays mature and stable relationships. In fact it's really strong up there, the ruler of the 7th house (Saturn) is in the 7th house (Capricorn). Usually you find what you 're looking for or the love of your life around the first return of Saturn. Here are few things to read about it:

[b]With Saturn in the 7th house, you are serious about your relationships but that could be taken in different ways. One of the classic features of this placement is that often the subject may not marry or commit to a relationship until after the first Saturn return, and sometimes not until they are much older. Maybe this is because you know that it is a serious commitment so you need to be sure. But maybe it¢s because where Saturn sits in the chart, we often have an unswerving desire to avoid that area of life at all costs.

You may be drawn to those who offer you the security you need, or you may run at the thought of getting hitched. Saturn poses a challenge. This is the area of life where you are required to develop self-mastery and maturity but the thought of opening up and being vulnerable to someone else can be a frightening prospect. Maybe you want to be strong and resist. Maybe you don¢t want to be tied down or obliged to anyone else. Perhaps you struggle with commitment or fear that your partner will. Relationships are rarely black and white but it can feel like all or nothing.

You may be drawn to those who display typical Saturnian traits – someone in business; someone who is solid and reliable; ¡husband or wife material¢, a traditionalist. Some with this placement may find themselves with an older partner. Going deeper, subjects with Saturn in the 7th House may find themselves with a partner who is more like a parent. If this manifests, it can be helpful to look back at your own parent¢s relationship to see how this may have impacted upon you. In a similar vein, you may be drawn to someone who suits your parents or society¢s expectations of you.

Saturn in the 7th House can have high standards and expectations. Negatively expressed, this placement can trigger a ¡never good enough¢ trait. It may be that you are casting the bar too high or setting yourself up for failure before you¢ve even begun for fear of being hurt. Sometimes too, it¢s easier to find the partner inadequate than deal with your own short-comings. Dissatisfaction becomes a wall around you. Planets in the 7th house are often disowned and projected onto the partner.

Sometimes this placement can generate a fear that you just aren¢t loveable enough or good enough to be with someone else resulting in loneliness and isolation. Issues around partners and even open enemies may test your limits. Occasionally some natives with this placement attract partners who are overly strict or limit their freedom in some way either through personality or through health issues. Often this is a manifestation of the subject¢s own fears being played out through another. Sometimes, depending on other aspects, this placement can indicate staying with a partner long after the expiry date. If these negative manifestations play out, it is a clue to look within to find your own inner Saturn and form a better working relationship with yourself first and foremost.

When Saturn is in the 7th house or in a challenging aspect to Venus, often people moan and groan, my love life is doomed! But Saturn can instil stability just as much as fear. We all need a little bit of Saturn in a relationship to give it staying power. Don¢t forget that Saturn is exalted in Libra, the sign corresponding to the 7th house.

Whilst you may find it more difficult to initially make the leap, once you commit, you commit. Saturn in the 7th house can indicate longevity in relationships. Sometimes there are fewer partners taken or fewer opportunities for love to blossom but when the connection is there, you pay it the serious attention it deserves. As realist, you are less inclined to be swept away by big promises and fairytale romances but as a result, your partner has the benefit of the real you. Your caution can pay dividends. ¡For better or worse¢ is ultimately a Saturnian line. With growing awareness, Saturn gives you the self-discipline to work on yourself and to recognise that relationships too take work.

When functioning well, Saturn can manifest as a responsible and loyal partner. Whilst you may not be inclined to be overly demonstrative, you show your abiding love in other ways such as being a rock for your partner to lean on. Love for you is a verb. Far from never being happy in marriage like the old interpretations suggest, Saturn in the 7th house shows that you have the potential to reach a great level of maturity and understanding not only of your partner but of yourself. When there is an inner marriage within the self then you can meet your partner adult to adult, choosing to be with them on level ground; independent yet walking side by side, sharing the journey of life through all its ups and downs.

Ruler of the 7th house in the 7th house

The activities of the 7th house serve the agenda of the 7th house. Cooperation, conflict, significant partnerships and negotiations are an end unto themselves. We choose partners with whom we can go into business. Marriage partners are business partners, business partners are marriage partners. We want to be with someone who is cooperative. We want a partner who is a good negotiator. Partners can become open enemies. We fight with our partner openly. We have strong feelings or opinions about the contractual nature of marriage. Marriage is nothing but a piece of paper. Marriage is nothing but a contract. Marriage is binding. The relationship isn¢t real unless we get married. Business partners have to sign contracts. We like contracts because they are fair and unbiased. We treat marriage like a negotiation. Our attitude to significant others is as if they are a business partner. The partner needs to be willing negotiate and cooperate with us. We marry a lawyer. We become a law partner. We negotiate with open enemies.

I have a friend who's 7th house cusp is in Capricorn and even though he's famous, has a hard time finding a steady partner. Good thing is you have Sun and many planets in the 5th house, which can make you really good at flirt. You have to check though all the aspects.

Also, you have Moon and Mars in the 12th house and probably you hide your feelings and sexuality. Partners need to explore you and find out your gifts.[/B]

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Would this apply to me if I have a Capricorn Descendant? I relate to this!

posted May 07, 2020 04:53 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Hi, MineAgain How are you?

I'm a Cap ASC, with Saturn on DSC (2), Saturn return behind me.

Apart from "things get better with time", from my personal experience and what I know of astrology, we (DSC Saturnians) are not allowed to be casual at all in relationships. In fact, the area in the chart where Saturn lies is the one area you can never be casual about: anytime you try to do it, Saturn "strikes", something very serious happens, showing you that, unlike other people, that area is to be approached with maximum Saturnian energy . Saturn guides the way in that area and it will never allow you to be casual about it: Saturn in the 1st - you can't be casual, fleeting in all 1st house matters, basically you have to be a "serious" presence all around, in how you project yourself in the world; Saturn in the 5th - you can't be casual in love, if you are creative, an artist, you have to work very hard as opposed to other people, Saturn in the 8th - you can't be casual in sex, a one night stand for instance can bring you a lot of trouble, "redirecting" you to always be Saturnian in sexual matters; Saturn on MC - you have to work very hard, success never comes if you aren't generally responsible in whatever you bring out there etc.

Your style of dating has to reflect that. Show in your behavior from the beginning that relationships with people are something serious and profound for you. By this I mean do not date guys:

-who don't approach you first and pursue you for a while. You don't have to discuss what you expect in a relationship, this is a turn off; just tell them you need more time to know them better. Period. No other discussions are recommended. Then go out with them as friends (by this I mean platonic romance) for a while and have fun and enjoy knowing each other and building trust. Do not succumb to peer pressure or to the idea that sleeping with a guy as soon as possible, you hook him; on the contrary, it's the other way around. If a guy doesn't want to take his time or he is some kind of rush, he's not for you, never will be.

-who aren't single or who are unavailable or passing by. If you do get involve with a guy on a holiday for instance, a by passer lol, do not expect this to lead to anything more because it won't, not for a Saturnian.

- who don't pursue you themselves, let them do this. I'm focusing on this because I can see from your 5th Scorp stellium you are inclined to be attracted to unavailable types, those who are in a veil of mystery or even reject you, you probably tend to think you "fall" for those and chances are you probably obsess over them for a long time, but don't be fooled, it's not love, it's a lower frequency Plutonian issue: desire to conquer and own, especially the one who rejects us or is somehow unavailable, it's about Pluto and power, not love. Choose your interest among the guys who like you and are warm, nice and caring to you and who take their time to prove themselves worthy to be with you.

The combination of Saturn and Pluto you have is very powerful, but you must cut out its negative side by yourself; in my experience, only after this work with yourself you will experience true love, and this is a good thing, because you are here to experience something above average in love and by blocking you, the universe helps you to self-improve and attain that level so that you can experience it.

Hoping it helps, good luck!

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This advice is so well written! Do you have anything for me? I’ve been single my entire life, I’m 22.
I have Pluto In The 5th tightly conjunct the 6th + Capricorn Descendant + Saturn In The 11th House.

posted May 08, 2020 12:36 PM            

With a Cap DSC you're likely to get a partner who's either much older than you or someone very mature for their age. Any planets in your 7th?

posted May 19, 2020 07:20 PM            

They find it hard to find fulfillment in a relationship. Always searching for something better. And if they are in a relationship, they pick out all the flaws in their partner. They’re likely to get into superficial relationships rather than relationships based on love.